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Old 12-08-2008, 04:57 PM   #1
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So where's "honest" Glen from I$???

TG have been posting statements.. QB has been posting statements.. hahaha has posted plenty of statements in the past and has been included in the latest TG statement... But not one word from Glen.

Frankly I just want to know if I should start scrapping all the stuff I have promoting their sites and consider any outstanding money as a loss because things aren't looking good if you've read everything and start putting things together... i.e. TG's latest statement is telling in what is excluded.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:46 PM   #2
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He must be "travelling"...
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i've got 10 bucks on you being banned within 24 hours :/
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i've got 10 bucks on you being banned within 24 hours :/
Why's that? Did I post something illegal or untrue?
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Link to said "latest statement" by TG?
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Link to said "latest statement" by TG?
You'll have to go to a couple other boards if you want all the uncensored info that's out there.
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Why's that? Did I post something illegal or untrue?
this is gfy man. I$ is in on the bro club
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A little food for thought, just because they said something isn't so doesn't make their statement true.
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He must be "travelling"...

First off, Glenn is out of the country. Though I know this is difficult for most of you to fathom but people do have a life outside of GFY and people who can travel and live an international lifestyle, do just that.

Second, regardless of what most of you asses *think* you know, Glenn is one of the most straight up guys in the business. I work on both sides of it (DVD and online) and have done this job full time for 13 years now, Glenn is as straight as they come and is one of the most honest people I've met in the industry.

So before you all jump on the "anti I$" bandwagon, you need to know your facts and not just what you hear on GFY from others who don't know what they are talking about. If you don't know him, don't attack him. If you have a problem with their business model, get off your lazy asses and go talk to him or anyone else from the company next month in Vegas. Though I'm going to bet not a single one of you will do so and 3/4 of you don't have the money to go there in the first place.

Further more (and I do NOT speak for Incredible Dollars) and this is my personal opinion, but I don't feel any explanation is due. Who are you? If you "need to know" you would have already contacted them directly instead of crying on a message boards, often behind fake nicks. If it was a real issue for you and not a bandwagon witch hunt, you would have already asked the questions you are curious about while speaking to any of the company owners or reps directly. All who post here are just showing their ass because Glenn or anyone else from I$ I'm sure would speak to you directly if you contacted them.

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First off, Glenn is out of the country. Though I know this is difficult for most of you to fathom but people do have a life outside of GFY and people who can travel and live an international lifestyle, do just that.

Second, regardless of what most of you asses *think* you know, Glenn is one of the most straight up guys in the business. I work on both sides of it (DVD and online) and have done this job full time for 13 years now, Glenn is as straight as they come and is one of the most honest people I've met in the industry.

So before you all jump on the "anti I$" bandwagon, you need to know your facts and not just what you hear on GFY from others who don't know what they are talking about. If you don't know him, don't attack him. If you have a problem with their business model, get off your lazy asses and go talk to him or anyone else from the company next month in Vegas. Though I'm going to bet not a single one of you will do so and 3/4 of you don't have the money to go there in the first place.

Further more (and I do NOT speak for Incredible Dollars) and this is my personal opinion, but I don't feel any explanation is due. Who are you? If you "need to know" you would have already contacted them directly instead of crying on a message boards, often behind fake nicks. If it was a real issue for you and not a bandwagon witch hunt, you would have already asked the questions you are curious about while speaking to any of the company owners or reps directly. All who post here are just showing their ass because Glenn or anyone else from I$ I'm sure would speak to you directly if you contacted them.

How many times have you thought someone was "honest" and it's turned out they weren't? Do you sit in on the internal I$ meetings? Do you look over any of their shoulders to see what they ACTUALLY do?

Glen has been actually sent emails (and his people have been informed as well) asking for him to make a public statment about all of this.. The answer at the time was that he was traveling but would be able to answer in a few hours.. It's been a couple days now I think.

As for what we all "think" we know, we know what TG and QBs have said in their public statements. I'm not going to say anymore on this board since it censors this information, but if you want to know why people are wanting some answers from I$, then you should go read those statments and look at the screen caps of the transactions that had gone thru etc. and come to your own conclusions. This ISN'T about doing cross sales.
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How many times have you thought someone was "honest" and it's turned out they weren't? Do you sit in on the internal I$ meetings? Do you look over any of their shoulders to see what they ACTUALLY do?

