Pirate Bay breaks own record with 25 million unique peers

[gideongallery]

they went from 20 million to 25 million in two weeks

and they are now going to apply to the Guinness book of world records which should give them a lot of extra free publicity.

i wonder how big they will be by the end of the year.

http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...-surge-081115/

[Klen]

Who cares.......

[Iron Fist]

which should give them a lot of extra free publicity.

Seems like your doing a good job in that department yourself as well.

[hjnet]

I'm gonna apply for the Guiness Book too with my sites, seems like a good way for free promo. Just need a suitable category.....

[Barefootsies]

Who cares.......

[Basic_man]

Who cares.......

Content producers and site marketers... witch of course you're not !

[Jens Van Assterdam]

Great more money in the bank. Keep on rocking.
Everything has 2 sides ya know ;)

[Barefootsies]

Content producers and site marketers... witch of course you're not !

Um yeah clueless nig.

You obviously have no clue who you are talking to.

Typical GFY troll.... fucking classic comedy.

[gideongallery]

Seems like your doing a good job in that department yourself as well.

well you have to remember that 1/2 of this traffic is people downloading tv shows (timeshifting) that they missed when it aired on tv.

that has been legal since the betamax ruling that created the vcr/pvr/dvr industry.

using torrents to accomplish that same functionality is legal.

[Barefootsies]

well you have to remember that 1/2 of this traffic is people downloading tv shows (timeshifting) that they missed when it aired on tv.

[Roald]

Great replies though LOL

It’s even more than the population of the USA if you only count the people with an IQ above room temperature (Fahrenheit).

[CIVMatt]

Congrats?

[Robbie]

Woooo-hoooo! Break out the champagne! Almost 25 million teenage boys without credit cards downloading complete members areas! whoopty-doo You know those guys at Pirate Bay are just praying that somebody buys them out before international laws get passed to shut them down. Those pre-paid adspots can't be keeping up that well with the overhead there.

[biskoppen]

There's not a single soul at GFY.COM using Pirate Bay!

[Kudles]

Thanks for sharing

[farkedup]

There's not a single soul at GFY.COM using Pirate Bay!

[gideongallery]

from 2007 (done by sumotorrent.com)




and a second study by the mpaa found that it was closer to 60% (of course they argued that it represented lost sales to the dvd boxed sets for the seasons)

[Barefootsies]

from 2007 (done by sumotorrent.com)




and a second study by the mpaa found that it was closer to 60% (of course they argued that it represented lost sales to the dvd boxed sets for the seasons)

Give it up nig.

You always post this bullshit to get people riled up on this same crock. No other reason.

[gideongallery]

Give it up nig.

You always post this bullshit to get people riled up on this same crock. No other reason.

interesting post considering you are one of the people who keep saying that 99% of the people using torrents do so to "steal" copyrighted material.

At least my numbers are backed up by independent studies.

Hell even the mpaa studies backs up the numbers i am giving you.

[abadfish]

I download tv show torrents almost daily. I used to have tivo when I had sat but now that I have cable I do not... they want to charge me another $15 on top of the $100 I already pay a month for their shitty dvr. Instead I just download the shows I miss and watch them when I want.

[psbfo]

I'm gonna apply for the Guiness Book too with my sites, seems like a good way for free promo. Just need a suitable category.....

Best conversion ratios
Biggest membership base
Most multinational membership base
Most expensive porn site
Shortest-lived porn site
Pretty much anything you can have the most, least, biggest, smallest, dirtiest, most hairy or wettest of... it's porn, the sky's the limit!
Or you can always go for the dubious honor of the 'most credit card chargebacks in a month' category.

[Robbie]

from 2007 (done by sumotorrent.com)

At least my numbers are backed up by independent studies.

SumoTorrent is an "independent" study? gideongallery you are still full of shit.

And as far as the mpaa...they have NO idea what the statistics are. The ONLY people who would know would be the owners of p.b. themselves. And they aren't exactly putting their stats out for public display. If it's all people just watching t.v. shows (which by the way, most networks now replay their own shows on their websites), then how come they have to have all these PORN companies ads all over them paying the bills?

