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  • alias
    aliasx
    • Apr 2001
    • 19010

    #1

    Heads up: NakedNews shaving clicks with proof [screencaps].

    I decided to promote the naked news site and grabbed a domain for it: http://nakedgirlsnews.com
    I did a test run on some social networks, these convert well under 1:100 on average.

    Since for blogs I work with organic traffic I always test heavily at first.

    Uniques kept dropping, screencaps:







    ICQ with Bryan:

    aliasx ‎(12:28 PM):
    Hi I was wondering if you could offer my any tips on promoting naked news.
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:25 PM):
    sorry for the delay
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:26 PM):
    Can you tell me a little about your traffic and I can helo
    help
    aliasx ‎(3:28 PM):
    no problem, I kind of figured most of it out
    only one thing though man
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:29 PM):
    what
    aliasx ‎(3:29 PM):
    im seeing stats rescind
    like say it will be 22 hits
    then go back to 20 or 21
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:29 PM):
    sorry? do you have an account?
    aliasx ‎(3:29 PM):
    aliasx
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:30 PM):
    should be a 5 digit number
    aliasx ‎(3:30 PM):
    it has happened at least 3 times since yest
    sec
    for naked news dude?
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:30 PM):
    yes
    aliasx ‎(3:30 PM):
    Hello Niall Jones,

    Your account request with NakedNewsAnchors has been approved.

    Here's your account information:

    Username: aliasx
    Password:
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:30 PM):
    sec
    aliasx ‎(3:31 PM):
    normally when stats do this it is because the customer has moved from potential to buying customer
    and therefore changes databases
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:32 PM):
    lemme see whats up
    give me a few

    aliasx ‎(3:32 PM):
    k man, thanks
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:32 PM):
    np
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:46 PM):
    you there?
    aliasx ‎(3:46 PM):
    sure
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:46 PM):
    was this yesterday you seen this?
    aliasx ‎(3:46 PM):
    and today like an hour ago too
    aliasx ‎(3:47 PM):
    maybe 1.5 hours now
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:47 PM):
    so both today and yesterday?
    aliasx ‎(3:47 PM):
    yes sir
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:47 PM):
    I am having a tech check so want to make sure
    aliasx ‎(3:47 PM):
    thought maybe i wasnt approved or noone to process signs
    err approve manually just figured id hit u up
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:47 PM):
    and it was only 1 unigw at a time?
    aliasx ‎(3:48 PM):
    i know its low hits but it is very targetted
    yeah
    only 1
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:48 PM):
    thanks man I want to make sure its all good,

    nah man I agree trust me I want to make sure you dont think anything fishy is goin on
    aliasx ‎(3:48 PM):
    ok cool
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:49 PM):
    once I find out I will let you know
    aliasx ‎(3:49 PM):
    ok thanks
    Platinum Bryan ‎(3:50 PM):
    np
    aliasx ‎(4:51 PM):
    yo dude did it again
    got a screen cap too with time.. .
    Platinum Bryan ‎(4:51 PM):
    jut now?
    aliasx ‎(4:51 PM):
    yeah
    Platinum Bryan ‎(4:51 PM):
    ok cool
    email it to me
    Platinum Bryan ‎(4:52 PM):
    [email protected]
    aliasx ‎(4:52 PM):
    k my wm is gonna send it to me ill fwd
    Platinum Bryan ‎(6:11 PM):
    you there?
    our techs fixed it,
    Platinum Bryan ‎(6:12 PM):
    there was a bug in the backend when it came to recording ips, it wont happen again
    thanks for pointing it out to us
    aliasx ‎(6:15 PM):
    ok man
    thx
    aliasx ‎(6:27 PM):
    Yeah so, I know you guys are shaving. gonna just go post this on gfy and give away the domain
    have a nice day
    Platinum Bryan ‎(6:28 PM):
    We are not saving dude
    shaving dude
    it was a bug in the system, there were no sales
    tell me what we have to gain from shaving
    Platinum Bryan ‎(6:29 PM):
    you send 20 uniques and we are shaving?
    prove to me we are shaving
    Platinum Bryan ‎(6:30 PM):
    anyhow do what you will I will just post the stats to prove we are not
    aliasx ‎(6:57 PM):
    what stats? I have screen caps of your shit lowering clicks
    20 hits or 2000 why would i not test first
    aliasx ‎(6:58 PM):
    free signup to 20 recur is not a hard sell
    Last edited by alias; 07-13-2010, 02:32 PM. Reason: removed password
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  • alias
    aliasx
    • Apr 2001
    • 19010

