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mchacal · 04-09-2011, 08:37 PM

I bough a couple of supposedly GF content packages and I got a load of casting videos. It's a pain in the ass having to edit the damn videos to cut off all the stupid shit talking.

Here are some points all you content producers should look at before trying to sell your content as GF style.

- No casting, no interviews. Damn GF stands for girlfriend. Do you ask your girlfriend's name, where does she comes from and what she does in life before fucking her??

- No studios but real bedrooms. Real life girls don't have light spots, tripods and other photographic material on their bedrooms so at least hide that shit to the camera. If you really have to use a studio at least make it look like a bedroom, put posters on the walls. etc. It's not that hard, buy gossip magazine and put few pages on the walls and maybe a teddy bear on the bed to add some perversion to the scenes

- Use different male performers for each girl. Nobody is going to believe the scenes are real when all the girls are getting fucked by the same guy.

- No third person shooting the scenes only POV or static camera. When was the last time you had somebody filming you having sex with your girlfriend??

- Always change the background. 30 different models shot in the same bedroom doesn't look amateur.

- Shoot more self-shot pictures and webcam videos and if possible ask the models to do them at home (few regulars clothed pictures fooling around, outdoors etc to make it look like real private pictures would be a+)

I shot few girls and I consider myself a newbie at it but I don't need much experience just a little common sense to make the difference between real GF content and recycled porn

NaughtyRob · 04-09-2011, 09:09 PM

I hear you man. I try hard to do different locations and its tough. EXgf content has a very low rate of return on profit. Its very hard and actually damn near impossible to hire a different guy for each girl. That being said. Buy my new package! lol

johnnyloadproductions · 04-09-2011, 09:17 PM

Here's the reason ex-gf content return is so low.

The whole intent of exgirlfriend content, imho, is the whole amateur and potential underage aspect of it i.e. sexting.
If anyone wants to jerk it to highschool girls with their tops of they can just go to 4chan and hang out for not even 5 minutes before a thread makes itself apparent with girls that are most likely in highschool and whatever else that is on there.

Content has got to be hot and it has to be in vast quantity. I bought my content from NaughtyRob and I'll vouch that he's legitimate. i dont' like doing business deals without reference and good reputation though.
I licensed some out so I could post some of it in my messageboard legally. It's just a tough spin up.

I know some website that intially ran illegal videos that showed girls stripping such as stickam vids but then migrated away when there traffic exploded. All that in order to kickstart things, that's something I'm not comfortable with. Plus girlfriends seems to be over saturated but I really can't back that claim up.
I've been around the block and know where to get stuff for free. The key of course is to have a specific niche or within a given range and to have a lot of scenes put together that way it's worth the persons' money as opposed to scouting for everything over a period of hours.

Sounds like you got the short end of the stick a little bit, good luck to you and best wishes on your next shoots!

mchacal · 04-09-2011, 09:39 PM

I'm aware it's hard to compete against all the amateur submitted content out there but that shit is selling like hot cakes. There are a lot of legal GF style paysites so there is a demand for this. I can't believe it's so hard to get this done properly. I shot some descent GF style content myself and there is always the possibility of getting the girls to shoot the content themselves instead of having to shoot it studio. I know it's not as fun as getting some pussy and making money of it but this is what we need.

I don't think the GF fashion it's going anywhere. People said the same think about reality shows and 10 years later the whole TV experience is nothing but reality shows.

mchacal · 04-09-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

I hear you man. I try hard to do different locations and its tough. EXgf content has a very low rate of return on profit. Its very hard and actually damn near impossible to hire a different guy for each girl. That being said. Buy my new package! lol

You gave me some really nice stuff bro. Don't worry I'll be buying again very soon

johnnyloadproductions · 04-09-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mchacal

I'm aware it's hard to compete against all the amateur submitted content out there but that shit is selling like hot cakes. There are a lot of legal GF style paysites so there is a demand for this. I can't believe it's so hard to get this done properly. I shot some descent GF style content myself and there is always the possibility of getting the girls to shoot the content themselves instead of having to shoot it studio. I know it's not as fun as getting some pussy and making money of it but this is what we need.

