Would you call this admitting you committed credit card fraud? - GoFuckYourself.com

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 11:31 AM

So once again shady as hell company Archivecash was under fire on another board a little while ago because PRdave got random charges from them on his cc without ever signing up for their sites. The same stuff that's been happening with their buddies from Incredible Dollars etc. You all seen the many threads about them over the last few months. We all can agree it's one big clusterfuck.

Anyway, another thread was started called "Archivecash is clean" where that dumb kid Deejne known here as DJ the kid tried to convince us that any shit that was going on with them is now cleaned up. So right away he admitted there was shit going on. He just refused to tell us what shit. Just that it was cleaned up.

In that thread several people asked Deejne to comment on the thread from PRdave where his got banged by Archivecash. Deejne kept on ignoring this but as he got put under pressure (and that big mouth kid can't handle much, he made a TOTAL fool of himself in that thread) he replied to it with these words:

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Originally Posted by deejne

We are on the clean route....

To address PR Dave, yes mistakes were made in the past, and like I told many people including you Roald, the past is the past and we are taking steps in the right direction.

This is directly aimed at that thread where Dave explained us how his card got banged by Archivecash.

So what do you think of this? Is this basically saying "yes we banged your card, sorry"?

Btw that whole thread, 4 pages or so, is quite a read. That stupid kid tried to clean things up but instead he made things look 10x worse and 10x more shady. He is as of yet still not able to tell us what this so called clean up is.

Just thought i shared as many of you missed that stuff and i see that idiot posting here like nothing happened.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 11:32 AM

Dammit, i hate fuck ups in thread titles.

Fletch XXX · 02-10-2009, 11:41 AM

your avatar rocks DF

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 11:42 AM

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your avatar rocks DF

Spank you.

SteveHardeman · 02-10-2009, 11:43 AM

In a court of law, no. In the court of public opinion, yes.

Roald · 02-10-2009, 11:47 AM

damn first my name shows up in a video from I$ about this all and now in your quote.

Man I need a bulletproof vest for the Phoenix forum. Anyone selling cheap?

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

damn first my name shows up in a video from I$ about this all and now in your quote.

Man I need a bulletproof vest for the Phoenix forum. Anyone selling cheap?

Bump

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 02:18 PM

Oh sorry, i forgot for a minute it's the evil tubes that are killing this industry. Not the sponsors you all promote because you don't want to hear about that. Sorry...

Mutt · 02-10-2009, 02:46 PM

what board? jbm?

Deej · 02-10-2009, 02:51 PM

Shady indeed...

Its sad that all these companies are all bundled up into a large fraud based clusterfuck...

all blaming each other...

instead of trying to spot the shady company... people are resorting to hunting for the legit companies... sad as fuck!!

There are a couple good people involved with all of these greedy scamming fucks... I hope they make it out with their head held high...

HorseShit · 02-10-2009, 03:06 PM

fuck it cc companies have no money anyway

The Duck · 02-10-2009, 03:08 PM

fuck it all

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kandah

fuck it all

What a great answer. Then again i didn't expect anything from else from a person who believes alien lizards disguised as humans walk on earth

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

So once again shady as hell company Archivecash was under fire on another board a little while ago because PRdave got random charges from them on his cc without ever signing up for their sites. The same stuff that's been happening with their buddies from Incredible Dollars etc. You all seen the many threads about them over the last few months. We all can agree it's one big clusterfuck.

Anyway, another thread was started called "Archivecash is clean" where that dumb kid Deejne known here as DJ the kid tried to convince us that any shit that was going on with them is now cleaned up. So right away he admitted there was shit going on. He just refused to tell us what shit. Just that it was cleaned up.

In that thread several people asked Deejne to comment on the thread from PRdave where his got banged by Archivecash. Deejne kept on ignoring this but as he got put under pressure (and that big mouth kid can't handle much, he made a TOTAL fool of himself in that thread) he replied to it with these words:

This is directly aimed at that thread where Dave explained us how his card got banged by Archivecash.

So what do you think of this? Is this basically saying "yes we banged your card, sorry"?