    #2
    Traffic comes from reddit and other social networks. Flame away, this is simply a heads up.
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    • MoreMagic
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2006
      • 2851

      #3
      Where is the shaving part?

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      • pradaboy
        sell me your banners
        • Dec 2003
        • 12931

        #4
        Rogue software lol
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        • MaDalton
          I am Amazing Content!
          • Feb 2004
          • 39865

          #5
          too bad "see sig" if forbidden now :-/
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          • kristin
            GOO!
            • Sep 2002
            • 9768

            #6
            Platinum Bucks IS NOT Naked News.

            I'd get this thread changed asap - it's Guerilla Traffic.

            You are bashing PB while Bryan no longer works there. I don't wanna see you get banned over a non-changed ICQ handle.
            Last edited by kristin; 07-13-2010, 02:44 PM.
            Vacares rules.

            "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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            • suesheboy
              Confirmed User
              • Nov 2002
              • 5211

              #7
              They didn't pay me last time they were "in business".

              Had sales, they dropped program with webmasters, went unpaid, sent some followups - no response.

              My last email to George sent 6/28/10 went unanswered.

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              • alias
                aliasx
                • Apr 2001
                • 19010

                #8
                Originally posted by MoreMagic
                Where is the shaving part?
                I convert like gangbusters, that isn't even the issue. I know it's fuck all for traffic but the shit was mad targeted. I am not saying any sales are missing, I don't care about that.
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                • GrouchyAdmin
                  Now choke yourself!
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 12085

                  #9
                  OH MY GOD MY TWO CLICKTHROUGHS ARE GONE

                  Also, considering one has photoshop, one doesn't, and the battery's entirely dead within an hour's time.. I'm gonna call bullshit on this.

                  Also: Update your antivirus/antispyware, doofus.

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                  • erooup
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 512

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MoreMagic
                    Where is the shaving part?
                    Where they move the client from a free trial, to a member, but forget to give him credit him for the sale

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                    • Barefootsies
                      Choice is an Illusion
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 42635

                      #11
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                      Enough Said.

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                      • alias
                        aliasx
                        • Apr 2001
                        • 19010

                        #12
                        Originally posted by GrouchyAdmin
                        OH MY GOD MY TWO CLICKTHROUGHS ARE GONE

                        Also, considering one has photoshop, one doesn't, and the battery's entirely dead within an hour's time.. I'm gonna call bullshit on this.

                        Also: Update your antivirus/antispyware, doofus.
                        Not my pc, I don't try to tell my girl how to run her operation. She is hot.
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                        • Varius
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 6890

                          #13
                          This is what it sounds like is happening to me:

                          - They show hits live, but don't check for uniques live (for load issues)
                          - Cronjob runs and reduces hits from duplicate IPs after the fact

                          They wouldn't be the first program who does it this way; despite the fact it's a really inefficient method. They probably took the lazy route, figured no one would really ever notice...

                          The alternative is, they are shaving off clicks as you suspect, to boast better ratios. They just again, lazily, didn't even do that right, by doing it to people with no sales showing and by updating it after the fact, instead of on receiving the click.
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                          • kristin
                            GOO!
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 9768

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Varius
                            This is what it sounds like is happening to me:

                            - They show hits live, but don't check for uniques live (for load issues)
                            - Cronjob runs and reduces hits from duplicate IPs after the fact

                            They wouldn't be the first program who does it this way; despite the fact it's a really inefficient method. They probably took the lazy route, figured no one would really ever notice...

