North Korea targets the US

[privatesociety]

http://news.sky.com/story/1069789/no...eat-targets-us

Do you think they would launch missiles at US targets?

If so, do you think the US would retaliate?

[seeandsee]

They send nukes to usa, usa 99% destroy missiles in air and then destroy north korea

[CyberHustler]

They send nukes to usa, usa 99% destroy missiles in air and then destroy north korea

[Slick]

It's always funny seeing the little guy try to act tough, there's NO way in hell they could win any kind of war with us. Why not just shut your mouth and continue to enjoy your life of fucking over your people and being an asshole. Plus looking at the article, it says

"However, he added: "I can categorically state that multiple rocket launchers and 'long-range artillery' are not going to threaten the US mainland, Guam or Hawaii, unless they are put on a ship and sailed to within firing distance (which I doubt the North Koreans are about to do)."

Thus, with our watchful eye, I don't think any ship loaded with those missiles would ever get very far from port.

[privatesociety]

They send nukes to usa, usa 99% destroy missiles in air and then destroy north korea

Whilst China sits there watching?

[L-Pink]

Whilst China sits there watching?

I think China might be the first ones to retaliate if N Korea launches an attack against the US. They don't want that shit going on, disrupting trade in their backyard.

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[purecane]

I think China might be the first ones to retaliate if N Korea launches an attack against the US. They don't want that shit going on, disrupting trade in their backyard.

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I agree, nuclear fall-out is bad for business.... And besides, the only reason NK is still a country is they have no oil, diamonds or poppy fields

[DWB]

They send nukes to usa, usa 99% destroy missiles in air and then destroy north korea

The USA couldn't knock a couple passenger jets out of their own sky on 9-11. I wouldn't put too much faith in their missile defense system when it has to be used for real.

A well planned attack on the right day, at the right time, and you never know what could happen. Besides, they don't even have to target the USA to cause total chaos.

[OldJeff]

If they launch a nuke, then Nuke is the only option, if the US did not retaliate and demonstrate they will use the nuclear deterrent, then our nukes become useless

[DWB]

It's always funny seeing the little guy try to act tough, there's NO way in hell they could win any kind of war with us.

Assuming you believe the official story, I have three words for you: Osama Bin Ladin

Not only did he win the long term war, but he changed the entire world with one event. The fact he is dead now is a moot point, because he already won.

There is more than one way to win a war. No idea what the N Koreans are really up to. This could all be a dog and pony show to distract from something else they have up their sleeve.

But if they went toe to toe, you are correct, they would lose unless the USA was dumb enough to try to invade them, which won't happen because they have no resources that the USA wants, yet.

[O MARINA]

Is this real life or Olympus has Fallen movie?

[theking]

The USA couldn't knock a couple passenger jets out of their own sky on 9-11. I wouldn't put too much faith in their missile defense system when it has to be used for real.

A well planned attack on the right day, at the right time, and you never know what could happen. Besides, they don't even have to target the USA to cause total chaos.

Pigshit.

[theking]

Assuming you believe the official story, I have three words for you: Osama Bin Ladin

Not only did he win the long term war, but he changed the entire world with one event. The fact he is dead now is a moot point, because he already won.

There is more than one way to win a war. No idea what the N Koreans are really up to. This could all be a dog and pony show to distract from something else they have up their sleeve.

But if they went toe to toe, you are correct, they would lose unless the USA was dumb enough to try to invade them, which won't happen because they have no resources that the USA wants, yet.

More pigshit.

[Harmon]

Assuming you believe the official story, I have three words for you: Osama Bin Ladin

Not only did he win the long term war, but he changed the entire world with one event. The fact he is dead now is a moot point, because he already won.

There is more than one way to win a war. No idea what the N Koreans are really up to. This could all be a dog and pony show to distract from something else they have up their sleeve.

But if they went toe to toe, you are correct, they would lose unless the USA was dumb enough to try to invade them, which won't happen because they have no resources that the USA wants, yet.

So true on many levels.

The "war" wasn't to kill millions, it was to incite fear and violence and allow the US to show their true colors. It worked... it crippled the US on several different levels...money, reputation, reliability.