Why in the world would some housewife who just wanted to see todays' episode of "The View" be interested in meeting "A local girl from ~insert your neighborhood here~"

Bro, we've already been round and round and round. You just go ahead and keep reading your "facts" from Wikipedia and those of us in this business will continue to live in the real world.

[gideongallery]

SumoTorrent is an "independent" study? gideongallery you are still full of shit.

the study was done by a university professor using sumotorrent data
ok
where exactly is your 99% are using it to steal number comming from. (out of your ass)

And as far as the mpaa...they have NO idea what the statistics are. The ONLY people who would know would be the owners of p.b. themselves. And they aren't exactly putting their stats out for public display.

your right it not like the bittorrent trackers feed that info directly to the clients that connect to the swarm
oh wait they do

If it's all people just watching t.v. shows (which by the way, most networks now replay their own shows on their websites),

your so right pvr/dvr/vcr should all be illegal now too since we don't really need them
it not like we want to watch our shows when we are not connected to the network
it not like i would just set the torrent list and let them download overnight so they are ready when i wake up the next day
it not like i want to have a hd quality viewing experience that crappy streamed version is good enough.

then how come they have to have all these PORN companies ads all over them paying the bills?

Why in the world would some housewife who just wanted to see todays' episode of "The View" be interested in meeting "A local girl from ~insert your neighborhood here~"

maybe because the top ten shows look like this

1 Heroes
2 Prison Break
3 Dexter
4 House M.D.
5 Desperate Housewives
6 Smallville
7 Grey's Anatomy
8 Entourage
9 Gossip Girl
10 South Park

mainly guy audience shows

or maybe because torrent require a higher technical expertise then the grandma who is watching "the view" would have.

do a search for the view on pirate bay

http://thepiratebay.org/search/the%20view/0/99/0
you get the no results and the default display of the most recent torrents loaded instead

do a search for heroes
http://thepiratebay.org/search/heroes/0/99/0

and you get tons of listing for the show.

So your arguement is that i am going to pick a show that is not even listed and ignore the shows are listed to make my point.

18-34 75% male (even higher because of the technical aspect) demographic heroes watcher would be interested in meeting a hot girl in his area

your arguement is the eqivalent of me saying that heroes has no tv viewers because they don't have an tampon ads showing during the airing.

Bro, we've already been round and round and round. You just go ahead and keep reading your "facts" from Wikipedia and those of us in this business will continue to live in the real world.

right it not like those publically available stats are based on anything in the real world.

i have pulled my stats from multiple sources including screenshots from my own utorrent client

i am not just pulling numbers out of my ass (99% of the people using torrents are stealing)

[seeandsee]

larger every day

[Robbie]

yes gideongallery you ARE pulling numbers out of your ass. Not one of those numbers can be proven in any way shape or form. I will repeat... the ONLY person who knows the numbers are the people that own the torrent site. Period.

And despite their bravado, they are facing a lot of legal issues. They are one international law away from getting nailed and they know it. So they aren't gonna tell you their real stats.

And "the study was done by a university professor using sumotorrent data"

Really? A "university professor"?

Think about that Mr. Wikipedia. I can go over to the local community college and get a "university professor" to say something too.

Or better yet, I could just write my own stats, post them, and give credit to Professor Jones (or any other professor I want to make up)

Or should I go with what you are saying? A torrent site...on the very edge of legality, and who knows it...just emails their site stats (which, since you are NOT in this business you wouldn't understand that is very confidential) over to some university where a highly respected "professor" takes these statistics and analyzes them. Then sends back the results to sumotorrent (because somehow they are too dumb to read their own tracking data)

Okay gideongallery. Okay.

[tranza]

Wow, that's amazing.

[gideongallery]

yes gideongallery you ARE pulling numbers out of your ass. Not one of those numbers can be proven in any way shape or form. I will repeat... the ONLY person who knows the numbers are the people that own the torrent site. Period.

And despite their bravado, they are facing a lot of legal issues. They are one international law away from getting nailed and they know it. So they aren't gonna tell you their real stats.

