Children and porn parties/conventions

[AaronM]

Between Internext and some comments I heard last night, there appears to be some concern about people who bring their kids to these events. Ages seem to range from infants through teens.

Should people be asked to leave a porn party for flashing because there are children present?

What are your thoughts on this?

[GoGoBar]

Originally posted by AaronM
Should people be asked to leave a porn party for flashing because there are children present?

Why on Earth would there be children present. Shouldn't those who brought them be the one's asked to leave?

[Jakke PNG]

They should leave kids at home

[Fletch XXX]

if there are kids around it shouldnt be done.

but yeah why are kids present?

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by AaronM
Should people be asked to leave a porn party for flashing because there are children present?

Absolutely not. The parents who brought the kids should be asked to leave instead.

[DJRCyberAVS]

Kids should not even be present at a porn convention....

[GrimShawn]

Originally posted by AaronM
Between Internext and some comments I heard last night, there appears to be some concern about people who bring their kids to these events. Ages seem to range from infants through teens.

Should people be asked to leave a porn party for flashing because there are children present?

What are your thoughts on this?

Depending on the settings is really what the important deal is. At internext or at conventions there is going to be exposure and it's a bad idea to bring kids, if you do I honestly say do it at your own risk.

But in deals like last night, it's a house party and they dropped a lot of cash on it. I'm sure some family members of the owner or people involved may have family come to see what's going on. In this situation I think it's a respect for the owner factor. IF there are kids or teens around don't do it. Is flashing really all that needed. Just cuz it's an industry house party does not mean you can just go fuck by the pool. If the owner/party host is down then have at it.

[MuleScrote]

I am going to take my child to your website now...please replace the pornography with Disney images before we get there.

[OFFBEAT]

I was thinking about this last night. I personally don't think children should not be brought out to play at mature functions, and they should be asked to leave. I saw at least two children around 7 years old last night.

I think it's a bit of common sense. You wouldn't let your 7 year old child watch a pornographic film (at least I hope not), so why would you bring them a party or Internext where the possibility of them seeing sexual activity is right around the corner?

[OFFBEAT]

Originally posted by MuleScrote
I am going to take my child to your website now...please replace the pornography with Disney images before we get there.

[theking]

Taking kids to a porn convention???? Maybe this is a classic case of "this is your brain on drugs"?

[KRL]

Who brings kids to porn parties and conventions?

[AaronM]

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
if there are kids around it shouldnt be done.

but yeah why are kids present?

Valid point. With that said...If there are kids around...Should people be dressed like this? And if so....Would you knowingly bring your kids along?

[JFK]

Children Have No place at events like this. You have a party for adults keep it that way No Exceptions.

[Sly_RJ]

Oh, there is of course a difference in party types. A large party with hundreds of drunk people and many models/porn girls, not a place to bring kids. A small party (ball game, poker, dinner, etc.) with a more tame crowd, more safe to bring kids. Either way, babysitters are the way to go...

[TurboAngel]

So who's dumb ass had to bring the KIDS?

[AdultNex]

Who in their right mind would actually bring their kids to view nude models and such?

[DJRCyberAVS]

Originally posted by AaronM


Valid point. With that said...If there are kids around...Should people be dressed like this? And if so....Would you knowingly bring your kids along?

If there are kids around, then it shouldn't be an Adult convention. Regardless of dress code, how can you openly discuss Porn, getting traffic to your porn sites, vist such and such a Porn booth... while there are kids there anyhow?

Would I knowingly bring kids along? Hell no... Legal age should be verified on the way in.

[baddog]

aha, so that is what happened. I had not even thought about the little kids that showed up.

hmmm, tough call. I guess it is up to the host of the party to say "no kids" or "bring at your own risk."

[MuleScrote]

Obviously the people organizing for the event are responsible for setting the tone from day one. If nothing else is said, an "Adult Webmaster Party" will be just that...ADULT.

"Friends and families are welcome to attend, so keep your flesh covered."

Why not have a 3 hour preparty at say 7 o'clock where everyone can come, but knows that after 10 things are gonna get nasty.

People need informed!!

[theking]

Originally posted by AdultNex
Who in their right mind would actually bring their kids to view nude models and such?

Very possibly the same ones that think it is OK to operate a porn bussiness out of ones home with young children living in that home...like this Tipsy character for one.

[TheFLY]

I'd let my kids watch some un-perverted sex, but I wouldn't let my kids near you people -- most of ya'll have some serious issues.