I don't think the GF fashion it's going anywhere. People said the same think about reality shows and 10 years later the whole TV experience is nothing but reality shows.

You're probably right, I asked naughtyrob when purchasing this stuff on how he got the content. It was what I expected, he told me that he got most of it by shooting it himself and then set up some deals with girls through distance getting selfshot content. You can always do a campaign across the United States for girlfriend content in the big cities. I miss the model chase but right now can't afford to blow through lots of money on something I'm not so sure on. I should come up with some new niche with colleges or something.

SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN · 04-10-2011, 01:19 AM

GF content is dumb

mchacal · 04-10-2011, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SDA CASH

GF content is dumb

There are a lot of dumb people out there ready to pay

Paul Markham · 04-10-2011, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mchacal

I bough a couple of supposedly GF content packages and I got a load of casting videos. It's a pain in the ass having to edit the damn videos to cut off all the stupid shit talking.

Here are some points all you content producers should look at before trying to sell your content as GF style.

- No casting, no interviews. Damn GF stands for girlfriend. Do you ask your girlfriend's name, where does she comes from and what she does in life before fucking her??

- No studios but real bedrooms. Real life girls don't have light spots, tripods and other photographic material on their bedrooms so at least hide that shit to the camera. If you really have to use a studio at least make it look like a bedroom, put posters on the walls. etc. It's not that hard, buy gossip magazine and put few pages on the walls and maybe a teddy bear on the bed to add some perversion to the scenes

- Use different male performers for each girl. Nobody is going to believe the scenes are real when all the girls are getting fucked by the same guy.

- No third person shooting the scenes only POV or static camera. When was the last time you had somebody filming you having sex with your girlfriend??

- Always change the background. 30 different models shot in the same bedroom doesn't look amateur.

- Shoot more self-shot pictures and webcam videos and if possible ask the models to do them at home (few regulars clothed pictures fooling around, outdoors etc to make it look like real private pictures would be a+)

I shot few girls and I consider myself a newbie at it but I don't need much experience just a little common sense to make the difference between real GF content and recycled porn

And what will you pay for this content?

I can turn the content out exactly like you ask for, but what will you pay me?

Here's why you get bad content.

You pay bad prices.

We shot girls on a casting and sold the content to magazines and churned the stuff out in bucket loads. One good casting in Prague would bring 20 girls, 10 brought enough IDs to make shooting them legal. The sets were often shot on print film because the magazines wanted crappy prints, they eventually moved to digital.

We shot 20 ish frames. Each printed photo was worth $40 per magazine and it was possible to sell it to UK and US mags, so $80 per photo used, They used 3-4 and often made a girl a "GF of the Month" which could mean $500.

So shooting 10 girls X $240 a set was worth $2400 for a single days work. And we still sell the content via the stores.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/content.php?attribute=w

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...hp?attribute=w

Now I don't give a care whether you think it's right or not. It made us more money than shooting custom content for websites and took 5 minutes.

If you want decent GF content here's what you need to do. Pay enough so people can produce it. Nothing you list is hard to achieve, just not profitable. If it's selling like hot cakes and you want legal content that will sell like hot cakes, get your wallet out and show me the money.

And yes a 3rd person can shoot a couple, think about and ask a few people if they've ever had a 3some.

Or go shoot it yourself.

Paul Markham · 04-10-2011, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions

Here's the reason ex-gf content return is so low.

Says it all really.

All these people screaming it sells like hot cakes, makes tons of money and complaining about content because they want it at bargain basement prices. $150 an exclusive scene was the last price I heard.

I didn't shoot my studio style because it lost money.

DWB · 04-10-2011, 05:05 AM

Since most can not get the "Girlfriend" part right, it would be better to just call it "Amateur." And even then, 70% of those selling it don't understand that word either.

Black All Through · 04-10-2011, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Since most can not get the "Girlfriend" part right, it would be better to just call it "Amateur." And even then, 70% of those selling it don't understand that word either.

RedGlamourStudio · 04-10-2011, 06:25 AM

bump topic for right content!