Btw that whole thread, 4 pages or so, is quite a read. That stupid kid tried to clean things up but instead he made things look 10x worse and 10x more shady. He is as of yet still not able to tell us what this so called clean up is.

Just thought i shared as many of you missed that stuff and i see that idiot posting here like nothing happened.

Yeah nice nick you hide behind on JBM... Broke Webmaster

Also, apparently you can't read... I don't see anywhere that I said we committed any credit card fraud...

Move along

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

Also, apparently you can't read... I don't see anywhere that I said we committed any credit card fraud...

Apparently you can't read you dumb fuck.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 03:53 PM

Someone just gave me some more info about Archivecash, Incredible Dollars, Soloconverts etc etc. On the boards they all pretend they don't know eachother, don't work with eachother etc but what i just heard is what i basically knew all along. All these guys are involved in this shit. They are either working together, used to work together or actually blaming eachother now trying to get away clean. It's the biggest clusterfuck in adult internet as far i know. They leave companies, pretend to leave companies, make up names, blame the rogue affiliate, start new companies and in the meantime bang the fuck out of the customer's credit card. There is so much shady shit going on between all these companies...it's just insane.

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Apparently you can't read you dumb fuck.

The thread was so juicy on JBM because you were in there and 3/4 of the others in there are Brads friends and associates. How else is he going to drive traffic to his board? Hype up something on his board. Drama queens.

Please stop making false accusations against us.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

The thread was so juicy on JBM because you were in there and 3/4 of the others in there are Brads friends and associates. How else is he going to drive traffic to his board? Hype up something on his board. Drama queens.

Please stop making false accusations against us.

So now is your chance to explain us all what you actually meant with what you responded with to PRdave's thread. If i'm so totally wrong why don't you explain it to us? Can't be that hard right?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-10-2009, 03:57 PM

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D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Someone just gave me some more info about Archivecash, Incredible Dollars, Soloconverts etc etc. On the boards they all pretend they don't know eachother, don't work with eachother etc but what i just heard is what i basically knew all along. All these guys are involved in this shit. They are either working together, used to work together or actually blaming eachother now trying to get away clean. It's the biggest clusterfuck in adult internet as far i know. They leave companies, pretend to leave companies, make up names, blame the rogue affiliate, start new companies and in the meantime bang the fuck out of the customer's credit card. There is so much shady shit going on between all these companies...it's just insane.

We have nothing to do with Incredible Dollars or SoloConverts... we don't work with them man, how many times do I have to tell you. You have poor listening skills

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 03:59 PM

I reads like this:

PRdave: Archivecash banged my card.
Deejnemoron: Yeah mistakes happened but it won't happen again.

That's what YOU came up with. I'm not making this up. So you say i'm reading that wrong. So tell me how i should read that exactly because no matter how hard i try i can only read it in 1 way.

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

I reads like this:

PRdave: Archivecash banged my card.
Deejnemoron: Yeah mistakes happened but it won't happen again.

That's what YOU came up with. I'm not making this up. So you say i'm reading that wrong. So tell me how i should read that exactly because no matter how hard i try i can only read it in 1 way.

No that's not how it reads. You are a drama queen distorting the situation and twisting the truth (aka lying) to your liking.

Qbert · 02-10-2009, 04:02 PM

I think I've seen this movie before. The ending sucks ass.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

No that's not how it reads. You are a drama queen distorting the situation and twisting the truth (aka lying) to your liking.

Then explain to us how it reads man. What are you waiting for?

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

We have nothing to do with Incredible Dollars or SoloConverts... we don't work with them man, how many times do I have to tell you. You have poor listening skills

That's why you had xsells to Incredible Dollars for a long ass time till 2 weeks ago? Stop lying you punk ass kid.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

We have nothing to do with Incredible Dollars or SoloConverts... we don't work with them man, how many times do I have to tell you. You have poor listening skills

2 weeks ago.

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 04:06 PM

You've heard it all, get over it...

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:07 PM

Anyway, that's not even what this thread is about. You're gonna explain to us what you meant when you responded to PRdave's thread. Right? I mean why leave us with the wrong idea when you can correct it instantly.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-10-2009, 04:08 PM

C-mon Frank don't do this.