Glen has been actually sent emails (and his people have been informed as well) asking for him to make a public statment about all of this.. The answer at the time was that he was traveling but would be able to answer in a few hours.. It's been a couple days now I think.

As for what we all "think" we know, we know what TG and QBs have said in their public statements. I'm not going to say anymore on this board since it censors this information, but if you want to know why people are wanting some answers from I$, then you should go read those statments and look at the screen caps of the transactions that had gone thru etc. and come to your own conclusions. This ISN'T about doing cross sales.
I still don't think an explanation is needed. I personally would not explain myself to anyone on GFY for how I manage a business. Truth be told, most of you are hardly even webmasters let alone someone I would ever feel the need to "answer" to.

Perhaps he will reply when he is home and I do hope with every fiber of my being that his reply is, "Mind your own business."
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I still don't think an explanation is needed. I personally would not explain myself to anyone on GFY for how I manage a business. Truth be told, most of you are hardly even webmasters let alone someone I would ever feel the need to "answer" to.

Perhaps he will reply when he is home and I do hope with every fiber of my being that his reply is, "Mind your own business."
You don't think he should give anyone an explanation? So no company owes any of us any explanation for how they do things even if it might be illegal? Or, in the case of it being thought that they are doing something illegal than addressing the issue? If you really believe that then why did you even bother calling out SilverCash?

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=867748
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=867758

Is it because you don't do business with them but in this case I$ pays you to shoot content for them and so you've more than likely had some beers with them?

Do you even know what issue is of concern here?
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I still don't think an explanation is needed. I personally would not explain myself to anyone on GFY for how I manage a business. Truth be told, most of you are hardly even webmasters let alone someone I would ever feel the need to "answer" to.

Perhaps he will reply when he is home and I do hope with every fiber of my being that his reply is, "Mind your own business."
I am a webmaster and I sure would like to know whats going on. From what I can tell lots of shady biz going on there and I don't want to send another join to people that are killing this industry on my behalf.
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I am a webmaster and I sure would like to know whats going on. From what I can tell lots of shady biz going on there and I don't want to send another join to people that are killing this industry on my behalf.
They're not killing it on your behalf, they're killing it on theirs.

They just end up fucking us all over, that's all.
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I am a webmaster and I sure would like to know whats going on. From what I can tell lots of shady biz going on there and I don't want to send another join to people that are killing this industry on my behalf.
If you are an affiliate and you want to know something, then contact them or any of the companies directly. I make the effort to get to know every company owner or high up rep that I work with. If I have a problem, I call them directly. That is my point. Why can't any of you do that?

This message board witch hunt shit is amateur hour.
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they have people running all over the web trying to get every program that will hear it to put up their cross sales. the motives are clear.
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You don't think he should give anyone an explanation? So no company owes any of us any explanation for how they do things even if it might be illegal? Or, in the case of it being thought that they are doing something illegal than addressing the issue? If you really believe that then why did you even bother calling out SilverCash?
When is it your business how a company operates? Either you send them traffic or you don't. You are not in the processing business, you are in the traffic business. YOU SEND TRAFFIC. So send it or don't. Let them worry about how they conduct their business. If you don't like that, don't promote any of these companies.

In regards to SilverCash, there is not a case of "maybe" they are doing something wrong. They flat out support copyright violation and content theft. They ignore my requests, I take it to the boards. They were directly supporting the theft of MY content. Not yours, not some guys, but mine. I was directly involved as I am in the content business and that was my content.

My guess is you have not even personally contacted any of the company owners in regards to all of this. Once you exhaust that option with no reply, then and only then should it be OK to go public with it. But I still don't think how they process has anything to do with your traffic. Either send it or don't.

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Is it because you don't do business with them but in this case I$ pays you to shoot content for them and so you've more than likely had some beers with them?

Do you even know what issue is of concern here?
I am an affiliate as well as a content producer for them. My business is CONTENT AND TRAFFIC. I let them deal with billing, processing and banking. That is not my job. If it ever becomes a content or traffic issue, it would then become my problem.

Thus bringing me to the end of all of this and that is, I don't care what the concern is (even though I do understand what you are all curious about). It is none of my business. My business is content and traffic.

My point is this... contact them directly and stop being a cry baby about it. All of you. Why don't you have direct access to the people at the highest level of the sites you promote? Your questions would already be answered if you did. I wouldn't promote any company that refused me such access.

