So You Wanna Be An Adult Webmaster Eh? Newbies Guide To Submitting

[lil2rich4u2]

Well, i posted this back in april somewhere, figured someone may benefit from reading it.

Yes it is possible to make money with gallery submitting. However it is NOT possible to make EASY money with gallery submitting, atleast not in my experience.

Want to make money doing only submissions? Here is a schedule to follow. Assuming you follow it, or something similar .. you WILL make money, more money than you can handle!

Daily Schedule:

Make 1 teen gallery
submit it to 20 "exclusive teen" TGP's
add a link to your gallery onto a hub page

Make 1 ebony gallery
submit it to 20 "exclusive ebony" TGP's
add the link to your hub page

Repeat process for "elder" - "bbw" - "cum" - "anal" - "general"

Thats 7 galleries per day submitted to 140 NICHE TGP's! And 7 links added to your hub so far (per day)

Now make a "FREE SITE" with 3 gallery pages, 30 pics total .. and submit it to ALL the link lists you can find, and go to http://www.thelinksmachine.com to find other places to submit. Try to submit it to maybe 50-70 link lists, as well as adding it to your hub.

Now mirror that site to another folder, and convert it to an AVS ... submit it to all the sites you can find that will list AVS sites, as well as your own hub.

Now make 1 paragraph of erotic text, and add a table to your hub page inbetween some links.

In conclusion, you will make and submit 9 sites. All galleries will be getting niche targetted traffic and that increases signup ratio. You will also be adding 9 links per day to your hub, as well as a new paragraph of text each day ... this will give you some good text content and hopefully grab some good SE listings to bring even more traffic to your sites!

Even if you get HALF of your galleries listed, thats still 105 galleries per month listed on niche TGP's, recieving targetted traffic!

Wanna go a step furthur??? On every site you make, add a link to your hub site ... this will give you link-backs for PR increase, AND it can leak traffic to your hub!

If you can follow this plan fully, for even a week ... if you dont make money within 30 days, you seriously need to format your drive and start collecting baseball cards or something!



The way you find all these niche TGP's .... just go to a site like thumbzilla and look on his toplist. Find a site that matches your niche and go to it. Submit your site to him and look at his toplist. Submit your site to everyone in his toplist and go to the next site. Follow their toplist ..... its endless.



Ok im sick of typing, heh

hope this helps some people.

[loverboy]

seems rough but I like your style...

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by loverboy
seems rough but I like your style...

it actually is rough, very! But nobody said making coin was easy right? I mean this isnt the 80's anymore, you gotta work to sell porn now!

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


you gotta work to sell porn now!

Hmm, I'll have to look into that. So me selling porn and not working I must be doing something wrong eh?

[Aza]

ssssh its a secret

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Hmm, I'll have to look into that. So me selling porn and not working I must be doing something wrong eh?

theres very few people who can do what you claim to be doing, i give them all the credit in the world.

But the truth is, 95% of adult webmasters that i have met dont have a clue "why this doesnt convert" or "how do i make more than $1k per month" or "what sponsor to use"

Truth of it is, it makes no difference in the least what sponsor you use. You need to push the living shit out of it to see a satisfying result.

[kenny]

50 galleries a week is alot, I would recommend mixing some AVS sites in that formula or something

[stocktrader23]

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2



theres very few people who can do what you claim to be doing, i give them all the credit in the world.

But the truth is, 95% of adult webmasters that i have met dont have a clue "why this doesnt convert" or "how do i make more than $1k per month" or "what sponsor to use"

Truth of it is, it makes no difference in the least what sponsor you use. You need to push the living shit out of it to see a satisfying result.

Don't get me wrong, I work my ass off. Just on new ideas and sources of income. What I already have set up makes me money regardless.

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by stocktrader23


Don't get me wrong, I work my ass off. Just on new ideas and sources of income. What I already have set up makes me money regardless.

was it tough to setup what you have making you money without working?

I have a few ideas for long term results, but its hard to alott time for them since you know right off they wont pay you tomorow, heh

[Theo]

Originally posted by kenny
50 galleries a week is alot, I would recommend mixing some AVS sites in that formula or something

yes

well that's a rule, if you do galleries you should at least turn em in small avs sites as well.

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


yes

well that's a rule, if you do galleries you should at least turn em in small avs sites as well.

good idea

[kenny]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel


yes

well that's a rule, if you do galleries you should at least turn em in small avs sites as well.

Two galleries a day = 1 AVS site a day + mirror the AVS site to several AVS systems

Spend the rest of the work day learning about or working on your own free sites, premium AVS sites, traffic pumps, etc.

That simple formula should make any new webmaster selling porn decent money. Of course the biggest factor is your marketing skills.

[fantasyc]

Whats a HUB?

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by fantasyc
Whats a HUB?

just an html page (doesnt have to be fancey) that holds all of your links.

Something like a TGP, except you dont do traffic trades or force traffic there.

This way you can submit that one site to the SE's and have ALL your sites spidered.