Si · 04-10-2011, 06:52 AM

I agree 100%

Never shoot people in the same fucking room either!

iSpyCams · 04-10-2011, 09:28 AM

I have a paysite I built that's about 80% Naughty Rob GF content and it's been converting 1:120 on SEO traffic all year. Volume is low, or I'd be rich as fuck, but all I can say is that shit obviously converts, whether it passes for "real" exgf content or not.

Jim_Gunn · 04-10-2011, 09:44 AM

The o.p. makes some good points. I put together a collection of Ex-GF photosets with over twenty American girls including amateur, self-shot and mirror pics done in real bedrooms, living rooms, kitchens, bathrooms and normal places that hits most of the marks and I have sold my non-exclusive collection a bunch of times. Even have a couple of clients that buy exclusive sets with some of the cute newbies.

I have enough cute young American girls every month to do a lot more Ex-GF content, but the rates people want to pay are really way too low (even considering I charge more than almost everyone else) to make it a lucrative enough endeavor to pursue compared to shooting high end solo & hardcore content.

CaptainHowdy · 04-10-2011, 09:50 AM

Overall, there are someone's ex-girlfriend :/ ...

PornoMonster · 04-10-2011, 09:58 AM

Yep OP you got sold repackaged content as GF content. Still trying to turn a dime on old stuff. Well even new stuff, gets repackaged to turn a profit.

To the people saying shoot in a different room all the time, unless your going to the girls house, this would cost way to much for the $150 or LESS a set you want to buy this type of content for and be exclusive or semi.

At $150, you need to sell several sets to even break even. Sure you can shoot girls looking for work for cheaper, but everyone else is shooting them also!

icymelon · 04-10-2011, 12:01 PM

true. and I kind of believe the pictures should all be selfshot or mirror

Agent 488 · 04-10-2011, 12:03 PM

send the bitch a camera and tell her to do it herself.

Jim_Gunn · 04-10-2011, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

send the bitch a camera and tell her to do it herself.

Good luck with that plan!

mchacal · 04-10-2011, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

And what will you pay for this content?

I can turn the content out exactly like you ask for, but what will you pay me?

Here's why you get bad content.

You pay bad prices.

We shot girls on a casting and sold the content to magazines and churned the stuff out in bucket loads. One good casting in Prague would bring 20 girls, 10 brought enough IDs to make shooting them legal. The sets were often shot on print film because the magazines wanted crappy prints, they eventually moved to digital.

We shot 20 ish frames. Each printed photo was worth $40 per magazine and it was possible to sell it to UK and US mags, so $80 per photo used, They used 3-4 and often made a girl a "GF of the Month" which could mean $500.

So shooting 10 girls X $240 a set was worth $2400 for a single days work. And we still sell the content via the stores.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/content.php?attribute=w

http://www.bargainbasementcontent.co...hp?attribute=w

Now I don't give a care whether you think it's right or not. It made us more money than shooting custom content for websites and took 5 minutes.

If you want decent GF content here's what you need to do. Pay enough so people can produce it. Nothing you list is hard to achieve, just not profitable. If it's selling like hot cakes and you want legal content that will sell like hot cakes, get your wallet out and show me the money.

And yes a 3rd person can shoot a couple, think about and ask a few people if they've ever had a 3some.

Or go shoot it yourself.

Sorry Paul but I would never ever pay 240$ per set when I could pay some hot latina a 100$ for a load of exclusive videos and pictures done by herself at home.

To me the ideal GF set it's a bunch of regular personal pictures showing absolutely no nudity and few self/mirror naked shots. Whoever pays 240$ for this most be fucking crazy

I think the best is getting the models to shoot the content themselves or I could shoot it myself and make it look GF style. Actually that's what I do but to keep with daily updates for my members I need huge amounts of content and I can't shoot all that content alone so I have to buy from producers and amateur girls.

That being said I believe you still can make your 240$ per set. Offer your models some extra $$ for her regular pictures. I know girls with thousands of pictures in their Facebook profiles. As I said before no nudity needed, just regular pictures. Then make a good self-shot/mirror set with full nudity maybe some solo action and voila!! you have loads of cheap real GF style content. Sell as many non exclusive licenses at 50$ and you'll be making way more than 240$

Here is some of my exclusive content. Enjoy!

mchacal · 04-10-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

send the bitch a camera and tell her to do it herself.

