Truthfully, who ever pays for Web Design?

[-=HOAX=-]

Ok...so I got my skills and I got my site...but what I'm wondering is...

Does anybody really pay for someone to come in and design their frontpages/tourpages/insides?

Everybody and their mother knows Photoshop...

I'm trying to take a general poll of webdesigners gettin paid for their graphic skillz.

And also webmasters, what would it take for you to say, "Damn these design's are DOPE! I think I'll whip out my Credit Card!!" ?

And what does everybody think about Dynamic Data Driven Flash sites and applications?

What would one expect to pay for an awesome Flash/XML Front end and a PHP/MYSQL backend. Everything is Updated with forms and admin pages, database driven but the whole site would require the flash plugin.

Do you think cutting out all the poor fucks with shit fer 'puter's and crap for connections to too much of a drawback?

What if there was a happy medium or an alternate html site?

As a Designer I see alot of rookies and professionals alike with nice sites...but it seems a growing fad...I want to either offer something new and fresh or concentrate my efforts elsewhere...or fuck even if I did Adult Design part time is it even worth the time?

Whatever...I'm just rambling and curious...



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"On the other hand....you have more fingers..."

[Amputate Your Head]

I don't believe that everyone & their mother DOES know PS.... if they did, there would be no market for designers. And there ARE plenty of designers. Not for your average tgp link list type site.... not many I would think would pay to have one of those designed. But for paysites? Hell yes... not only does it take some serious skills, but it's incredibly time consuming as well. Most people would simply rather pay to have it done. Same principle with maid service. Everybody knows how to wash their fucking underwear... but some just don't have the damn time to waste on it.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-:
or fuck even if I did Adult Design part time is it even worth the time?

Hmmm.... in my opinion, probably not. The design arena is already saturated and it's gettin' pretty tough to make a buck. There's more designers than buyers at the moment.

[-=HOAX=-]

Fucking Murphy, his laws are so fucked! As soon as I posted that question I got a client...I thank you for your opinion. One question though...are you a designer who doesn't need the competition? HEHEHEHEH...


Personally I like graphic work...its easy for me and I can whip out a 5 page tour in about 4 hours. The faster I work the more I get paid...it beats the daily grind of the hum drum webmaster routine...


Another question...How do you think flash will affect the adult world? Think it will seap into our seedy underbelly?



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"On the other hand....you have more fingers..."

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by -=HOAX=-:
One question though...are you a designer who doesn't need the competition? HEHEHEHEH...

Of course.



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[-=HOAX=-]

Well your biased opinion is greatly appreciated...

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"On the other hand....you have more fingers..."

[ez12]

well -=HOAX=- I had a few sites made by raptorlabs I guess If you want to do it really pro you'll use a webdesigner and a specially with paysites !


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[-=HOAX=-]

Yea I kinda knew that...the purpose of my post is to see how many people actually pay for design...apparently you have in the past and most likely would again in the future...thanks fer da input...

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"On the other hand....you have more fingers..."

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

OK dipshit .... You have my full and undivided attention now ... and prolly the attention of many more people just lurking too ...

Say what you want to say to me ?!?

I don't know who exactly you are (yet ...) but I see that you are mocking my USERNAME, and asking alot of little suckass designing questions ...

So I ask you to save yourself any future embarassment, and tell me right here, right now what do you want ?!?

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[RedShoe]

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I can't for a "RedPumps" or someone like that to start mocking me.

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hey hoax, nobody pays for webdesign ... I just downloaded the lot of yahoo.com, took me less than 2 minutes cause I am sitting on a dedicated 4GBit line ... all I did is replaced their logo ... now I have my own portal service ... cool ey ??

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[kittykat69]

Fuck everyone is getting a satirical send up character, i've got Kittyspam69 over at PC - although i managed to fuck them off, now this "-=hoax=-"

Of course there are ppl who are out there that pay for design - if you really are a designer like you 'say' you are then you should fucking know this!

That is liek me saying "does anybody buy content/" when I know they do coz i spend 24/7 taking orders!

NOT everyboduy and their mother knows PS6
I for one am quite happy to admit that I don't. See my button at the bottom of this screen ?? well that's about as far as I've got with it - it looks good big but I just made it smaller to be a button. - but i think it proves that i know dick about it.

I may not not PS6 but I DO know good desgin when I see it - (i majored in arts at school) Which is why over half the members on this board hit me up to check their designs before they go up

I can tell you now tht 90% of sites out their are built by inhouse companies and they are complete shit!!!


If I had the money to spend on my sites then you can bet the first thing I'd be doing is calling on ppl like AMP and Hungryman and Redshoe to do my graphics - Hopefully this time next year I will - But I've only been doing this for 6 months - so I gotta start somewhere.

What woukd make me wanna whip out my credit card? well I should just be able to look at someones' Sig button here and know straight aaway if i want them to design for me.

Have a look at some of the buttons in this thread - man they make me cream my pants!!!
I KNOW that i could say to these guys ok this is whatI want and they will deliver - with designs way past my expectations!!

Why don't you try showing us one of your buttons and then I'll decide if you have anything worthy to bring to the table

what sort of question is THIS??!!:
"Do you think cutting out all the poor fucks with shit fer 'puter's and crap for connections to too much of a drawback? "

Only some tiny percent of ppl connected to the net have cable or dsl and you can bet your ass theat the majority of them are webmasters.
the majority of surfers are using 56k or LOWER - so why would you even think about cutting out ppl with what you call 'shit puter' - in some parts of the world that's all ppl CAN get! - so who the fuck are you to play connection nazi and decide who should get access and who shouldn't??