Suddenly everything went from "hunky dory" to "OMFG everybody is trying to kill us". Banks went under, the US military basically broke the bank funding a bullshit war that had nothing to with nothing. Do not get me wrong, I feel for every person that lost their life on 9/11.

The entire thing is just such a joke.

It will take years upon years to regain a reputation that was lost, and that's providing it can even happen.

[anexsia]

North Korea always has this kind of propaganda shit going on, all of the TVs in North Korea play bullshit propaganda all day talking about fighting the U.S and how great NK's army is.

North Korea can't do shit...just throwing little temper tantrums as always.

[theking]

So true on many levels.

The "war" wasn't to kill millions, it was to incite fear and violence and allow the US to show their true colors. It worked... it crippled the US on several different levels...money, reputation, reliability.

Suddenly everything went from "hunky dory" to "OMFG everybody is trying to kill us". Banks went under, the US military basically broke the bank funding a bullshit war that had nothing to with nothing. Do not get me wrong, I feel for every person that lost their life on 9/11.

The entire thing is just such a joke.

It will take years upon years to regain a reputation that was lost, and that's providing it can even happen.

Pigshit.

[DWB]

Pigshit.

I know you think about it. Next time the thought enters your mind, solider up and just do it.

[pornguy]

Whilst China sits there watching?

China has told the guy from NK several times to back off.

[2MuchMark]

They send nukes to usa, usa 99% destroy missiles in air and then destroy north korea

The US would not retaliate with nukes. First, NK only has maybe 1 or 2 nukes, and they are too heavy for their missiles. IF they tried they would fall into the ocean.

But if they managed to explode one over US soil, the US would hit their military spots with conventional weapons and then maybe maybe take out KIM himself. This would end the conflict and save millions of NK lives. Hitting back with nukes would be a very dangerous escalation that would upset other countries and the world would be on a very dangerous path.

Obama would not send go to war. He would "end it" as described above. The only one who has a hard-on for war these days is John McCain and his boner is pointing at a different country anyway.

[Harmon]

The US would not retaliate with nukes. First, NK only has maybe 1 or 2 nukes, and they are too heavy for their missiles. IF they tried they would fall into the ocean.

But if they managed to explode one over US soil, the US would hit their military spots with conventional weapons and then maybe maybe take out KIM himself. This would end the conflict and save millions of NK lives. Hitting back with nukes would be a very dangerous escalation that would upset other countries and the world would be on a very dangerous path.

Obama would not send go to war. He would "end it" as described above. The only one who has a hard-on for war these days is John McCain and his boner is pointing at a different country anyway.

I'm pretty sure if we were "nuked" over US soil... we wouldn't send a couple missles in there and just end it...fast. I am pretty sure we would crater that shit. Yes, Obama would go to war if we had nuclear fallout.

If the US did not retaliate with a strike like that? It would do nothing more than drop us down a notch on the totem pole... which we already reside on top of.

I agree. The possibility of these gooks/zipperheads dropping on a bomb on the US is less probable than them doing it on them selves by mistake. These slopes are stupid, inbred retards. Let the rice eaters talk. It will backfire.

[TheSquealer]

It's always funny seeing the little guy try to act tough, there's NO way in hell they could win any kind of war with us. Why not just shut your mouth and continue to enjoy your life of fucking over your people and being an asshole

The simple answer to this is that N. Korean leaderships power over its people lies largely in the idea that they are still at war with the US and with S Korea, still under attack and so on. You can't rally the people behind a dicey government without a cause. If the cause is greater than the daily problems (i.e. "you need us to protect you from an imminent threat"), then people forget about the daily problems and the government retains its power over them.

They've been doing and saying the exact same shit for decades. It's nothing new. History has proven that when they pound their chest and start acting out, the result is surrounding nations capitulate and offer more food, fuel, medicine and economic aid.

[pimpmaster9000]

oh shit he has some chubby female soldiers manually moving around a ww2 cannon this is a serious threat to the USA! its time for the gun nuts to stock up on more guns and ammo!

[Mike Honcho]

Assuming you believe the official story, I have three words for you: Osama Bin Ladin

Not only did he win the long term war, but he changed the entire world with one event. The fact he is dead now is a moot point, because he already won.