There are people who get shit done and there are people who hear about people who get shit done and wonder how they do it. Who you are is up to you. Make yourself important, know who you have to talk to and get shit done. Which ever you decide to do, attacking Glenn as a person is out of line here.
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If you are an affiliate and you want to know something, then contact them or any of the companies directly. I make the effort to get to know every company owner or high up rep that I work with. If I have a problem, I call them directly. That is my point. Why can't any of you do that?

This message board witch hunt shit is amateur hour.
I work with 50+ affiliate programs in adult, plus another 20+ in mainstream. I don?t have time to ?get to know? them on that level.
Oh, and next time homeland security gets to do cavity search on your ass in LAX do me a favor, get to know them personally, cause that?s what I would do.
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they have people running all over the web trying to get every program that will hear it to put up their cross sales. the motives are clear.
If anyone has other motives in porn other than making money and getting some ass here and there, I'd like to hear about it.
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If you are an affiliate and you want to know something, then contact them or any of the companies directly. I make the effort to get to know every company owner or high up rep that I work with. If I have a problem, I call them directly. That is my point. Why can't any of you do that?

This message board witch hunt shit is amateur hour.
Try seeing if you can get in contact with with him then and tell him about a bunch of webmaster looking for an answer if you think it THAT easy. I'm very much looking into what he had to say. I'm sure there's a bunch of people already tired to contact him - unsuccessfully.

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I work with 50+ affiliate programs in adult, plus another 20+ in mainstream. I don?t have time to ?get to know? them on that level.
I've been working in adult for 13 years. I've working with 100s of companies and made it my business to know who I had to deal with to get shit done.

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Oh, and next time homeland security gets to do cavity search on your ass in LAX do me a favor, get to know them personally, cause that?s what I would do.
I did make this happen and through the help of one of my attorneys, I now have the personal cell number of the head of immigration at LAX. I've already been taking out of the system and he will be looking after me upon my next entry.

I have a problem, I find a solution.
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Try seeing if you can get in contact with with him then and tell him about a bunch of webmaster looking for an answer if you think it THAT easy. I'm very much looking into what he had to say. I'm sure there's a bunch of people already tired to contact him - unsuccessfully.
It is that easy if you've made a little effort.

Did it ever occur to any of you that sometimes it takes some time to put together a statement for such a board full of dip shits?

Yea, some are respectful here but most of them hide behind fake nicks and will be taking cheap shots every other post. That is what's lame.
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I've been working in adult for 13 years. I've working with 100s of companies and made it my business to know who I had to deal with to get shit done.

But we all run our business differently so whatever works for you.




I did make this happen and through the help of one of my attorneys, I now have the personal cell number of the head of immigration at LAX. I've already been taking out of the system and he will be looking after me upon my next entry.

I have a problem, I find a solution.

Sure you do, thats why I fly B-2 to get my Molson beer in Surrey 'cause its 1 dollar cheaper.

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I work with 50+ affiliate programs in adult, plus another 20+ in mainstream. I don?t have time to ?get to know? them on that level.
Oh, and next time homeland security gets to do cavity search on your ass in LAX do me a favor, get to know them personally, cause that?s what I would do.
Easy big guy. We don't need anybody getting anally ripped at the airport. lol
I promote over 400 programs and I pretty much have taken the time to get to know all of them. And I did it while running REAL TGP's (not those cookie cutter fake ones), a paysite, and an affiliate program of my own. It's what I do. I wouldn't feel like I was really doing my job if I didn't take time to know them. So before we sacrifice DirtyWhiteBoy to the anal nazi's at the airport, let's give him the benefit of the argument on that point. I and many, many others do take time to meet and get to know the people we do business with. It's not a 100% neccessity as you are doing just fine without doing that. But a lot of us feel we do even better for ourselves doing business with a little face time too.
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[QUOTE=Robbie;15170092]Easy big guy. We don't need anybody getting anally ripped at the airport. lol

agreed let the lapd earn their money
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NOW we are making progress!!!!