That's not really the point though -- I'm sure there are some laws on the books about "corrupting minors" -- SO it would only be respectful to the host of the party that you do not invite anyone under 18, otherwise you could inadvertently sabotage the host. Bringing kids is disrespecting whoever is responsible for the party.

[MonsterMike]

I?ve noticed lots more kids (infants, toddlers?etc.) recently at the conventions. During the Internext bikini contest there were lots of girls flashing their hoots at the pool and there were kids in the area.

You can?t tell attendees that they cannot bring their kids to the hotel and you also can?t tell the babes around the pool not to flash their hoots at a porn convention.

[MuleScrote]

Originally posted by M P
I?ve noticed lots more kids (infants, toddlers?etc.) recently at the conventions. During the Internext bikini contest there were lots of girls flashing their hoots at the pool and there were kids in the area.

You can?t tell attendees that they cannot bring their kids to the hotel and you also can?t tell the babes around the pool not to flash their hoots at a porn convention.

That just makes our industry look bad

[Deb]

Kids & porn = bad idea.

[icedemon]

At the Internext convention, I see nothing wrong with bringing your whole family with kids to the hotel and staying there. It's like a vacation for the entire family. There shouldn't be kids in the convention area itself and the parties. I remember see a kid walk right in the middle of where the bikini contest was taking place at the pool party and wondering why someone brought their kid to a party at the convention.

I see no reason to not have your kids and family staying at the hotel, cause adult things shouldn't be happening in the public area of the hotel expect for the spots where the parties were held. I remember seeing people coming in with famalies into the hotel looking around (I'm thinking they were thinking about staying there not knowing what was going on).

[AaronM]

Originally posted by MuleScrote


That just makes our industry look bad

Agreed. The question to me is...What is worse? Bringing the kids or the activities that the kids may be exposed to?

I have no idea who the children belong to that were there last night. At one point a VERY young girl was walking around our table and there was no parent in site. About 10 minutes later her mother finally located her.

What I do know is that there were a few girls flashing and even without the flashing...some of the outfits were too revealing for an event with children. Are we, as pornographers, supposed to assume that children will be at the parties and conventions and dress accordingly?

In some aspects I would be OK with this. By removing some of these people and the questionable activities you could potentially open more space for serious business opportunities. This is what SleazyDream has done with his TGP parties.

On the other hand....Removing these elements would take away some of the fun and adventure of the events. People like to hear the stories, see the sexy pics, and even bitch and moan about what went on.

The bottom line is that it is additional exposure for the events....But at what cost?

[SykkBoy]

Anyone else remember a show that was booked at a hotel the same time as a teen beauty pageant? yikes

[freeadultcontent]

Just ban children. They already ruin enough adult activities as it is.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by theking


Very possibly the same ones that think it is OK to operate a porn bussiness out of ones home with young children living in that home...like this Tipsy character for one.

fuck off you idiot

I have kids at home and work from home. The difference? I don't work on anything porn related when they are awake. I leave that for the evening time. I work on feeder sites for the pill sites, email campaigns, etc.

I would never bring my kids to an adult oriented party and all they know is daddy works on the computer.

I've attended some get togethers with other people in the adult industry where we've brought the kids, but we keep discussions mild and of course dress properly.

It's all about discretion.

[AaronM]

Originally posted by icedemon
At the Internext convention, I see nothing wrong with bringing your whole family with kids to the hotel and staying there. It's like a vacation for the entire family. There shouldn't be kids in the convention area itself and the parties. I remember see a kid walk right in the middle of where the bikini contest was taking place at the pool party and wondering why someone brought their kid to a party at the convention.

I see no reason to not have your kids and family staying at the hotel, cause adult things shouldn't be happening in the public area of the hotel expect for the spots where the parties were held. I remember seeing people coming in with famalies into the hotel looking around (I'm thinking they were thinking about staying there not knowing what was going on).

So what you are saying is that people should be allowed to bring their families as long as the kids stay in their rooms?

Great idea. I know that if I had kids and they were staying at the Diplomat that they would be content to sit on the balcony and watch the people at the pool from 30 floors up. No way would they want to get out of that room and go swimming...that is cool considering that there were parties at the pool.

Can't take the kids to the restaurants either cause of some of the parties there. No problemo...That's what room service is for and with all the money I saved by not getting a baby sitter, I can easily afford it anyway.

We had the ENTIRE hotel booked. At any given time there were 20 hot women almost dressed and standing in front of the hotel. I know that if I pulled into the driveway on my family vacation that I would see that and then promptly walk my kids into that situation. It's not like people actually plan vacations ahead and call the hotels for advanced reservations anyway.