And "the study was done by a university professor using sumotorrent data"

Really? A "university professor"?

Think about that Mr. Wikipedia. I can go over to the local community college and get a "university professor" to say something too.

Or better yet, I could just write my own stats, post them, and give credit to Professor Jones (or any other professor I want to make up)

Or should I go with what you are saying? A torrent site...on the very edge of legality, and who knows it...just emails their site stats (which, since you are NOT in this business you wouldn't understand that is very confidential) over to some university where a highly respected "professor" takes these statistics and analyzes them. Then sends back the results to sumotorrent (because somehow they are too dumb to read their own tracking data)

Okay gideongallery. Okay.

the mpaa numbers were gotten from the torrent client
the numbers were the publically displayed numbers from the swarm density
the problem with bit torrents it is a distributed network of computers which each send out data to all the other peers in the swarm
by default you can't hide your numbers since the number of seeder/leachers is exactly what you need to create the swarm.

If you hide seeders then leachers have nothing to connect too, once a leacher takes even a single piece they become seeders (ergo other leachers have nothing to connect too).

your an idiot if you think i need to have direct access to the server stats get an idea about how many times a file is traded on the swarm. IF that was true then the mpaa could not sue any torrent site, because they would not know how many times each file is downloaded.

In the case of the university professor who wrote the report all he would have to do is subscribe to the rss feed that came from sumotorrents.com, write a small script that recorded the number of downloads reported by the tracker during the seeding practise and he would have numbers as accurate as what the court recognized in the MPAA suits.

That the point sumotorrent didn't need to give the professor a god dam thing. The professor used sumotorrent as a data source because it has the rss feed subscription option but does not filter submitted torrents (no porn on mininova).

[Lamis]

Thanks for sharing

How much did you pay for those FAKE SLUTTY ugly tits ??

[tony286]

guys if you didnt bite when he started threads, he wouldnt post them anymore. it wouldnt be fun.

[Robbie]

You got me on that gideongallery. I'm not an idiot...but I'm completely ignorant of "seeders" and "leachers" Could care less. So maybe you're right on the money with these stats. My sincere apologies to you. You have to understand, I've never used a torrent site for any goddamn thing. I pay my own way, and have no need to steal, er...I mean "time shift"

Heck if I had known only 6% of people go to torrents to download porn it sure would have saved me a lot of worry.

Let's see...6% of 25 million Damn that's "only" 1.5 million a day. Cool! I'm glad you showed me the light gideongallery I've been such a fool...

[FreeOnes]

The site now tracks 25 million peers, which is more than the entire populations of Sweden, Norway, Finland, Iceland and Denmark combined.

Iceland. lol
There are only 300k people living there.
But on the other side, maybe all 300k are dowloading at the Pirate Bay, because they are in a huge recession and probably have nothing else to do. Maybe time for a SnowGathering to pump some money into their economy

[Paul Markham]

Woooo-hoooo! Break out the champagne! Almost 25 million teenage boys without credit cards downloading complete members areas! whoopty-doo You know those guys at Pirate Bay are just praying that somebody buys them out before international laws get passed to shut them down. Those pre-paid adspots can't be keeping up that well with the overhead there.

Will the economic downturn help us?

I always look to the effects and alternatives, sometimes right and sometimes wrong.

If the economic downturn gets bad advertising on sites that pirate, like Tubes and Torrents, might become less profitable. There might also be less companies spending money on ads and less people signing up to a dating or cam site. So will running a Tube or Torrent site become less profitable?

Asking the question and not making a statement.

[Paul Markham]

CD sales are down and falling still. The effect to the economy in the West is pert of why we will all need to tighten our belts in the next few years.

Rolling Stone article. and Herald Tribune article. Both show the real picture. But think beyond CD sales, think music stores closing, van drivers laid off, CD duplication plants closing. All because people refuse to pay for something.

Think even beyond that, music is only one thing people are stealing and it's not just kids today, it's adults as well and todays kids are tomorrows adults. Think Games, Programs, films, porn and DVDs all produced where? Not in China, India or any other third world country. They are all produced in the West. So someone saves money on a CD and buys a new coffee maker instead. A coffee maker made in China. It can be any product you can think of made in the Third World.