I need you here, dont get banned on stupid shit.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:08 PM

"To address PR Dave, yes mistakes were made in the past"

So what does that mean dumbass? Come on man, your fifth or so post in this thread saying i'm wrong but not 1 post where you point out what exactly i'm saying wrong.

woj · 02-10-2009, 04:10 PM

I'll take this seat right here, carry on guys...

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Anyway, that's not even what this thread is about. You're gonna explain to us what you meant when you responded to PRdave's thread. Right? I mean why leave us with the wrong idea when you can correct it instantly.

It meant exactly what it says. Even though you would like there to be some sort of underlying meaning to it, guess what? There's not.

You're a waste of time. Please stop slandering us.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

It meant exactly what it says. Even though you would like there to be some sort of underlying meaning to it, guess what? There's not.

You're a waste of time. Please stop slandering us.

It says: Archivecash banged my card and you say yes sorry, won't happen again. If it does not read that i'm either fucking blind or you speak in code. If you do speak in code then fucking explain that code to us. Tell me what exactly you did mean. Why have you STILL not done that? You have every chance in this thread to show us that you didn't mean that yet you fail to use that chance for some reason. And the only reason i can think of is that it's impossible to make something else out of it. And i think most people will agree with me.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:23 PM

You still can't explain it simpleton? You are aware of this thread for 30 minutes now and you still aren't able to prove me wrong and tell us all what you actually did meant?

D Ghost · 02-10-2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You still can't explain it simpleton? You are aware of this thread for 30 minutes now and you still aren't able to prove me wrong and tell us all what you actually did meant?

I said we made mistakes, just like any company makes... what do you think the word "mistake" means? Look it up in the dictionary...

If you want drama, go watch a soap opera...

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

I said we made mistakes, just like any company makes... what do you think the word "mistake" means? Look it up in the dictionary...

If you want drama, go watch a soap opera...

So you're admitting it again?

So first you admit it, then you claim i'm reading it wrong and now you admit it again?

Jesus

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:32 PM

So can we clear this up now? You banged his card. I mean you confirmed it twice now. You simply banged his card (and not just his card ofcourse but that's for another thread).

Please confirm so we can stop this retarded word game.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 04:50 PM

Archive Cash has about as much to do with Incredible Dollars as anybody else who offered cross sales to ID, and visa-versa.

I highly doubt there was any malicious intent - and the shitty thing is that the entire basis of the system was trust between programs.

I'll explain this as easy as possible: These don't work that much differently than affiliate signups. If Company A had a deal with Company B, and Company A sent Company B a cross sale, Company B had no means of discerning how it was appropriated; by the same token, if Company A sent Company B a fraudulent sale due to an opt-in signup with a stolen card - they had no way of knowing. Both companies get to deal with that, and Company B gets a black eye for trusting Company A - or worse, the merchants and banks that processed it? Hindsight is always 20/20. This argument is retarded.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Archive Cash has about as much to do with Incredible Dollars as anybody else who offered cross sales to ID, and visa-versa.

I highly doubt there was any malicious intent - and the shitty thing is that the entire basis of the system was trust between programs.

I'll explain this as easy as possible: These don't work that much differently than affiliate signups. If Company A had a deal with Company B, and Company A sent Company B a cross sale, Company B had no means of discerning how it was appropriated; by the same token, if Company A sent Company B a fraudulent sale due to an opt-in signup with a stolen card - they had no way of knowing. Both companies get to deal with that, and Company B gets a black eye for trusting Company A - or worse, the merchants and banks that processed it? Hindsight is always 20/20. This argument is retarded.

This goes way beyond that. You have no clue.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 04:56 PM

So Deejne, are we clear on this now? I think we can be ad you admitted it twice now. Yeah?

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

This goes way beyond that. You have no clue.

If you're going to make a baseless accusation, at least have the balls to do so.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

If you're going to make a baseless accusation, at least have the balls to do so.

And yours 2 posts ago was based on what exactly?

GatorB · 02-10-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

I said we made mistakes, just like any company makes... what do you think the word "mistake" means? Look it up in the dictionary...

If you want drama, go watch a soap opera...