                            The alternative is, they are shaving off clicks as you suspect, to boast better ratios. They just again, lazily, didn't even do that right, by doing it to people with no sales showing and by updating it after the fact, instead of on receiving the click.
                            They'd be better off reporting raws then and then have the cron run a few times a day and update the uniques. At least it wouldn't look like there are disappearing clicks, they would just be delayed in reporting Uniques only.
                            Vacares rules.

                            "Usually only fat guys have the kind of knowledge and ability that Kristin has."

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                            • alias
                              aliasx
                              • Apr 2001
                              • 19010

                              #15
                              Good point Varius

                              I don't ever do these type of threads, in reality I guess it just pissed me off.

                              As my buddy said when I mentioned it before I even posted this: next.
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                              • Varius
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 6890

                                #16
                                Originally posted by kristin
                                They'd be better off reporting raws then and then have the cron run a few times a day and update the uniques. At least it wouldn't look like there are disappearing clicks, they would just be delayed in reporting Uniques only.
                                Yeah there are multiple ways to go about it that are much more efficient.

                                Most companies in adult are run by non-tech people though, and while things "work fine" to them, that doesn't mean things "work optimally". Aside from a rare few people, if they are not (or not able) to push their tech guys to constantly improve their work and find better ways to do things - the majority will never do it on their own.
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                                • KillerK
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2008
                                  • 3406

                                  #17
                                  If that's how they shave clicks they are idiots.

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                                  • lazycash
                                    Troll Patrol
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 15214

                                    #18
                                    Platinum Bryan ‎(6:12 PM):
                                    there was a bug in the backend when it came to recording ips, it wont happen again
                                    thanks for pointing it out to us
                                    aliasx ‎(6:15 PM):
                                    ok man
                                    thx
                                    aliasx ‎(6:27 PM):
                                    Yeah so, I know you guys are shaving. gonna just go post this on gfy and give away the domain
                                    have a nice day


                                    Lol, so he offered a reasonable explanation and you say "ok", then proceed to accuse them of shaving.
                                    "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                    Its crazy..."

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                                    • suesheboy
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Nov 2002
                                      • 5211

                                      #19
                                      Notice no word from naked News = damage control planing.

                                      Last naked News thread he was posting very often and don't tell me they don't have alerts set up for their name and are checking the biggest board in adult at least once an hour.

                                      I notice who else is absent from this thread too.

                                      For all you speculators, Never give the "defendant" potential alibis in the future.
                                      Last edited by suesheboy; 07-13-2010, 03:45 PM.
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                                      • mgtarheels
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                                        • Mar 2010
                                        • 1317

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by lazycash
                                        Platinum Bryan ‎(6:12 PM):
                                        there was a bug in the backend when it came to recording ips, it wont happen again
                                        thanks for pointing it out to us
                                        aliasx ‎(6:15 PM):
                                        ok man
                                        thx
                                        aliasx ‎(6:27 PM):
                                        Yeah so, I know you guys are shaving. gonna just go post this on gfy and give away the domain
                                        have a nice day


                                        Lol, so he offered a reasonable explanation and you say "ok", then proceed to accuse them of shaving.
                                        That's one of the most common excuses used..

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                                        • alias
                                          aliasx
                                          • Apr 2001
                                          • 19010

                                          #21
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                                          • GTS Mark
                                            Vrume Mark
                                            • Jan 2001
                                            • 20912

                                            #22
                                            I'm sure out of those 30 clicks you probably should have made 150-300 sales easily!?

                                            Bryan you scamming son of a bitch!!!

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                                            • alias
                                              aliasx
                                              • Apr 2001
                                              • 19010

                                              #23
                                              I sold my best goat for those clicks.
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                                              • alias
                                                aliasx
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 19010

                                                #24
                                                Who will pay for the organic kashi?

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                                                • 2MuchMark
                                                  Mark of 2Much.net
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 51296

                                                  #25
                                                  Giving them benefit of the doubt, why didn't you ask them how they calculate clicks? Is it by unique IP address? Cookies? Both? If its by unique IP's, when do they expire an IP address and count it again as a new click (or new unique visitor)?

                                                  Maybe it's just me but it seems like this could have been handled differently.