There is more than one way to win a war. No idea what the N Koreans are really up to. This could all be a dog and pony show to distract from something else they have up their sleeve.

But if they went toe to toe, you are correct, they would lose unless the USA was dumb enough to try to invade them, which won't happen because they have no resources that the USA wants, yet.

You're comparing two different types of war. North Korea doesn't have the ability to launch, execute and successfully accomplish a Guerrilla Warfare style campaign. Their mission is best achieved, funding, supplying(Dirty bomb, Funds, etc), and 'praying', that ( through a 3rd party source) will maybe be able to help accomplish their goals.

If you really think 9/11 was orchestrated by a group of Afghanistan cave dwellers, then maybe you too should read into 'the full story'.

North Korea will have no choice but to fight an conventional war, if they are the first to launch an attack. They'll be secluded to an island that can produce NO oil(I could continue to list more disadvantages), once that single element is removed from the table. It will only be a matter of time before the country's infrastructure collapses, which leaves them with two options. Surrender or launch a nuclear attack. The US already has a secure LZ in the south, with the ability to stage and launch a full land, air, and sea attack, so invading them wouldn't be out of the question. Not to mention China's obligation as a super power to help keep world peace.

It's a lose, lose situation. They are only doing this to try to get attention on the world stage. Nothing will ever come to fruition and this is just accomplishing their goals.

[ExtremeBank_Adam]

I am half (South) Korean, so I've been watching this closely. My fear, of course, is more of the North attacking the South on a large scale, which would bring the US into it by default. Those fuckers in the North are crazy.

Just hope they get everything straightened out soon... we're heading to South Korea in September.

[Mutt]

But if they managed to explode one over US soil, the US would hit their military spots with conventional weapons and then maybe maybe take out KIM himself. This would end the conflict and save millions of NK lives. Hitting back with nukes would be a very dangerous escalation that would upset other countries and the world would be on a very dangerous path.

LOL you are a looney toon. You think that if a fucking nuclear bomb hit the United States, meaning tens of thousands of Americans killed/burned/vaporized, millions of others exposed to radiation destined to die of cancer ........... that the US would 'hit their military spots with convential weapons and then MAYBE take out Kim himself'? There wouldn't be anything standing in North Korea within 24 hours.

[Scott McD]

Pigshit.

Pigshit.

Pigshit.

Seriously, that's your argument ??

[theking]

Seriously, that's your argument ??

That is my response to nonsense. I do not feel the need to present an argument to nonsense...sport.

[georgeyw]

What is the bet that Kim Jong Il gave Ding Dong Dumb the advice of 'to keep your people in constant fear, posture against the rest of the world to show your minions you are not to be fucked with'

I doubt they will ever do anything, it is all about fear mongering in his own backyard.

[2012]

im shitting my pants

[DWB]

Seriously, that's your argument ??

That's the best that old phoney military clown can do. But Pathfinder... that guy could debate. Where is Pathfinder when you need him?

[Rochard]

North Korea doesn't have the ability to bomb anyone. Having a nuke and being able to deliver it is two different things.

North Korea might be able to find a land war against South Korea, but that would be pretty much be it. And they have a large army - one million men plus another eight million in reserve - but they do not have a blue water navy which means they would be unable to attack any US Navy base. I am also guessing their military, much like their civilian world, and woefully behind in technology.

Sure would make for some great TV however.

[Bryan G]

Seriously, that's your argument ??

That's all he ever says when someone says something against the US military. He's a man of debate!

[ajrocks]

he doesn't need to win a war against the US, he'll destabilize half the world including China. Bad news for everyone.

[mineistaken]

It's always funny seeing the little guy try to act tough, there's NO way in hell they could win any kind of war with us. Why not just shut your mouth and continue to enjoy your life of fucking over your people and being an asshole. Plus looking at the article, it says

"However, he added: "I can categorically state that multiple rocket launchers and 'long-range artillery' are not going to threaten the US mainland, Guam or Hawaii, unless they are put on a ship and sailed to within firing distance (which I doubt the North Koreans are about to do)."

