What are the current going rates for photo and video content?

[AmeliaG]

What are the current going rates for photo and video content?

What is the current pricing for an exclusive vs. nonexclusive video?
(Color corrected and edited to say a 10-20 minute scene)

What is the current pricing for an exclusive vs. nonexclusive photo set?
(Color corrected and retouched with bad images removed for a total of 60 to 70 pictures)

[Mutt]

it depends on the quality and type of content - an exclusive glamour photoset for Twistys is going to be triple what an amateur photoset for an amateur type site like Karups costs. An custom exclusive amateur type photoset ~100 images is $150, Twistys and MetArt pay about $500.

same thing goes for hardcore videos - an amateur type scene could cost $1500-2000 - if you want better in terms of location, talent, makeup it's about $3000

[Barefootsies]

Ask Jim Gunn.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Mutt

it depends on the quality and type of content - an exclusive glamour photoset for Twistys is going to be triple what an amateur photoset for an amateur type site like Karups costs. An custom exclusive amateur type photoset ~100 images is $150, Twistys and MetArt pay about $500.

same thing goes for hardcore videos - an amateur type scene could cost $1500-2000 - if you want better in terms of location, talent, makeup it's about $3000

more like 4k per scene from my sources...

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

more like 4k per scene from my sources...

What would you be including in there for $4k?

[sltr]

Originally Posted by Mutt

An custom exclusive amateur type photoset ~100 images is $150, Twistys and MetArt pay about $500.

i don't understand this #, can't even book a model for $150, let alone cover production cost or make a nickel. is this on top of prod costs???

[faxxaff]

I would think a decent shooter will ask for 1.5 to 2k US$ a day for his work plus expenses for the models and location. The rest would be up to your imagination.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by sltr

i don't understand this #, can't even book a model for $150, let alone cover production cost or make a nickel. is this on top of prod costs???

Presumably any good photog could shoot more than one set of a model during a session.

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by sltr

i don't understand this #, can't even book a model for $150, let alone cover production cost or make a nickel. is this on top of prod costs???

you need to learn how to work on an industrial level. Sell a part as bulk and another part exclusive .... choose your locations that it allows many different views without being recognizeable. Book multiple models for the same place, etc. It all does not sound like you can give creativity a lot of room (and from my experience) it does get a bit boring at times, but if you shoot 3 models a day with 10 sets .... you are the winner!

[sltr]

i see, thx for the clarification!

[sltr]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

you need to learn how to work on an industrial level. Sell a part as bulk and another part exclusive .... choose your locations that it allows many different views without being recognizeable. Book multiple models for the same place, etc. It all does not sound like you can give creativity a lot of room (and from my experience) it does get a bit boring at times, but if you shoot 3 models a day with 10 sets .... you are the winner!

i don't sell content.

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by sltr

i don't sell content.

Even if you just work for yourself it helps to see how you can get more sets for the effort and expenses you put into.

[sltr]

i'm more concerned with quality over quantity.

[faxxaff]

Originally Posted by sltr

i'm more concerned with quality over quantity.

you should be!

[DeanCapture]

Originally Posted by sltr

i'm more concerned with quality over quantity.

That's music to my ears

[Socks]

If it's for you Amelia, I will model for free. I warn you though, I'm rather hairy.

[NaughtyRob]

Depends what type of scene. I only charge $100-$200 per photo set and solo scene exclusive.

[faxxaff]

I know of some CDs and shemales who will pay you if thay can be your models

[sltr]

Originally Posted by DeanCapture

That's music to my ears

it's the one thing all successful sites have in common eh.

keep up the good work dean0!

[shadowsdrop]

wow! that's really expensive.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by shadowsdrop

wow! that's really expensive.

So what would Andrew Blake want for the same thing, exclusive or nonexclusive?

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Presumably any good photog could shoot more than one set of a model during a session.

Correct.

We shoot 8 scenes per. But we are not fancy, b/g, or nude.

[AmeliaG]

There must be more content providers and more content buyers here who have an opinion.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

There must be more content providers and more content buyers here who have an opinion.

Yep. There are. Here's a bump.

[Paul Markham]

If anyone is looking to buy content we are running a 50% off sale on both content stores.

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[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

There must be more content providers and more content buyers here who have an opinion.

You're asking a question like "What does a car cost?"

There's no single answer.

Or simple one.

[AllStar]

People are cheap.
There are cheap shooters.

People want good quality at reasonable prices.
There are reasonable shooters.

People want high quality and will pay for it.
There are shooters who will have to pay for the higher standard and charge for the expertise.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You're asking a question like "What does a car cost?"