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                                                  • Supz
                                                    Arthur Flegenheimer
                                                    • Jul 2006
                                                    • 11057

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by lazycash
                                                    Platinum Bryan ‎(6:12 PM):
                                                    there was a bug in the backend when it came to recording ips, it wont happen again
                                                    thanks for pointing it out to us
                                                    aliasx ‎(6:15 PM):
                                                    ok man
                                                    thx
                                                    aliasx ‎(6:27 PM):
                                                    Yeah so, I know you guys are shaving. gonna just go post this on gfy and give away the domain
                                                    have a nice day


                                                    Lol, so he offered a reasonable explanation and you say "ok", then proceed to accuse them of shaving.
                                                    Are you kidding. That is the funniest best part of the convo. He also said "thx" right before he said they were shaving. I laughed so hard.

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                                                    • Adam_M
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2006
                                                      • 3800

                                                      #27
                                                      I am sure you know your traffic very well, but really this is a joke right?
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                                                      • alias
                                                        aliasx
                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                        • 19010

                                                        #28
                                                        I guess some of you have never sold crack.. .
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                                                        • woj
                                                          <&(©¿©)&>
                                                          • Jul 2002
                                                          • 47880

                                                          #29
                                                          it's not uncommon for there to be screw ups with the hits, if sales were disappearing on the other hand, I would be worried...
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                                                          • tonyparra
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2008
                                                            • 4568

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by alias
                                                            I guess some of you have never sold crack.. .
                                                            crack is good shaving is bad...

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                                                            • lazycash
                                                              Troll Patrol
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 15214

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Supz
                                                              Are you kidding. That is the funniest best part of the convo. He also said "thx" right before he said they were shaving. I laughed so hard.
                                                              Um, why would I be kidding, the "lol" was because I thought that part of the convo was funny.
                                                              "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams..

                                                              Its crazy..."

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                                                              • Jack Sparrow
                                                                Almost goners..
                                                                • May 2008
                                                                • 11420

                                                                #32
                                                                Companies shave sales, not clicks.

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                                                                • DVTimes
                                                                  xxx
                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                  • 31650

                                                                  #33
                                                                  i like them.

                                                                  i hope they add rss feeds.
                                                                  XXX

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                                                                  • alias
                                                                    aliasx
                                                                    • Apr 2001
                                                                    • 19010

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                    i like them.

                                                                    i hope they add rss feeds.
                                                                    They added them yesterday, check your email.
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                                                                    • DVTimes
                                                                      xxx
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 31650

                                                                      #35
                                                                      cool

                                                                      rss feeds have been added:

                                                                      http://www.nakednewsheadlines.com/feed/?nnid=35940
                                                                      XXX

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                                                                      • alias
                                                                        aliasx
                                                                        • Apr 2001
                                                                        • 19010

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                        Yes it is very exciting.
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                                                                        • DVTimes
                                                                          xxx
                                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                                          • 31650

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by alias
                                                                          They added them yesterday, check your email.
                                                                          i did not see the email.

                                                                          but cool, now we hav.e the rss feeds.
                                                                          XXX

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                                                                          • alias
                                                                            aliasx
                                                                            • Apr 2001
                                                                            • 19010

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                            i did not see the email.

                                                                            but cool, now we hav.e the rss feeds.
                                                                            You must be proud.
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                                                                            • SleazyDream
                                                                              I'm here for SPORT
                                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                                              • 41470

                                                                              #39
                                                                              isn't every click a sale?
                                                                              This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog!

                                                                              Now read without the word dog.

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                                                                              • suesheboy
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Nov 2002
                                                                                • 5211

                                                                                #40
                                                                                I hear crickets
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                                                                                • Agent 488
                                                                                  Registered User
                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                  • 22511

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  cheats and slobs.

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                                                                                  • CamJack
                                                                                    Old School Webmaster
                                                                                    • Sep 2003
                                                                                    • 1334

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    I am talking with my programmers now.

                                                                                    There's no shave on uniques or joins.

                                                                                    We track everything, checks, credit cards, mobile...never turn off rebills.

                                                                                    I'll have an answer when I know more. Don't pick on Bryan, he's been here 2 weeks.

