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Old 07-25-2011, 08:07 PM   #1
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Why Isn't This Norway Bomber a Terrorist?

It's wild to see how many news sites have no mention of the word terrorist when talking about this Norway guy.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...ect/?hpt=hp_t2

That one even discusses if 'Christian fundamentalist' is the appropriate label and doesn't even mention the word terrorist in the entire article! I guess the word's true meaning as a 'Arab or Muslim' is finally showing through.
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:24 PM   #2
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He's the Norwegian equivalent of Timothy McVeigh.

I could be wrong, but I don't recall the word terrorist being associated all that often with McVeigh either.

The two of them were really nothing more than delusional mass murderers.

Back in the day, the IRA and the Baader Meinhof Gang were commonly referred to as terrorists however.
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Are you serious? every article I see says "terror" or "terrorist" - http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...1276&bih= 679

and

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...1276 &bih=679
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:33 PM   #6
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Are you serious? every article I see says "terror" or "terrorist" - http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...1276&bih= 679

and

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...1276 &bih=679
you are searching for norway terrorist there are bound to be some out there, but for example cnn has none that i saw that call him a terrorist
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Old 07-25-2011, 10:43 PM   #7
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you are searching for norway terrorist there are bound to be some out there, but for example cnn has none that i saw that call him a terrorist
even these? http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query... te&intl=true

and these? http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query...ue&sortBy=date

I haven't seen any news station that hasn't labeled him a terrorist.
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even these? http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query... te&intl=true

and these? http://edition.cnn.com/search/?query...ue&sortBy=date

I haven't seen any news station that hasn't labeled him a terrorist.
I don't see "terrorist"....I see terrorism, terror but no mainstream news media outlet labeling the terrorist as a "terrorist".
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I'd think FOX is pretty mainstream: http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/loca...in-la-20110725

Anyway yeah, I'm not finding a lot that say the word "Terrorist" specifically. But when they call it "terror" and "terrorism" it is understood that the guy behind it is a terrorist.
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Just a thought: If you white europeans don't like immigrants, stop fucking bombing and forcing the embargos on their home countries! Because they are clearly not coming to Oslo, Stockholm and London for the weather. BTW expect a wave of immigrants from Lybia soon.
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He's not a terrorist. He's a killer. When you kill citizens of your own country your not a terrorist, your a killer. He's a mass murder.

Here's a link to the article on Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-mass-killer-wants-time-court-tell-why-014056029.html


A terrorist is someone from another country that is looking to spread fear in another country.

This guy was just a fucking idiot.
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:08 AM   #13
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He's not a terrorist. He's a killer. When you kill citizens of your own country your not a terrorist, your a killer. He's a mass murder.

Here's a link to the article on Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-mass-killer-wants-time-court-tell-why-014056029.html


A terrorist is someone from another country that is looking to spread fear in another country.

This guy was just a fucking idiot.
Why bother man. Why bother with perfect punctuation when YOU'RE going to misuse the word your.

That's an interesting definition of the word, did you make it up?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:57 AM   #14
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He's not a terrorist. He's a killer. When you kill citizens of your own country your not a terrorist, your a killer. He's a mass murder.

Here's a link to the article on Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-mass-killer-wants-time-court-tell-why-014056029.html


A terrorist is someone from another country that is looking to spread fear in another country.

This guy was just a fucking idiot.

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He's not a terrorist. He's a killer. When you kill citizens of your own country your not a terrorist, your a killer. He's a mass murder.

Here's a link to the article on Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-mass-killer-wants-time-court-tell-why-014056029.html


A terrorist is someone from another country that is looking to spread fear in another country.

This guy was just a fucking idiot.

baaa, he's white Christian, this is the only reason he is "not" a terrorist

take a closer look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_July_...ondon_bombings

"On the morning of Thursday, 7 July 2005, four Islamic homegrown terrorists detonated four bombs, three in quick succession aboard London Underground trains across the city and, later, a fourth on a double-decker bus in Tavistock Square".

They were Birts, who killed other Brits...




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It's wild to see how many news sites have no mention of the word terrorist when talking about this Norway guy.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/0...ect/?hpt=hp_t2

That one even discusses if 'Christian fundamentalist' is the appropriate label and doesn't even mention the word terrorist in the entire article! I guess the word's true meaning as a 'Arab or Muslim' is finally showing through.
What do you think the word terrorist means?
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A terrorist is someone from another country that is looking to spread fear in another country.
Which dictionary is that definition in?

Here is what mine says:


"noun
a person who uses terrorism in the pursuit of political aims."