[pornguy]

I feel that it comes down to as couple of things.

1) We as adult webmasters are trying to convince the government and the citizens of the US that we are not bad people, and that we do everything to protect the children. Then we bring a kid to a party or convention???

Brains anyone???


IN Florida, and most states, you are breaking several laws to expose a child to anything that can be labeled ADULT!

Does it make sense that the same child could go with mom and dad 2 miles from the Westin and go to the nude beach?? NO, but that beach is not an ADULT function.


2) Why in the hell would you bring a kid to a function like these?? Do you really think that this kid will not tell at least one child in the school that they attend?? Then you get some snotnosed shitty teacher or parent calling HRS and saying that you are abusing the child. Then you and your sites are in a world of shit.

The worst part is that by bringing the children to the parties, you have put us all into a position of having to defend ourselves more!!!


LEAVE THE KIDS AT HOME!

[AaronM]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
I've attended some get togethers with other people in the adult industry where we've brought the kids, but we keep discussions mild and of course dress properly.

It's all about discretion.

Which brings up another point.....When I was a child...I had a certain time that I had to be in bed by. WTF is up with kids at these parties at 3 in the morning?

[Kamilla36D]

I was suprised too to see 2 very young kids at the table right next to ours last night And we all agreed that it was a bad idea and wondered why the parents didn't hire a babysitter?
Totally uncool

I had a great time at the party though!
Kamilla

[FATPad]

Kids at a porn convention or porn party?

oiy.

Someone should have donkey kicked the parents (once they were located) in the nads so they couldn't reproduce anymore.

[Beastiepoo]

I plan on attending Internext in January and my husband and I will be bringing our daughter who will be 11 months old. That said, we are not staying at the Venetian, 4 family members who know what we do for a living are staying with us and have volunteered to babysit in shifts so that we can attend the convention and not worry about the safety of our daughter. I would NEVER expose a minor to what should be an adults only situation, and I think any parents that do probably shouldn't be parents in the first place.

[paul1000]

Let me throw some fuel to the fire ..

What is really sad here, is that this even came to be a discussion.

People need to make better decisions.

You took on the responsability to have children, now take the responsability to be a proper parent.

[theking]

Originally posted by pornguy
I feel that it comes down to as couple of things.

1) We as adult webmasters are trying to convince the government and the citizens of the US that we are not bad people, and that we do everything to protect the children. Then we bring a kid to a party or convention???

Brains anyone???


IN Florida, and most states, you are breaking several laws to expose a child to anything that can be labeled ADULT!

Does it make sense that the same child could go with mom and dad 2 miles from the Westin and go to the nude beach?? NO, but that beach is not an ADULT function.


2) Why in the hell would you bring a kid to a function like these?? Do you really think that this kid will not tell at least one child in the school that they attend?? Then you get some snotnosed shitty teacher or parent calling HRS and saying that you are abusing the child. Then you and your sites are in a world of shit.

The worst part is that by bringing the children to the parties, you have put us all into a position of having to defend ourselves more!!!


LEAVE THE KIDS AT HOME!

In addition...in my opinion...all of the same things you stated applies to those that run porn businesses out of their homes and have young children and here in California if it is brought to their attention...the CPA is going to come down on you...and this of course brings more heat down on the industry as a whole.

It is my opinion that those that operate porn businesses from their homes with young children residing in the home...are not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[theking]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2


fuck off you idiot

I have kids at home and work from home. The difference? I don't work on anything porn related when they are awake. I leave that for the evening time. I work on feeder sites for the pill sites, email campaigns, etc.

I would never bring my kids to an adult oriented party and all they know is daddy works on the computer.

I've attended some get togethers with other people in the adult industry where we've brought the kids, but we keep discussions mild and of course dress properly.

It's all about discretion.

It is you that is the idiot for the reasons stated by pornguy as posted above.

[GotGauge]

I asked a parent at Internext, why she had her children there.
She was from another country, and she said this is no different then everyday TV for them... Nothing they are not use to seeing.

I am not saying it is right, that is the answer I got from ONE woman...

Aron

[pornguy]

Did anyone one notice the people that the Westin let into the hotel with their children that were NOT part of the convention???


We went to eat at the place there in the hotel by the door to the pool, and as we walked in we passed a woman at a table with 2 children. One of the ladies that I was with was wearing panties and an open dress. While all of her parts were covered, it was an outfit that you can NOT wear to the mall...