Thus, with our watchful eye, I don't think any ship loaded with those missiles would ever get very far from port.

Kim said to his buddy Dennis Rodman that they are not going to attact US and A.

[Scott McD]

That is my response to nonsense. I do not feel the need to present an argument to nonsense...sport.

The USA couldn't knock a couple passenger jets out of their own sky on 9-11. I wouldn't put too much faith in their missile defense system when it has to be used for real.

A well planned attack on the right day, at the right time, and you never know what could happen. Besides, they don't even have to target the USA to cause total chaos.

Please tell me which part was nonsense ?? Looks like valid points and questions to me.

[Rochard]

he doesn't need to win a war against the US, he'll destabilize half the world including China. Bad news for everyone.

With NK having nukes, and being a wild card, China has lost complete interest. Starting a conventional war is one thing, but shooting off nukes in China's sphere of influence and China won't allow it.

China wouldn't back NK at all at this point. They've made that clear at the UN also.

[theking]

Please tell me which part was nonsense ?? Looks like valid points and questions to me.

If that is the case...I choose not to respond to ignorance...and at this point in time I do not care to take the time to educate you.

[theking]

That's all he ever says when someone says something against the US military. He's a man of debate!

Pigshit. It is my response to nonsense such as you just posted.

[pornmasta]

[MrMaxwell]

The USA couldn't knock a couple passenger jets out of their own sky on 9-11. I wouldn't put too much faith in their missile defense system when it has to be used for real.

A well planned attack on the right day, at the right time, and you never know what could happen. Besides, they don't even have to target the USA to cause total chaos.

Sure we could have.. don't be ridiculous.
Maybe they get the first one, but you really think we could not have stopped the second one?

[DWB]

Sure we could have.. don't be ridiculous.
Maybe they get the first one, but you really think we could not have stopped the second one?

Buuuuuuut they didn't and one more plane flew into the towers, one flew into the Pentagon, and one went down in Pennsylvania. That was my point. What they could have and should have done do not matter after the fact. Whatever the reason that day, the US skies were left defenseless. And I refuse to believe those in command of the hijackers didn't have prior knowledge of this somehow. It was all just too perfect to be a random coincidence.

Shit happens and anyone can be caught with their pants down. It happened at Pearl Harbor, it happened in New York, and unfortunately it can and probably will happen again sometime in the future. I hope it doesn't of course, but logic says the unexpected will happen when we least expect it.

[MrMaxwell]

Buuuuuuut they didn't and one more plane flew into the towers, one flew into the Pentagon, and one went down in Pennsylvania. That was my point. What they could have and should have done do not matter after the fact. Whatever the reason that day, the US skies were left defenseless. And I refuse to believe those in command of the hijackers didn't have prior knowledge of this somehow. It was all just too perfect to be a random coincidence.

Shit happens and anyone can be caught with their pants down. It happened at Pearl Harbor, it happened in New York, and unfortunately it can and probably will happen again sometime in the future. I hope it doesn't of course, but logic says the unexpected will happen when we least expect it.

I won't discuss this to any great length out in a public forum.. but, we definitely could have stopped most of what happened.

[Rochard]

Buuuuuuut they didn't and one more plane flew into the towers, one flew into the Pentagon, and one went down in Pennsylvania. That was my point. What they could have and should have done do not matter after the fact. Whatever the reason that day, the US skies were left defenseless. And I refuse to believe those in command of the hijackers didn't have prior knowledge of this somehow. It was all just too perfect to be a random coincidence.

Shit happens and anyone can be caught with their pants down. It happened at Pearl Harbor, it happened in New York, and unfortunately it can and probably will happen again sometime in the future. I hope it doesn't of course, but logic says the unexpected will happen when we least expect it.

It will happen again. It's only a matter of time. Logical guesses would be to ram a ship filled with oil into a port, or some how attack our oil storage facitilites - They have tons of them about an hour from where I live and the only thing stopping anyone from attacking them seems to be a single chain link fence.

[DWB]

we definitely could have stopped most of what happened.

That's what I'm saying. THEY COULD HAVE but they didn't. And they won't some other time too.