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Sure you do, thats why I fly B-2 to get my Molson beer in Surrey 'cause its 1 dollar cheaper.
I'll let you know the next time I fly into LAX if you would like. You can come and meet me there, watch me breeze through.
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I'll let you know the next time I fly into LAX if you would like. You can come and meet me there, watch me breeze through.
hit me up on ICQ please
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Easy big guy. We don't need anybody getting anally ripped at the airport. lol
I promote over 400 programs and I pretty much have taken the time to get to know all of them. And I did it while running REAL TGP's (not those cookie cutter fake ones), a paysite, and an affiliate program of my own. It's what I do. I wouldn't feel like I was really doing my job if I didn't take time to know them. So before we sacrifice DirtyWhiteBoy to the anal nazi's at the airport, let's give him the benefit of the argument on that point. I and many, many others do take time to meet and get to know the people we do business with. It's not a 100% neccessity as you are doing just fine without doing that. But a lot of us feel we do even better for ourselves doing business with a little face time too.
What did you do and how did you get to know them Robbie? All 400 of them. I talked to you for less than 5 minutes in Atlanta and I dont think I know you any better than some guy named Fak U Dick from Long Shit, China.
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What did you do and how did you get to know them Robbie? All 400 of them. I talked to you for less than 5 minutes in Atlanta and I dont think I know you any better than some guy named Fak U Dick from Long Shit, China.
I ran Ampland.Com for almost 10 years and made millions of dollars for a lot of people with a lot of really good traffic. It was pretty easy to get to know them. And if you didn't talk to me for longer than 5 minutes then I'm sure you don't know me. But you should. We can make money together. And I like that.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:28 PM   #36
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If you ever need a ride on my B-2 from Surrey, BC to any part of the world meet me at 45902 King George Hwy at 6.am on first Thursday of each month. Wear something red with beaver logo on it. Its our national animal, hope you know. Do you research.
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prediction: gov makes examples out of people doing the things that people are doing.
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prediction: gov makes examples out of people doing the things that people are doing.
I sure hope not. The government is never a good thing to have involved in our business.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:42 PM   #39
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I ran Ampland.Com for almost 10 years and made millions of dollars for a lot of people with a lot of really good traffic. It was pretty easy to get to know them. And if you didn't talk to me for longer than 5 minutes then I'm sure you don't know me. But you should. We can make money together. And I like that.
Bro, I know what you do and who you are. Your tight pants and tanktops are legendary!
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CONFIRMED.... Glenn is out of the country and is in a place with bad internet.

I know the place where he is and can also confirm he is lucky to have any online access at all.
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Old 12-09-2008, 11:45 PM   #42
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It is that easy if you've made a little effort.

Did it ever occur to any of you that sometimes it takes some time to put together a statement for such a board full of dip shits?

Yea, some are respectful here but most of them hide behind fake nicks and will be taking cheap shots every other post. That is what's lame.
Like I said in my first post, if you saying it EASY, why don't YOU get in contact with Glen and tell him about this post. A lot of people had put more than a just a little effort to try to get an explanation.

Speaking of time, for Christ sake, people have been requesting responses for weeks.

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Speaking of time, for Christ sake, people have been requesting responses for weeks.
Huh? Didn't the whole Traffic Gigolos post just happen at the end of last week when their stats were leaked? What response were you requesting for weeks? Last time Glenn was in country he posted here about I$ AVN nomination this year. That was just a couple of weeks ago.
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Like I said in my first post, if you saying it EASY, why don't YOU get in contact with Glen and tell him about this post. A lot of people had put more than a just a little effort to try to get an explanation.

Speaking of time, for Christ sake, people have been requesting responses for weeks.

So now show us your awesomeness and get him here on gfy.
Did you not read my last post?

I DID just speak to him. He is out of the country and not somewhere he can just hop on GFY.
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I sure hope not. The government is never a good thing to have involved in our business.
Allow people in our industry to fuck over the consumers (OUR customers) and the government WILL get involved. It's only a matter of time.
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Allow people in our industry to fuck over the consumers (OUR customers) and the government WILL get involved. It's only a matter of time.
Hopefully not. I know all the guys that did the dialer scam walked away with hundreds of millions, and all that happened was the govt. tightened up laws on phone billing. Oh well, maybe you're right and the govt. will come in and we'll all get screwed.
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I have a curvy penis....
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LOL nice way to end some tension in this thread
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Yes you do...
Hey, are you in Amsterdam yet?
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I DID just speak to him. He is out of the country and not somewhere he can just hop on GFY.
I doubt that's true, but even if it is, I don't think he want to response.
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