                                                                                    I am so sick of people saying they weren't paid. When ibill went under we paid, when 365 went under, we paid, when we burned our merchant accounts, we paid. It was either fraud or a mistake that could easily be looked up and dealt with.
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                                                                                    • Bryan G
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                                                      • 8338

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Hey Everyone,

                                                                                      As George said we are not shaving hits nor sales.

                                                                                      When counting the number of hits an ip number got. There was a rare
                                                                                      occasion when the ip could not be attributed to his id(a jpg, or partial request to the web page). In some cases this would cause the uniq ip to be assigned to the 0 nnid. Since the stats are updated roughly every 5 mins it was taking uniques from past stats.

                                                                                      This was a minor bug in our system and has since been fixed.
                                                                                      Bryan
                                                                                      skype: bryan.glass3 | ICQ 302999591

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                                                                                      • CamJack
                                                                                        Old School Webmaster
                                                                                        • Sep 2003
                                                                                        • 1334

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        On another note, I would be careful with that domain name. Naked News is a registered trade mark and I'm not sure how that translates legally.

                                                                                        But thank you for your 20 daily uniques, I can retire now.
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                                                                                        • LongBG
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Jun 2007
                                                                                          • 1101

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by geoGUERILLA
                                                                                          On another note, I would be careful with that domain name. Naked News is a registered trade mark and I'm not sure how that translates legally.

                                                                                          But thank you for your 20 daily uniques, I can retire now.
                                                                                          Although he is fucking with you, that's no way to treat an affiliate. And specially on a public webmaster forum.

                                                                                          Not that you obviously give a fuck. It's better to save face than look like an idiot.

                                                                                          Enjoy your retirement.
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                                                                                          • erooup
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2010
                                                                                            • 512

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by geoGUERILLA
                                                                                            On another note, I would be careful with that domain name. Naked News is a registered trade mark and I'm not sure how that translates legally.

                                                                                            But thank you for your 20 daily uniques, I can retire now.
                                                                                            nakedgirlsnews.com are not even close to being a trademark infringement. You should be glad he is covering the niche and sending your program the traffic. Someone was once knows as 12-click Ron, but I heard he did well.
                                                                                            Last edited by erooup; 07-14-2010, 06:45 AM.

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                                                                                            • Caligari
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Oct 2009
                                                                                              • 5414

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by LongBG
                                                                                              Although he is fucking with you, that's no way to treat an affiliate. And specially on a public webmaster forum.

                                                                                              Not that you obviously give a fuck. It's better to save face than look like an idiot.

                                                                                              Enjoy your retirement.
                                                                                              you gotta be kidding me, he just wrongfully called his program a scam and you're saying "its no way to treat an affiliate?"

                                                                                              I think geoGUERILLA is showing a great deal of restraint in this situation.
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                                                                                              • CamJack
                                                                                                Old School Webmaster
                                                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                                                • 1334

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I have review sites converting 1 in 18, tube sites under 1 in 150, affiliates getting $60 on one year joins when they are sending to a free trial, so this person sending 20 uniques a day (spending more time looking at stats than marketing) going to the boards is a bad move. I have spent 3 months building this affiliate program, day and night, and to have someone accuse me of cheating them (when its the cleanest, most honest thing I ever touched) angers me. For me I like his domain name and appreciate the effort, I understand the craft behind building up a domain name. I'm just wondering if someone registered GirlsGoneReallyWild.com would get a letter. I am far from a lawyer, so I can't answer that.

                                                                                                Some people hated what XXXJAY did with his meta tags, and marketing tactics, and threatened to sue him, I was always a huge supporter of what he did and respected it. Some owners and lawyers are very sensitive about protecting their name, others appreciate the hard work and skill involved in locking down terms.
                                                                                                Last edited by CamJack; 07-14-2010, 07:34 AM.
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                                                                                                • Theo
                                                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 34515

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  drama, lama...

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                                                                                                  • MoreMagic
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                                                                                                    Heeee that is cool, this thread start to become funny.
                                                                                                    Last edited by MoreMagic; 07-14-2010, 07:39 AM.

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