Simple question. Did you charge PR_Dave's card without permission or not? Have you done this with other's people cards or not? Do you think being coy is going to make everything Ok? Either man up or shut up that way the other guy will STFU too.

BVF · 02-10-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

It meant exactly what it says. Even though you would like there to be some sort of underlying meaning to it, guess what? There's not.

You're a waste of time. Please stop slandering us.

Ok, I don't have a dog in this fight....However, why don't you just way WHAT THE MISTAKE WAS?

stickyfingerz · 02-10-2009, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Archive Cash has about as much to do with Incredible Dollars as anybody else who offered cross sales to ID, and visa-versa.

I highly doubt there was any malicious intent - and the shitty thing is that the entire basis of the system was trust between programs.

I'll explain this as easy as possible: These don't work that much differently than affiliate signups. If Company A had a deal with Company B, and Company A sent Company B a cross sale, Company B had no means of discerning how it was appropriated; by the same token, if Company A sent Company B a fraudulent sale due to an opt-in signup with a stolen card - they had no way of knowing. Both companies get to deal with that, and Company B gets a black eye for trusting Company A - or worse, the merchants and banks that processed it? Hindsight is always 20/20. This argument is retarded.

Stop making sense... lol

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Stop making sense... lol

And you know there is not more going on how exactly? Please explain.

GrouchyAdmin · 02-10-2009, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

And yours 2 posts ago was based on what exactly?

Guilty until proved innocent is so 1999.

Unless you have any proof, or wish to actually make your accusation, just shut the hell up. All you've offered is speculation with no backbone. It was even acknowledged that AC was sent this card as a cross sale. So, what makes this their fault, or even a conspiracy? If you're just looking for thread views, buy some Choker traffic.

stickyfingerz · 02-10-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

And you know there is not more going on how exactly? Please explain.

Without me getting into this, what was the card billed as? Archive cash, or Incredible dollars? Did Dave uncheck the xsales? Did the extra bangs come from the xsales or from the initial signup? I have no dog in this fight, I just don't like seeing the bandwagoning without some substantial proof.

GatorB · 02-10-2009, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

And you know there is not more going on how exactly? Please explain.

the fact that sticky is commenting on a thread about ripping someone off is the height of irony.

Dirty F · 02-10-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Without me getting into this, what was the card billed as? Archive cash, or Incredible dollars? Did Dave uncheck the xsales? Did the extra bangs come from the xsales or from the initial signup? I have no dog in this fight, I just don't like seeing the bandwagoning without some substantial proof.

Yet you jumped on the bandwagon without knowing anything. First you comment like you know what's going on and now you ask me what's going on.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Someone just gave me some more info about Archivecash, Incredible Dollars, Soloconverts etc etc. On the boards they all pretend they don't know eachother, don't work with eachother etc but what i just heard is what i basically knew all along. All these guys are involved in this shit. They are either working together, used to work together or actually blaming eachother now trying to get away clean. It's the biggest clusterfuck in adult internet as far i know. They leave companies, pretend to leave companies, make up names, blame the rogue affiliate, start new companies and in the meantime bang the fuck out of the customer's credit card. There is so much shady shit going on between all these companies...it's just insane.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	I reads like this: PRdave: Archivecash banged my card. Deejnemoron: Yeah mistakes happened but it won't happen again. That's what YOU came up with. I'm not making this up. So you say i'm reading that wrong. So tell me how i should read that exactly because no matter how hard i try i can only read it in 1 way.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Anyway, that's not even what this thread is about. You're gonna explain to us what you meant when you responded to PRdave's thread. Right? I mean why leave us with the wrong idea when you can correct it instantly.

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Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	You still can't explain it simpleton? You are aware of this thread for 30 minutes now and you still aren't able to prove me wrong and tell us all what you actually did meant?

02-10-2009, 04:32 PM	#37
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	So can we clear this up now? You banged his card. I mean you confirmed it twice now. You simply banged his card (and not just his card ofcourse but that's for another thread). Please confirm so we can stop this retarded word game.

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02-10-2009, 04:56 PM	#40
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	So Deejne, are we clear on this now? I think we can be ad you admitted it twice now. Yeah?