[Nasty D]

Originally posted by fantasyc
Whats a HUB?

i think it goes over the wheel

[fantasyc]

Great info, thanks. I never had any luck so I will try it your way

[baddog]

Originally posted by fantasyc
Whats a HUB?

try Hub Wizard

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by fantasyc
Great info, thanks. I never had any luck so I will try it your way

Glad it helped someone!

Hope you get lots of ideas from this.

[joefoxxx]

so uh this means I have to work more then the 30min I work right now on doing galleries

Isn't there an easier version?

How much time would it take daily to do it as you suggest (I do galleries for years.. never touched AVS so far)

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by joefoxxx
so uh this means I have to work more then the 30min I work right now on doing galleries

Isn't there an easier version?

How much time would it take daily to do it as you suggest (I do galleries for years.. never touched AVS so far)

When i followed that schedule it took me near 10hrs a day. I cant do it now since i work in this biz only part time at night and have a full time job durring day.

Unless your using an autosubmitter and something to build your recip tables, i cant see it possibly taking as little as 30 minutes to complete even a single gallery (including submissions) let alone 7 or more.

[kenny]

Originally posted by joefoxxx
so uh this means I have to work more then the 30min I work right now on doing galleries

Isn't there an easier version?

How much time would it take daily to do it as you suggest (I do galleries for years.. never touched AVS so far)

After I learned how to write small programs, I cut my work as much as 70%

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by baddog


try Hub Wizard

looks like a handy program. Prolly wouldnt be too hard to write my own, but i never thought of making a program just to manage my hub, lol

When your only adding a few links a day, its not too hard to do it by hand.

[Groove]

lil2rich4u2 have you voted yet?

See sig:

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


When i followed that schedule it took me near 10hrs a day. I cant do it now since i work in this biz only part time at night and have a full time job durring day.

Ok so let me get this right, you're not good enough at this business to do it full time and pay your bills, but if a newbie follows your plan and isn't "making money" in 30 days they should format their hard drive and collect baseball cards?


The blind leading the blind...

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by Lenny2


Ok so let me get this right, you're not good enough at this business to do it full time and pay your bills, but if a newbie follows your plan and isn't "making money" in 30 days they should format their hard drive and collect baseball cards?


The blind leading the blind...

hey there fruitcake, stick your dick back between your legs and walk away.

I have a good job durring day paying me way more money than i can make doing the same amount of hours in this biz. It pays me extremely well, and offers top notch benefits. Why would i leave that when i can have my cake and eat it too?

[sarettah]

Some good advice there

If I may add, If you are newbie and want to make money in this biz.

Don't waste your time posting, unless it is quetsions that you are asking that will help you. In the same amount of time you spend posting you can be building.

build, submit, build, submit, repeat.

Also, get yourself over to Volrtars place at http://www.vnwr.com or a similar place where you will find help and advice without all the bullshit that the older more established folk will throw at you on the other boards.

[pornJester]

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2


hey there fruitcake, stick your dick back between your legs and walk away.

I have a good job durring day paying me way more money than i can make doing the same amount of hours in this biz. It pays me extremely well, and offers top notch benefits. Why would i leave that when i can have my cake and eat it too?

ups driver?

[wdsguy]

when u are turing these galleries into avs sites, is the point of doing many diff avs's just to get traffic from their link list so u can sell your sponser within the avs sites or is it to sell the avs memberships?

[Dveron]

Why would i leave that when i can have my cake and eat it too?

FREEDOM!

Fuck working for the man. Fuck working a 9 -5.

[smack]

informative. thanks lil2rch

[easyfun]

lil2rch has given the best advice going here -
Once you got your galleries, use them for free sites , avs (Use the avs sites to upsell to premium avs) Nothing stopping you rebuilding each gallery to re add to tgps promoting your avs sites (This way, each gallery gets two tgp drops, several avs and multiple free sites (Each, of course linked back to your hub.
Another thing not so far mentioned - And this adds several thousands of hits daily -
Make sure you get a good outlet for you 404 traffic - And create your galleries in such a way to get 404 traffic,
1) Number your galleries ( 001/ 002/ 004/ 006 etc Not consecutive)
Loads of surfers like to scroll the url back in their browser to fish for more free stuff - Catch them all! Good profit in this traffic...

[Shoplifter]

Originally posted by kenny
50 galleries a week is alot, I would recommend mixing some AVS sites in that formula or something

It's an outrageous amount...It will probably get you banned everywhere.

Doing 7 high quality galleries and playing by the rules will get you farther.

[AdultNex]

Originally posted by kenny


After I learned how to write small programs, I cut my work as much as 70%

What do your programs achieve?