Someone in the West loses their job because people choose to steal a Western produced product and spend the money on an imported product. And the West is going into financial melt down because it does not produce enough and imports too much. So the bill is going to be paid.

As I said I think beyond the immediate situation.

Will World leaders allow this to continue? Would you if you saw $100 worth of goods being stolen that could be sold? Yes Gideon I pulled that figure out of the air to illustrate the point, it could be more.

[SomeCreep]

Software companies have flooded all that shit with so many viruses, it's insane.

[gideongallery]

Will the economic downturn help us?

I always look to the effects and alternatives, sometimes right and sometimes wrong.

If the economic downturn gets bad advertising on sites that pirate, like Tubes and Torrents, might become less profitable. There might also be less companies spending money on ads and less people signing up to a dating or cam site. So will running a Tube or Torrent site become less profitable?

Asking the question and not making a statement.

torrent sites have the cheapest ads rates around, if you happen to sell hard goods /non digital content there conversion rates are equal to or greater then traditional advertising.

I ordered an hp media vault because of an ad on a torrent site i go to. for a lot of people download tons of tv shows means they are running out of hard drive space, so selling something that solves a problem caused by the torrents (to much content) is a no brainer. I am surprised that more companies don't do it. However as the economy turns worse i suspect any lost sales will be replace with such products, as companies like hp are forced to loosen up their affiliate restrictions to get more business.

CD sales are down and falling still. The effect to the economy in the West is pert of why we will all need to tighten our belts in the next few years.

Rolling Stone article. and Herald Tribune article. Both show the real picture. But think beyond CD sales, think music stores closing, van drivers laid off, CD duplication plants closing. All because people refuse to pay for something.

digital distributed music is growing at an greater rate then album sales are dropping. What is lost is the revenue from forcing people to buy an album because they happen to like 3 songs. Now if you want 3 songs you buy three songs. Itunes still rapes the artist up the ass giving them only 9 cents out of the 99 cost of downloads. Band like radio head have proven that you can make more money letting consumers decide how much they can pay for a digitial download then trying to sell them an album under the ass raping the record companies give their artist. Radio head made more money by sending mailing to the guys who downloaded their album for free then they would have made from the royalties if they sold each one of those "customers" a full album under a standard record deal.

Think even beyond that, music is only one thing people are stealing and it's not just kids today, it's adults as well and todays kids are tomorrows adults. Think Games, Programs, films, porn and DVDs all produced where? Not in China, India or any other third world country. They are all produced in the West. So someone saves money on a CD and buys a new coffee maker instead. A coffee maker made in China. It can be any product you can think of made in the Third World.

Someone in the West loses their job because people choose to steal a Western produced product and spend the money on an imported product. And the West is going into financial melt down because it does not produce enough and imports too much. So the bill is going to be paid.

As I said I think beyond the immediate situation.

Will World leaders allow this to continue? Would you if you saw $100 worth of goods being stolen that could be sold? Yes Gideon I pulled that figure out of the air to illustrate the point, it could be more.

the point is what is the US going to do start a trade war, tear up free trade agreements. The US sells billions of dollars of products to china, those companies which produce those products in china have head offices in the states, employing people here as well.

You have to get all these countries, who don't have a music industry to protect to agree to cut their own throats for your benefit.

Draconian measures like taking down the site completely are not valid because a majority actions (TV shows+ tv aired video/movies) is a recognized fair use even under US laws.

Add the fact that some of the "piracy" is fully licienced (canadian piracy tax = all music downloads by canadians is legal) and a significant majority of the so called "stealing" is not illegal at all.

The solution is simple, like the vcr, the cable rebroadcast of tv signals, the printing press embrace the technology and make money from it.

Product placement
process monitization
branding bugs.

that the way to solve the problem, not praying for big brother government to step in and solve the problems for you.