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This guy was just a fucking idiot.
He probably could differentiate your and you're though.

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This is a real Terrorist

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white, norwey guy, he must be mad, not terrorist
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Couse he is white... and he is from western country that's why...
He would be terrorist if he would be black,brown or from some eastern country,simple
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I think a lot of people have to look up the definition of the word terrorist.


he is not a terrorist because he is from the same country ... lol
I mean seriously...
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Just a thought: If you white europeans don't like immigrants, stop fucking bombing and forcing the embargos on their home countries! Because they are clearly not coming to Oslo, Stockholm and London for the weather. BTW expect a wave of immigrants from Lybia soon.
Oh yes because all wars in the world are caused by Europe.
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The guy is a terrorist, whites just don't like that label 'cause it associates them with ethnics.

@ Rochard, ever heard of domestic terrorism?
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He is insane, that's all
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They call him a terrorist all the time on BBC and CNN... and they refer to the events as the Norway Terror Attacks.
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Was he wearing his bed sheets when captured?? Most likely not. Then he is Not a terrorist
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The guy is a terrorist, whites just don't like that label 'cause it associates them with ethnics.
Members of the IRA or ETA are white, they're always called terrorists.

This guy is less often called "terrorist" because he's not part of an organization.

Terrorism refers to acts of terror committed by states or non-government groups.

Someone who acts alone is deranged and is considered a lunatic, a mass murderer.
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He's not a terrorist. He's a killer. When you kill citizens of your own country your not a terrorist, your a killer. He's a mass murder.

Here's a link to the article on Yahoo News:

http://news.yahoo.com/norway-mass-killer-wants-time-court-tell-why-014056029.html


A terrorist is someone from another country that is looking to spread fear in another country.

This guy was just a fucking idiot.
I don't know where you got your definition of "terrorist," but you are incorrect. Even if you were correct, I would disagree with you.

The man slaughtered dozens of people for a "political" cause, which will continue to terrorize the citizens of Norway as they come to grips with what happened. He is most certainly a terrorist, as was Timothy McVeigh, the ol' Unabomber should probably be considered a terrorist as well. These men caused continued terror. How is that not a terrorist?

The definition of terrorist: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

I checked multiple dictionaries.
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Whew, the right is spinning their asses off trying to hide the facts that this is one of their spawn.
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Oh yes because all wars in the world are caused by Europe.
I know that it's usually US who likes to start the wars but most of EU governments support them, don't they? If you guys have said no to another invasion or military operation that US is dragging you into the ammount of immigrants in your country could be significantly lower. I'm just saying that it's bombings and poverty that makes them seek for a better life, and actions of most of European countries is in part what makes their life miserable in their home countries and that's why they are in your countries getting welfare. If you don't like immigrants you should protest against wars and economic sanctions against already poor countries not against muslims or some ethnic groups.
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I know that it's usually US who likes to start the wars but most of EU governments support them, don't they? If you guys have said no to another invasion or military operation that US is dragging you into the ammount of immigrants in your country could be significantly lower. I'm just saying that it's bombings and poverty that makes them seek for a better life, and actions of most of European countries is in part what makes their life miserable in their home countries and that's why they are in your countries getting welfare. If you don't like immigrants you should protest against wars and economic sanctions against already poor countries not against muslims or some ethnic groups.
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Members of the IRA or ETA are white, they're always called terrorists.

This guy is less often called "terrorist" because he's not part of an organization.

Terrorism refers to acts of terror committed by states or non-government groups.

Someone who acts alone is deranged and is considered a lunatic, a mass murderer.
+1 If it was about racism, then the IRA and ETA would not be called terrorists. Some people are ALWAYS looking to find some kind of racism. They spend all their time looking for it, until they are seeing it everywhere, simply because they want to.


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I don't know where you got your definition of "terrorist," but you are incorrect. Even if you were correct, I would disagree with you.

The man slaughtered dozens of people for a "political" cause, which will continue to terrorize the citizens of Norway as they come to grips with what happened. He is most certainly a terrorist, as was Timothy McVeigh, the ol' Unabomber should probably be considered a terrorist as well. These men caused continued terror. How is that not a terrorist?

The definition of terrorist: the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercion

I checked multiple dictionaries.
There is no consensus on the definition of terrorist, but it usually includes being part of an organization. A mentally ill individual acting alone can traumatize entire populations he still more readily considered a mass murderer.

The often used Hoffman definition.