[easyfun]

Rich talked of targetting tgp with his gallereis galleries - Which is the best way to get out many more -
Pantyhose tgps are great for pantyhose galleries - So you would not post a gay gallery there, would you?
If you target, you can do many galleries and only send two or more galleries to the tgps that allow it ( X tgp has amateur and feet fetish, and allows 2 posts a day, so you send then one of each - Nothing wrong in that.
I agree, if you cheat and send multiple galleries to the same tgp using different names, emails and a proxy based browsers (The sort sunny dollars sell at their sunny scripts site) Then you should be hung out by your bollox - This game is about getting right and doing so correctly.

[lamrobertson]

Originally posted by Shoplifter



It's an outrageous amount...It will probably get you banned everywhere.

Doing 7 high quality galleries and playing by the rules will get you farther.

Your not going to get banned. He is saying to submit each niche gallery to the matching top niche tgps.

[AdultNex]

To me, adding galleries to an AVS is worthless, I find the conversion ratios horrible-- I'd stick to TGP's instead.

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by easyfun
1) Number your galleries ( 001/ 002/ 004/ 006 etc Not consecutive)
Loads of surfers like to scroll the url back in their browser to fish for more free stuff - Catch them all! Good profit in this traffic...

excelent point! I always catch one of my other galleries as a referrer to a new gallery, that means they are trying to figure out my numbering.


Also, alot of people dont realize that you dont need to change your template too often. Infact your better off NOT changing it this way the TGP owner see's you continuously posting.

Make yourself 7 templates (1 for each niche) and just fill them with different content each day, change the title and head a bit, and your done.

simple.

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by AdultNex
To me, adding galleries to an AVS is worthless, I find the conversion ratios horrible-- I'd stick to TGP's instead.

I agree.

In my small experience, i find you need to make your galleries seperate from your free sites.

make a gallery, submit it.

make a free site, submit it.

make your free site into an AVS, submit it.

[NBDesign]

Originally posted by AdultNex
To me, adding galleries to an AVS is worthless, I find the conversion ratios horrible-- I'd stick to TGP's instead.

Why would you submit galleries to an AVS? Wouldn't just be better to put up tours that lead into your sponsors sign up?

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by lamrobertson


Your not going to get banned. He is saying to submit each niche gallery to the matching top niche tgps.

exactly. Thanks.

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by NBDesign


Why would you submit galleries to an AVS? Wouldn't just be better to put up tours that lead into your sponsors sign up?

i dont think he meant submitting galleries to an avs sponsor. I think he meant to make a splash, then a tour, and have several galleries as your content.

Not exactly a horrid idea, but i like to keep my AVS galleries series, as well as matched to the theme of the AVS site i built.

[sarettah]

Originally posted by NBDesign


Why would you submit galleries to an AVS? Wouldn't just be better to put up tours that lead into your sponsors sign up?

A chance for an additional sale of the AVS and the more stuff you have out there, the more stuff for the SEs to find... The more stuff the SEs find, the more SE hits....

It is all about targeted traffic and getting as much of it as you can through your empire each day....

[easyfun]

If you have say, 50 60 avs sites with say four different avs systems, Make four good premium avs sites - Then use the avs site to upsell to the premium avs sites -
It is all about numbers -
If every site contains a link back to your hub, then much traffic finds it's way there.

Use your free sites for either your pay site or sponsors.
Use the avs sites to make cash from upsells (premium avs and sau aebn feeds eg)
Use all of those sites for traffic back to your hub -
And use all of those sites for search engine listings.
I just saw a thread about 200K hub sites .
Work this properly, and you should have well over a million hits a day going through the system.
Look at 1% to your pay site and make as much as you can from the rest!

[Shoplifter]

Originally posted by lamrobertson


Your not going to get banned. He is saying to submit each niche gallery to the matching top niche tgps.

Well I run two niche TGP's, and I ban guys every day who are doing this.

It's very easy to detect excessive submissions over the 1 a day rule...Sponsor codes, proxy IP's and gallery style give it all away.

The guys who get the top listings are preparing custom galleries with unique graphics and content.

[easyfun]

We are not talking about cheating the tgps sites!!!

Don't you understand this???

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by Shoplifter


Well I run two niche TGP's, and I ban guys every day who are doing this.

It's very easy to detect excessive submissions over the 1 a day rule...Sponsor codes, proxy IP's and gallery style give it all away.

The guys who get the top listings are preparing custom galleries with unique graphics and content.

i think you are clueless.

Did you even read the post???

Make a teen gallery, submit it to a teen tgp

make a ebony gallery, submit it to an ebony tgp

make a bald gallery, submit it to a bald tgp

Thats only one submission per day to your niche tgp, why would you ban someone?!?

[easyfun]

Probably because he doesn't understand profesional marketing 1) and 2) Sort of power crazy!

[lil2rich4u2]

Originally posted by easyfun
Probably because he doesn't understand profesional marketing 1) and 2) Sort of power crazy!

mmmm power

half the reason to start a tgp!

[easyfun]

I just closed all of mine down!

[eddie-executive]

If you get tons of traffic to your hub shouldn't it be a nice layout? Can someone show me an example of a hub site? This thread is very helpful one of the best i read.