[gideongallery]

And among the biggest, they say, was the labels' failure to address online piracy at the beginning by making peace with the first file-sharing service, Napster. "They left billions and billions of dollars on the table by suing Napster -- that was the moment that the labels killed themselves," says Jeff Kwatinetz, CEO of management company the Firm. "The record business had an unbelievable opportunity there. They were all using the same service. It was as if everybody was listening to the same radio station. Then Napster shut down, and all those 30 or 40 million people went to other [file-sharing services]."

from the article paul suggested reading

[pamon]

enjoy TPB, but sites like Mininova and EZTV.it make it so much easier to find the tv shows you need to DL. I just do that and it works. I'd be willing to pay an additional 20/mo for making this more "legal" but oh well.

[germ]

Porn producers should be less worried about TPB and more worried about the massive, "private" torrent trackers that focus solely on porn. Free registration and content from every members area you can think of. Full site rips too.

I'd venture to say that most of the people that look for porn specific torrents arent getting it from TPB. Although, I have no independent data to back that claim up.

[Klen]

enjoy TPB, but sites like Mininova and EZTV.it make it so much easier to find the tv shows you need to DL. I just do that and it works. I'd be willing to pay an additional 20/mo for making this more "legal" but oh well.

You can very easily buy and download episoded on itunes.

[Adult Insider Dave]

torrent sites have the cheapest ads rates around.

Ever convert a porn sale from it?

[Nordicprofits]

:/ ((((

[gideongallery]

enjoy TPB, but sites like Mininova and EZTV.it make it so much easier to find the tv shows you need to DL. I just do that and it works. I'd be willing to pay an additional 20/mo for making this more "legal" but oh well.

you do realize eztv.it uses the pirate bay trackers don't you
so when you use that site you are in fact using the pirate bay.

[gideongallery]

Porn producers should be less worried about TPB and more worried about the massive, "private" torrent trackers that focus solely on porn. Free registration and content from every members area you can think of. Full site rips too.

I'd venture to say that most of the people that look for porn specific torrents arent getting it from TPB. Although, I have no independent data to back that claim up.

that why the sumotorrent study i was talking about is so relevent, sumotorrent listed private tracker torrents as well. The act of submitting a private tracker torrent to a search engine like sumotorrent/mininova/isohunt is a really effective way to get new members.

the person downloads the torrent file but the file will not download until they login.
The error message tells them what site they need to go to signup. Ergo new free member.

while i am applying the percentages uniformally to pirate bay (statistically sampling rules) the fact is looking at the usage of bittorent the number of people "stealing" porn is not really that great, even with these private trackers.

[gideongallery]

Ever convert a porn sale from it?

torrent sites have the cheapest ads rates around, if you happen to sell hard goods /non digital content there conversion rates are equal to or greater then traditional advertising.

nope, but if you can tell me a hard goods/non digital content porn product to sell i will try it.

i have sold networked media tanks by buying cheap banner spots on mininova when i owned a partial interest in an isp.

Used the sales records to sell them isp services later (we had a reverse proxy on the datacenter so torrent traffic was local loop)

[germ]

that why the sumotorrent study i was talking about is so relevent, sumotorrent listed private tracker torrents as well. The act of submitting a private tracker torrent to a search engine like sumotorrent/mininova/isohunt is a really effective way to get new members.

the person downloads the torrent file but the file will not download until they login.
The error message tells them what site they need to go to signup. Ergo new free member.

while i am applying the percentages uniformally to pirate bay (statistically sampling rules) the fact is looking at the usage of bittorent the number of people "stealing" porn is not really that great, even with these private trackers.

I'm talking about the porn only torrent trackers. Thats what the people in this industry should be fighting. Those, and tube sites with full length videos. Oh...and rapidshare.

Knock those 3 out and you'll see sales skyrocket :]

[Agent 488]

that's a lot of timeshifting ........

[Fletch XXX]

interesting post considering you are one of the people who keep saying that 99% of the people using torrents do so to "steal" copyrighted material.

this is such horseshit.

Ive had Electronic Arts issue 2 gig game updates via torrents, just because luddites have no use for the technology doesnt mean its only used for theft.

[brassmonkey]