- ineluctably political in aims and motives
- violent ? or, equally important, threatens violence
- designed to have far-reaching psychological repercussions beyond the immediate victim or target
- conducted by an organization with an identifiable chain of command or conspiratorial cell structure.


Or from wikipedia :

"Although terrorism originally referred acts committed by a government, currently it usually refers to the killing of innocent people by a non-government group in such a way as to create a media spectacle."

The Hoffman definition was created to distinguish terrorism from other forms of crime.
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Members of the IRA or ETA are white, they're always called terrorists.

This guy is less often called "terrorist" because he's not part of an organization.

Terrorism refers to acts of terror committed by states or non-government groups.

Someone who acts alone is deranged and is considered a lunatic, a mass murderer.
He was part of the Christian organization...
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he 100% IS a terrorist. The reason why they dont call him one is because he is blonde haired and blue eyed.

the zionist run media would NEVER call a blonde hair, blue eyed guy a terrorist. that would go against the picture they try to paint in the west of what they want a terrorist to "look like" (muslims).

they do this on purpose, this way the populace is not confused and can be pro war.

before they even knew who it was, and even when they had reports of it being a white guy, they were displaying all the muslim groups trying to pre blanket the situation on muslims.

as Noam Chomski put it: Manufacturing Consent.

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he 100% IS a terrorist. The reason why they dont call him one is because he is blonde haired and blue eyed.

the zionist run media would NEVER call a blonde hair, blue eyed guy a terrorist. that would go against the picture they try to paint in the west of what they want a terrorist to "look like" (muslims).

they do this on purpose, this way the populace is not confused and can be pro war.

before they even knew who it was, and even when they had reports of it being a white guy, they were displaying all the muslim groups trying to pre blanket the situation on muslims.

as Noam Chomski put it: Manufacturing Consent.
There were plenty of IRA members that were "blonde hair, blue eyed" guys. They were called terrorists


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There were plenty of IRA members that were "blonde hair, blue eyed" guys. They were called terrorists


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the major IRA peace treaty was signed in 1998. the full shift of media policy of the west happened after 9/11.

before hand the target was more on leaders rather than the population of muslims. ie Sadaam Hussein and Gaddhafi. And we see where that leads us today.

There would be no way that the american population would have allowed the USA government to help out Kuwait if this policy shift had already happened.
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Just a thought: If you white europeans don't like immigrants, stop fucking bombing and forcing the embargos on their home countries! Because they are clearly not coming to Oslo, Stockholm and London for the weather. BTW expect a wave of immigrants from Lybia soon.
exactly .... shake the bee nest and they will fly into your home ... don`t be pissed after!
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There were plenty of IRA members that were "blonde hair, blue eyed" guys. They were called terrorists


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Yes and at one time the Mujahideen were looked at as freedom fighters and not terrorists.

Bonzo instead of doing your usual beating around the bush without actually saying anything, why don't you tell us why you think he isn't a terrorist??
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Members of the IRA or ETA are white, they're always called terrorists.

This guy is less often called "terrorist" because he's not part of an organization.

Terrorism refers to acts of terror committed by states or non-government groups.

Someone who acts alone is deranged and is considered a lunatic, a mass murderer.
heard something of an affiliation with a 'knights templar'? thought it was batshit crazy talk, but it seemed the groups interests were against european multiculturism
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He's a Terrorist. Anyone who says he's not is most likely due to him being white and christian. Not brown and muslim.
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Yes and at one time the Mujahideen were looked at as freedom fighters and not terrorists.

Bonzo instead of doing your usual beating around the bush without actually saying anything, why don't you tell us why you think he isn't a terrorist??
I was saying it exactly... I think the guy is totally a terrorist. He has a political/social agenda and he is using violence against innocent people to push it. That makes him a terrorist.



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duh

cuz hes to stupid. there was a terror agenda but his target did not fit that agenda
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Does it matter what the label says? He did wrong killing lots of people! Call him what you want, call the others what you want. It never will change that they are both wrong
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Does it matter what the label says? He did wrong killing lots of people! Call him what you want, call the others what you want. It never will change that they are both wrong
Yes it does matter, use of language is the most powerful weapon on the planet. Ever heard of something called propaganda?
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which label gets more clicks/sell more papers-

"terrorist" or "psycho mass murderer killing spree"?
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Yes it does matter, use of language is the most powerful weapon on the planet. Ever heard of something called propaganda?
Old cliche, but some people can't see the forest from the trees. Propaganda has swayed Countries to War, changed public perception from one extreme to another. Everyone "knows" about it, but people are susceptible to it in one form or another.
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