No need to. smart-phone pictures and videos are just perfect.

JustDaveXxx · 04-10-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mchacal

I bough a couple of supposedly GF content packages and I got a load of casting videos. It's a pain in the ass having to edit the damn videos to cut off all the stupid shit talking.

You could have saved your time and money if you actually looked at the content before buying it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mchacal

Here are some points all you content producers should look at before trying to sell your content as GF style.

- No casting, no interviews. Damn GF stands for girlfriend. Do you ask your girlfriend's name, where does she comes from and what she does in life before fucking her??

- No studios but real bedrooms. Real life girls don't have light spots, tripods and other photographic material on their bedrooms so at least hide that shit to the camera. If you really have to use a studio at least make it look like a bedroom, put posters on the walls. etc. It's not that hard, buy gossip magazine and put few pages on the walls and maybe a teddy bear on the bed to add some perversion to the scenes

- Use different male performers for each girl. Nobody is going to believe the scenes are real when all the girls are getting fucked by the same guy.

- No third person shooting the scenes only POV or static camera. When was the last time you had somebody filming you having sex with your girlfriend??

- Always change the background. 30 different models shot in the same bedroom doesn't look amateur.

- Shoot more self-shot pictures and webcam videos and if possible ask the models to do them at home (few regulars clothed pictures fooling around, outdoors etc to make it look like real private pictures would be a+)

I shot few girls and I consider myself a newbie at it but I don't need much experience just a little common sense to make the difference between real GF content and recycled porn

Nice check list for a custom content shooter. If you are willing to pay, I bet Jim Gunn can make that check list happen. But if you are looking for deals and bargains with recycled package deals, I recommend that you check each and every scene before you buy.

Good luck with what ever you choose to do.

Si · 04-10-2011, 04:02 PM

Just popping this in here for you,

Should have more of Kitty soon, will ICQ you when it is ready

NaughtyRob · 04-10-2011, 04:16 PM

Glad its working out buddy. I am sure that Package 9 you just bought will keep you rollin'.

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

I have a paysite I built that's about 80% Naughty Rob GF content and it's been converting 1:120 on SEO traffic all year. Volume is low, or I'd be rich as fuck, but all I can say is that shit obviously converts, whether it passes for "real" exgf content or not.

Jim_Gunn · 04-10-2011, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mchacal

...As I said before no nudity needed, just regular pictures. Then make a good self-shot/mirror set with full nudity maybe some solo action and voila!! you have loads of cheap real GF style content. Sell as many non exclusive licenses at 50$ and you'll be making way more than 240$

mchacal, if you have that much need for Ex-GF style content and are willing to pay $50 per set yourself for non-nude/nude non-exclusive amateur, self-shot & mirror pics sets you can preview every image of my collection on the second link below and/or get non-exclusive updates for the same rate when I shoot new models.

Paul Markham · 04-10-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster

Yep OP you got sold repackaged content as GF content. Still trying to turn a dime on old stuff. Well even new stuff, gets repackaged to turn a profit.

To the people saying shoot in a different room all the time, unless your going to the girls house, this would cost way to much for the $150 or LESS a set you want to buy this type of content for and be exclusive or semi.

At $150, you need to sell several sets to even break even. Sure you can shoot girls looking for work for cheaper, but everyone else is shooting them also!

That says it all.

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Originally Posted by mchacal

Sorry Paul but I would never ever pay 240$ per set when I could pay some hot latina a 100$ for a load of exclusive videos and pictures done by herself at home.

Then go troll FB, because professionals have much richer markets to shoot for.

You just condemned yourself in 1 sentence.

Can anyone imagine a sponsor moaning about the quality of his traffic if he were paying out crap money for it?

If we shoot this content we earn around $500 a set, by not selling it exclusive to you.

Readers Girlfriends/wives content

If we shoot this content we earn $3,000 a set. Without selling it exclusive.

Solo Teens

And you're moaning I don't shoot what you want for $100 a set.