There's no single answer.

Or simple one.

To get a fairly basic, unsexy, late model car is likely to run $10k to $20k. It is possible to get a car for less than $10k, as little as a few hundred dollars even, but it will generally be older, less dependable, and more likely to break down. If you are on a limited budget and have to get an older used car, I recommend budgeting around $1,500-2,500 to get something which more or less works and then knowing that you will have somewhat regular repair expenses and be prepared to pay around $100-300 in repairs every couple of months. If you want something you can roll up to the valet in and feel like a baller, there is a brisk price jump and you are probably looking at from around $50k to sky is the limit, although you can get some great deals right now on larger, less fuel-efficient rides. In between $20k and $50k, there is a range of cars which are commonly bought on time by people with consistent solid but not extravagant incomes. If you want a car people would consider nice, but you are not looking to impress particularly expensive women, then a car costs more than $20k but less than $50k.

[Socks]

I guess in the end you should plan our your project, set goals and timelines, budgets, and then armed with that information shop around the recommended exclusive content producers. If they fit your budget and it makes sense, give it a go. If you find the dollars don't add up in the search, then look at your non-exclusive options, and perhaps make a short list of producers you admire. Maybe a chat with them would land something more semi-exclusive.

[Penny24Seven]

depends on the girl. I could do hardcore for 500 easy. Anal too

[Paul Markham]

To get a fairly basic, unsexy, poor quality solo girl set and video will cost $300. It is possible to get a set and video for less than $300, as little as a one hundred dollars even, but it will generally be older, less dependable, and more likely to lose you money. If you are on a limited budget and have to get an older set and video, I recommend budgeting around $150-250 to get something which more or less works and then knowing that you will have somewhat spend more on traffic. If you want something that will set you apart, there is a brisk price jump and you are probably looking at from around $500 to sky is the limit, although you can get some great deals right now on larger, less busy shooters. In between $300 and $500, there is a range of set and video which are commonly bought on time by people with consistent solid but not extravagant incomes. If you want a set and video people would consider nice, but you are not looking to impress particularly discerning surfers, then a set and video costs more than $200 but less than $500.

Get the message?

You said nothing and neither did I.

[xxxfeetxxx]

If you're looking for raw, amateur POV video stuff then there are some great content producers out there working in parts of the world where it's cheaper to hire and shoot. If you're looking to get multiple scenes from one shoot then you could buy from around $150 per scene, depending on what exactly you want. If you want microniche stuff then exclusive is an effective way to get what your members want.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by AllStar

People are cheap.
There are cheap shooters.

People want good quality at reasonable prices.
There are reasonable shooters.

People want high quality and will pay for it.
There are shooters who will have to pay for the higher standard and charge for the expertise.

This post says it all. There are shooters who work for very little and shooters who want $1,000 a day plus all expenses. Hope this will give you some idea.

We shoot casting pictures for a telephone dating type site client. 30-40 pics for 40 Euros. Every girl with documents on a casting is suitable. We also shoot "Readers Wives" pics for UK magazines and earn about 200 GBP (British pounds) a set for non exclusive. Anyone who wants this level of work we will shoot for around these prices. A solo set and video scene the ceiling will be 200 Euros. If you want me to shoot a girl fucking her boyfriend in the studio 300 to 500 Euros will do it, including our money. Depends on models.

Had a phone call from a magazine client recently who want us to shoot "Penthouse" style set and video with top models and top locations scenes, sets and video. Model for the day minimum 350 Euros + agent 20%, make artist 150 Euros, location could be 200 Euros (yes we could shoot it in the studio but not what's required), clothing also has to be bought 200 Euros.

Total cost 1000 Euros, I added 30 for lunch LOL.

We will shoot two scenes so each scene will COST 500 Euros, the client will pay more. There will be a 5 man crew on the shoot. If you want this as a two girl add 520 Euros per girl. If you want it BG double the models costs and add 200 Euros per scene for a good boy. Don't even think of using a bad one in a scene like this. 1500 Euros cost. The total price depends on how much the shooters and models need the work.

At the moment content is not selling, exclusive or non exclusive so there are some good deals to be picked up. My advice is decide if you want content to fill the site or content to make the site. Give you content provider all the information you can and a fair price to shoot it. Tell him what you will pay and don't haggle like a Arab at a flea market.

So it's tough to give a price. Talk with the people you want to shoot it. Sadly after 8 years selling Internet content I feel most sponsors do not talk to the people they want shooting the content open enough. Probably trying to squeeze the price down. Remember someone will always shoot it cheaper.