I have a friend who just yesterday has release d the frst site to offer DVD quality FULLSCREEN videos and they work on dial up!!!
SO if you only got your head out of your ass and started comin up with ideas like his one then you might realize that thee is a lOT of money to be made from ppl with "shit 'puters"

Now this bit I just simply don't understand:
"As a Designer I see alot of rookies and professionals alike with nice sites...but it seems a growing fad...I want to either offer something new and fresh or concentrate my efforts elsewhere..."
do you know what "oxymoron" means??? Well how can you say there are a lot of nice sites and now you want to offer something fresh?? what are you gonna do - make hideously gross sites??? YOu just said yourself they are nice - so what do you have that's so 'fresh' - pleez show us here - post something you got - that it not nice but is fresh - Coz i just don't get it at all.

Flash??? We already had this discussion 3 days agp when Redshoe posted it why don't you go and read for yourself what everyone thinks about it .

If you are rambling and incoherent then I suggest you go and sober up - coz you've brought nothing of value up and personally I can't believe i just wasted this much time siting here replying to this utter shit - but then again someone had to do it.


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[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

KITTY FOR PRESIDENT !!!
VERY ELOQUENTLY STATED

You can hit me up for a deal on graphics anytime Kitty !!

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[-=HOAX=-]

Holy shit...

I haven't even read the (scathing i'm sure) replies yet...I'm not here to mock anyone...I'm a designer who is trying to get a bit of info about the market.

I never intended to start a whole line of shit...

I'm not an avid poster (here or elsewhere) and this is partly the reason...It seems some of you are lurking around cocked and loaded ready to blow up on the first unsuspecting person to ask a few questions...

As far as the low bandwidth question goes...I'll admit that a majority of the worlds population is not up to broadband speed, sure...but as a designer I get tired of designing solely for the lowest common denominator...I asked the question because i thought it an interesting prospect to design a few sites for those with higher computing capablilities...they obviously have the cash to throw out on a nice set up and everybody needs their porn right?

Man, I can't believe how easy some people are to get riled up over a few posts...

I know and have dealings with a few people here who will rename nameless in this prepiss rebutle and I can assure any who doubt my identity I'm not anyone who's ever posted here and will be happy to prove that fact come January...

As for the button I felt that any self promotion may be taken the wrong way I notice there are a few designers here that are quite accomplished and revered and I felt stepping into their territory in such a manner might be a bit presumptuous.

In my attempt to gain a bit of insite without stepping on toes I seemed seem to have stepped on a few feet and gained nothing but harsh opinions and some unwarranted verbal abuse...

-=HUNGRYMAN=- I never intended to mock your name...I will change my username immediately after this post...


To tha rest...lighten up...what was this place called???


OH YEA...."GO FUCK YOURSELF!"

[HOAX]

Kittykat69,

If you come across that flash discussion could you please post a link...I can't seem to find it...being the Uncle Fucka that I am...

[waste]

damn hoax you sure know how to make a first impression!

don't worry about those evil bastards they hate me too j/k

nah it seems to me most of the people here do want to pick a fight don't know why but they do.

welcome to the board and GOFUCKYOURSELF!

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[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

Well Hoax ... if this is true ... I am sorry .... but it has been a pretty tense past 4 days here ... fellow webmasters KNOWINGLY posting virus infested links ...
shit flinging ... and WHO's COCK is bigger contests ...I thought it was just a continuance of what's been going on ... and unlike several who would rather just sit and watch, I tend to get a little vocal when my favorite board is going to hell in a handbasket ...

If this is a case of mistaken identity ... then please accept my apologies, and



If it is not ... then just GO FUCK YOURSELF !!

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[This message has been edited by -=HUNGRYMAN=- (edited 12-12-2001).]

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-:
... and WHO's COCK is bigger contests ...

I think we all know the answer to that one.

And kittykay.... all I can say is, daaaayyyyuuuum girl! I hope I don't EVER get on your bad side!

[HOAX]

-=Hungryman=-,

I totally understand...I'm usually about as well recieved (and interpreted) as a toothy blow job...

That's probably why I myself don't have a favorite Board...


Waste,
Yeah man I hear ya...I'm not the fighting type myself...although I always end up in one...

I think we need a section devoted to unabashed pissing for pissing's sake...A place where we could go and urinate verbally upon others...that way all the trash talking we all want so desperately to do could be done in an area that transcends business or personal feelings...and heck maybe if we had a place like that all the rest of the stupid shit I say would go unnoticed...heheheh


oh yea....I took 20 minutes outa my day and made a button...Hope it works...Now if I just had a finished site that didn't look like shit...Any web designers out there wanna design my design site? lol

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[HOAX]

Amputate,

There's a quote that goes....


"Hell Hathe no fury like a woman who thinks your an idiot..."

er sumptin like dat...

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[kittykat69]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:

And kittykay.... all I can say is, daaaayyyyuuuum girl! I hope I don't EVER get on your bad side!

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Look this isn't even my bad side!!!! This was just a quite restrained little bit of criticism for something that I believed was just someone being a jerk off.
None here has ever seen me get even a little angry - and I hope it never happens lol

Hoax - no hard feelings I hope- Most everyone here whos ever had me piss at them or vice versa - we are now best of mates!!!

Here is the link you are after: http://bbs.gofuckyourself.net/board/...13783%2D2.html

Hope that helps

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[HOAX]

No hard feelings...just a bruised ego...Can I go back to asking stupid questions now...?

[Amputate Your Head]

Oh fuck me.... I misspelled your name kitty... hehe... oops!