Now go tell affiliates to send you traffic for 10% rev share for 1 month only.

Sponsors complaining good shooters won't shoot content that will lose them money, because they can't afford to pay the price.

Paul Markham · 04-11-2011, 12:10 AM

To be fair to mchacal his attitude towards content is fairly general, in all niches, on the Internet.

Very very few sponsors ever would pay enough to get good content. They always had the attitude that if you can get a girl naked and point a camera you could produce porn. Therefore not worth paying much for it.

The list of people who thought $300 was fine for an exclusive solo girl set is very long, even today Mutt was saying the price is $500 and Fabian is boasting he pays $2,000 for 3 scenes.

As for Serious Partners and there $2,500 for a 3.5 hour party type orgy. Well that's a joke.

Whether it can be done or not isn't the question for good shooters. It's whether their time is better spent doing something more profitable.

Do I spend time shooting this content exclusive for him.

Or do I earn more selling it non exclusive?

Or do I shoot this content and clean up?

My time is precious, so what should I do. Work for people who pay peanuts or people who pay steaks?

Sponsors want shooters to work for little and affiliates to work for as much as they can pay them.

04-09-2011, 08:37 PM	#1
mchacal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1,069	GF content...not!! I bough a couple of supposedly GF content packages and I got a load of casting videos. It's a pain in the ass having to edit the damn videos to cut off all the stupid shit talking. Here are some points all you content producers should look at before trying to sell your content as GF style. - No casting, no interviews. Damn GF stands for girlfriend. Do you ask your girlfriend's name, where does she comes from and what she does in life before fucking her?? - No studios but real bedrooms. Real life girls don't have light spots, tripods and other photographic material on their bedrooms so at least hide that shit to the camera. If you really have to use a studio at least make it look like a bedroom, put posters on the walls. etc. It's not that hard, buy gossip magazine and put few pages on the walls and maybe a teddy bear on the bed to add some perversion to the scenes - Use different male performers for each girl. Nobody is going to believe the scenes are real when all the girls are getting fucked by the same guy. - No third person shooting the scenes only POV or static camera. When was the last time you had somebody filming you having sex with your girlfriend?? - Always change the background. 30 different models shot in the same bedroom doesn't look amateur. - Shoot more self-shot pictures and webcam videos and if possible ask the models to do them at home (few regulars clothed pictures fooling around, outdoors etc to make it look like real private pictures would be a+) I shot few girls and I consider myself a newbie at it but I don't need much experience just a little common sense to make the difference between real GF content and recycled porn __________________ Tech & Gadgets at Great Prices - antonio(at)techtonystore.com \| ICQ: 219116429 \| Skype: tonio514

04-09-2011, 09:09 PM	#2
NaughtyRob Two fresh affiliate progs Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Inside teen pussy Posts: 29,602	I hear you man. I try hard to do different locations and its tough. EXgf content has a very low rate of return on profit. Its very hard and actually damn near impossible to hire a different guy for each girl. That being said. Buy my new package! lol __________________ [email protected] Skype: 17026955414 Vacares Web Hosting - Protect Your Ass with Included Daily Backups

04-09-2011, 09:39 PM	#4
mchacal Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 1,069	I'm aware it's hard to compete against all the amateur submitted content out there but that shit is selling like hot cakes. There are a lot of legal GF style paysites so there is a demand for this. I can't believe it's so hard to get this done properly. I shot some descent GF style content myself and there is always the possibility of getting the girls to shoot the content themselves instead of having to shoot it studio. I know it's not as fun as getting some pussy and making money of it but this is what we need. I don't think the GF fashion it's going anywhere. People said the same think about reality shows and 10 years later the whole TV experience is nothing but reality shows. __________________ Tech & Gadgets at Great Prices - antonio(at)techtonystore.com \| ICQ: 219116429 \| Skype: tonio514