We were informed by the hotel that these were people that come to the hotle every week for dinner. When we asked the lady if she had been informed about the convention being an ADULT convention, she said NO! The hotel only said that they had a convention. She further said that if she had known, she would not have come!!!


It seems to me that a lot of people have just lost control of their own lives... And Aaron, I had to be in bed by 9pm when I was a kid. Summer or not!

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by theking


It is you that is the idiot for the reasons stated by pornguy as posted above.

hahaha
what a moron

[FATPad]

Originally posted by GotGauge
I asked a parent at Internext, why she had her children there.
She was from another country, and she said this is no different then everyday TV for them... Nothing they are not use to seeing.

I am not saying it is right, that is the answer I got from ONE woman...

Aron

That's pretty lame.

Say for some reason the cops show up. Suddenly they want to know why there's kids at this obviously adult convention.

Do you think anyone will care that she is from another country and her kids are "used to this stuff"?

One of these conventions is going to end in a miserable state for everyone there. Open drug use, people pissing in cups and drinking it in public, and now kids present at porn conventions/parties.

I would hate to be at the convention that has all those and gets raided. And it's coming.

[kaylacam]

bad bad bad parents!

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by AaronM


Which brings up another point.....When I was a child...I had a certain time that I had to be in bed by. WTF is up with kids at these parties at 3 in the morning?

Same here, my kids have a bed time (I'm a bit more liberal on the weekends). I also take the responsibility to shield them from my work, this includes doors, locks, bed times, etc.

I also have enough side projects that involve nothing adult whatsoever and that's all I work on when they are awake.

On my kids' computer, I use filtering software and a keystroke logger. They have desktop shortcuts to nick.com, nickjr.com and cartoonnetwork.com. 90% of the time I am with them when they are online. They are too young for chat, but when they become older, I will sure as hell keep tabs on that as well.

It's called parenting, it's a full time job and it doesn't pay so well, but it's my duty to society to not produce a bunch of reprobates and idiots. It's a job I take pride in.

It is possible to balance both worlds, but it takes work and I can't relax for even a second. I would also never do a photoshoot in my home or conduct any business meetings or discussions while the kids are present. For meetings and such, I always meet up at a different location away from home.

[kaylacam]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2


Same here, my kids have a bed time (I'm a bit more liberal on the weekends). I also take the responsibility to shield them from my work, this includes doors, locks, bed times, etc.

I also have enough side projects that involve nothing adult whatsoever and that's all I work on when they are awake.

On my kids' computer, I use filtering software and a keystroke logger. They have desktop shortcuts to nick.com, nickjr.com and cartoonnetwork.com. 90% of the time I am with them when they are online. They are too young for chat, but when they become older, I will sure as hell keep tabs on that as well.

It's called parenting, it's a full time job and it doesn't pay so well, but it's my duty to society to not produce a bunch of reprobates and idiots. It's a job I take pride in.

It is possible to balance both worlds, but it takes work and I can't relax for even a second. I would also never do a photoshoot in my home or conduct any business meetings or discussions while the kids are present. For meetings and such, I always meet up at a different location away from home.

I respect that.

[BradShaw]

I am not sure what people are thinking of bringing kids to a porn convention. Always irks me. If you can not leave them at home, put them up at another hotel.

[markell]

what a shame, if you cant find a baby sitter or cant afford one maybe you shoul put your priorities in order, make sure your kids are safe, then go party.. ther eis no reason.. infant, toddler, or anyone under 18 should be allowed to attend.

but if i had a son maybe 16 or older, id bring him to the convention.. i mean shit at that age they already know whats up.. id rather be there to show eme right from wrong opposed to them doing it on ther eown and getting into trouble

[Peaches]

If it's a private party, then the hosts have the say on who's brought to it. Period.

I know several of us took our kids to Dokk's house 3 years ago for a party that was nothing but adult webmasters. Kids were invited, they had a GREAT time and everyone had the common sense to keep their clothes on.

I DON'T think they should be taken to a convention where the hotel is designated for adult webmasters only, but if we only have some of the rooms at a big hotel, and you don't take your kids to the show and parties themselves, I don't see a problem with it - after all - OTHER guests are going to have their kids there.

And if there are kids there, i.e. a private party where you see them and/or a hotel where kids are there (adult webmaster kids or others), then have some common sense and keep your clothes on.

[TDF]

kids and porn should never ever be mentioned in the same sentence