It will happen again. It's only a matter of time. Logical guesses would be to ram a ship filled with oil into a port, or some how attack our oil storage facitilites - They have tons of them about an hour from where I live and the only thing stopping anyone from attacking them seems to be a single chain link fence.

What's crazy is, you're just one guy with no agenda and you can see the weakness there. To a group who actually wanted to do harm and put in some work and thought, your scenario could easily become reality.

I've always said they could bring absolute fear and panic to the entire country if they just started randomly sending suicide bombers into churches, schools, malls, and restaurants. You know they have the guys here already who are willing to do it. Imagine the chaos if tomorrow 10 different pre-schools blew up and a handful of mall detonations happened in random states and cities. People would FREAK OUT. But what bothers me a little is that they don't do things like this, which makes me wonder if the threat is as real as we are told it is. It's not like they can't do it. Hell, any one of us could do it. But they don't, and that leaves me scratching my head.

[MainstreamGuy]

It's all BUZZ of the media, we all know there is no possible way to reach that distance.

Some people, specially powerful people in US, just can't wait for a WWIII, because they consider that as the only solution to the never ending US Crisis, and also the coming World Economic crisis... US is the US, due of the two big wars of 20th century, we all know that and anyone who studied a bit knows it.

[KyleC]

I used to be stationed in Guam and our B-52's are ready to go.
But that being said, we shouldn't just worry about the mainland USA.
Japan never attacked our mainland and they still dragged us into war by striking Hawaii. We have a lot of vulnerable bases and troops spread around the globe, some even within Korea. I hate when the debate is only about the states.
I mean we've been fighting a 10 plus year old war against countries we "thought" had weapons of mass destruction"
If and when North Korea launches a nuclear attack (anywhere in the world) it will be the end of how we've been viewing this world.

[Rochard]

What's crazy is, you're just one guy with no agenda and you can see the weakness there. To a group who actually wanted to do harm and put in some work and thought, your scenario could easily become reality.

I've always said they could bring absolute fear and panic to the entire country if they just started randomly sending suicide bombers into churches, schools, malls, and restaurants. You know they have the guys here already who are willing to do it. Imagine the chaos if tomorrow 10 different pre-schools blew up and a handful of mall detonations happened in random states and cities. People would FREAK OUT. But what bothers me a little is that they don't do things like this, which makes me wonder if the threat is as real as we are told it is. It's not like they can't do it. Hell, any one of us could do it. But they don't, and that leaves me scratching my head.

I haven't given it much thought, but every time I drive down to San Francisco we pass through a town that has these massive oil tanks. Every once in a while we'll see a security SUV with lights on it, but I'm guessing that's a single security guard that may or may not be armed. Seems like an easy target. The idea about ship came from an incident years ago when an oil tanker was out of control and slammed into port - taking out the entire town with it. (Sorry, seems it was just a fire but was the worst industrial accident ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_Disaster)

The truth is our security system fails to exist. This past weekend I was out on the backside of town - the farm land - where none of us suburbanites go... And noticed a lot of power lines which led to some kind of huge electrical transformer station.... Not a fucking soul in miles on a Sunday afternoon. Gas stations would be another target; Here in my home town last year we had a massive propane tank fire on a tanker train that caused our entire town to be evacuated for two days.

If you want to create mayhem in the US, the only thing stopping you is physically being here.

[TheLegacy]

They send nukes to usa, usa 99% destroy missiles in air and then destroy north korea

Pretty much - USA has a good antimissle defence system that anything coming close would be taken care of and certainly by the time one missle even came close to USA there would be 10 heading the other way. My understanding is NK doesn't have the ability to destroy much coming back to them. Saying that USA mostly would target military and government offices rather than hit civilians.

[just a punk]

Pretty much - USA has a good antimissle defence system that anything coming close would be taken care of and certainly by the time one missle even came close to USA there would be 10 heading the other way. My understanding is NK doesn't have the ability to destroy much coming back to them. Saying that USA mostly would target military and government offices rather than hit civilians.

A good antimissile defense system does not exists. It's a fantasy The good news is that NK has no intercontinental ballistic missiles to attack the USA.