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04-09-2011, 09:17 PM	#3
johnnyloadproductions Account Shutdown Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gone Posts: 3,611	Here's the reason ex-gf content return is so low. The whole intent of exgirlfriend content, imho, is the whole amateur and potential underage aspect of it i.e. sexting. If anyone wants to jerk it to highschool girls with their tops of they can just go to 4chan and hang out for not even 5 minutes before a thread makes itself apparent with girls that are most likely in highschool and whatever else that is on there. Content has got to be hot and it has to be in vast quantity. I bought my content from NaughtyRob and I'll vouch that he's legitimate. i dont' like doing business deals without reference and good reputation though. I licensed some out so I could post some of it in my messageboard legally. It's just a tough spin up. I know some website that intially ran illegal videos that showed girls stripping such as stickam vids but then migrated away when there traffic exploded. All that in order to kickstart things, that's something I'm not comfortable with. Plus girlfriends seems to be over saturated but I really can't back that claim up. I've been around the block and know where to get stuff for free. The key of course is to have a specific niche or within a given range and to have a lot of scenes put together that way it's worth the persons' money as opposed to scouting for everything over a period of hours. Sounds like you got the short end of the stick a little bit, good luck to you and best wishes on your next shoots!

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SDA CASH - Banned for Life AGAIN So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Scottsdale Arizona Posts: 1,100	GF content is dumb

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	Since most can not get the "Girlfriend" part right, it would be better to just call it "Amateur." And even then, 70% of those selling it don't understand that word either.

04-10-2011, 06:52 AM	#14
Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	I agree 100% Never shoot people in the same fucking room either!

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iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	I have a paysite I built that's about 80% Naughty Rob GF content and it's been converting 1:120 on SEO traffic all year. Volume is low, or I'd be rich as fuck, but all I can say is that shit obviously converts, whether it passes for "real" exgf content or not.

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Jim_Gunn Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Where The Teens Are Posts: 5,702	The o.p. makes some good points. I put together a collection of Ex-GF photosets with over twenty American girls including amateur, self-shot and mirror pics done in real bedrooms, living rooms, kitchens, bathrooms and normal places that hits most of the marks and I have sold my non-exclusive collection a bunch of times. Even have a couple of clients that buy exclusive sets with some of the cute newbies. I have enough cute young American girls every month to do a lot more Ex-GF content, but the rates people want to pay are really way too low (even considering I charge more than almost everyone else) to make it a lucrative enough endeavor to pursue compared to shooting high end solo & hardcore content.

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PornoMonster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 2,257	Yep OP you got sold repackaged content as GF content. Still trying to turn a dime on old stuff. Well even new stuff, gets repackaged to turn a profit. To the people saying shoot in a different room all the time, unless your going to the girls house, this would cost way to much for the $150 or LESS a set you want to buy this type of content for and be exclusive or semi. At $150, you need to sell several sets to even break even. Sure you can shoot girls looking for work for cheaper, but everyone else is shooting them also! __________________ $6 a Month 4 Blade Razors, 4 Cartridges, Includes shipping! Domains 4 Sale CashForVideos.com - Pussy.biz - FootPorn.com - SoloMovie.com - CollegeGirlCams.com - AmateurCamGirls.com - PR3 4 Letter Domain

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Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	send the bitch a camera and tell her to do it herself.

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Si Such Fun! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13,900	Just popping this in here for you, Should have more of Kitty soon, will ICQ you when it is ready

04-11-2011, 12:10 AM	#29
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	To be fair to mchacal his attitude towards content is fairly general, in all niches, on the Internet. Very very few sponsors ever would pay enough to get good content. They always had the attitude that if you can get a girl naked and point a camera you could produce porn. Therefore not worth paying much for it. The list of people who thought $300 was fine for an exclusive solo girl set is very long, even today Mutt was saying the price is $500 and Fabian is boasting he pays $2,000 for 3 scenes. As for Serious Partners and there $2,500 for a 3.5 hour party type orgy. Well that's a joke. Whether it can be done or not isn't the question for good shooters. It's whether their time is better spent doing something more profitable. Do I spend time shooting this content exclusive for him. Or do I earn more selling it non exclusive? Or do I shoot this content and clean up? My time is precious, so what should I do. Work for people who pay peanuts or people who pay steaks? Sponsors want shooters to work for little and affiliates to work for as much as they can pay them. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70 Last edited by Paul Markham; 04-11-2011 at 12:13 AM..