[INever]

Can one haggle like a jew? :

[The Duck]

They differ. I hold the best prices in the industry.

[thebossxxx]

my guess industry average is about 3,000 for a full pic and video b/g scene these days..

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

At the moment content is not selling, exclusive or non exclusive so there are some good deals to be picked up. My advice is decide if you want content to fill the site or content to make the site. Give you content provider all the information you can and a fair price to shoot it. Tell him what you will pay and don't haggle like a Arab at a flea market.

Hey Paul, this right here is the reason I am asking the question. I want to offer a fair rate.

It may turn out that the current going rate for the type of content I would like is lower than what I'd be willing to pay. In that case, awesome and I'll just select a rate which is the high side of average and that will be the rate.

It may turn out that the current going rate for the type of content I would like is higher than my budget could easily do. In that case, I'd either be aware that I might have to do more post work on what I got in-house or whatever.

Please don't patronize me on the fact that it is easy to run up a shoot budget fast. I have personally done photography and/or writing for most all the big adult publishers including Playboy, Penthouse, Hustler, Crescent, Magna, and AVN. I know what they all used to pay, but I don't actually know what the current going rates tend to be and these things, as you surely know, change.

With your experience, I'm pretty sure you could, for example, ballpark that a babe shoot with x, y, and z for location and makeup, including x# pictures and x amount of video with x retouching and x for the final edit would run the client around x and so. Instead you whined about your expenses, which I would be totally interested in, if you were the producer on something I was personally shooting. Not so interesting from a client perspective unless the point is to get someone to stop asking for a freebie. Which I wasn't.

I could just make up rates that I think I could do a job for and pay that, but, if possible, I want to make sure what I am offering is in line with industry standards or at least be aware if it is not. So do you want to assist in expressing what would be fair and standard or do you want to complain that clients don't care what is fair and standard when you won't tell them?

What can I say to facilitate an answer to my question?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

What can I say to facilitate an answer to my question?

post examples of your work

[tranza]

It all depend!!

[sltr]

this thread reminds me of getting a tooth pulled

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by bm bradley

post examples of your work

Ah, I think I see where the disconnect is. I was annoyed at being patronized like, after running a media company since 1992, maybe I don't know that sometimes shoots cost something to produce. But my photography isn't really relevant to the question, except to the extent that I would hope to buy work of similar or greater quality.

I own and operate SpookyCash. I am looking to keep our pay rates current and possibly add more providers and formats of content. I want to have a better understanding of what current rates are for the type of content which is useful for my program.

More succinctly: I am looking to buy content at fair prices.

[JP-pornshooter]

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What can I say to facilitate an answer to my question?[/QUOTE]

one way would be to be specific as to what your requirements would be and also it would be fair to include your expectations as to the final product.

so it could be:
3 solo photo sets and 1 solo video
need glamour girl, blonde hair, natural large breasts, 18-25 of age with full explicit nudity and toy insertion etc.
expectation: high end glamour similar to suze randall

then competent producers would be able to quote the job.

[sltr]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Ah, I think I see where the disconnect is. I was annoyed at being patronized like, after running a media company since 1992, maybe I don't know that sometimes shoots cost something to produce. But my photography isn't really relevant to the question, except to the extent that I would hope to buy work of similar or greater quality.

I own and operate SpookyCash. I am looking to keep our pay rates current and possibly add more providers and formats of content. I want to have a better understanding of what current rates are for the type of content which is useful for my program.

More succinctly: I am looking to buy content at fair prices.

the intent of the thread was quite clear to me, what's not so clear is the vagueness from providers.

[Gillespie]

Originally Posted by faxxaff

you need to learn how to work on an industrial level. Sell a part as bulk and another part exclusive .... choose your locations that it allows many different views without being recognizeable. Book multiple models for the same place, etc. It all does not sound like you can give creativity a lot of room (and from my experience) it does get a bit boring at times, but if you shoot 3 models a day with 10 sets .... you are the winner!

I've seen this guy shoot 3 girls in a day in the same small place and come out with like 15 sets lol

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

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What can I say to facilitate an answer to my question?

one way would be to be specific as to what your requirements would be and also it would be fair to include your expectations as to the final product.

so it could be:
3 solo photo sets and 1 solo video
need glamour girl, blonde hair, natural large breasts, 18-25 of age with full explicit nudity and toy insertion etc.
expectation: high end glamour similar to suze randall

then competent producers would be able to quote the job.[/QUOTE]



Okie dokie. That makes sense. Taking another stab at it . . .

What are the current going rates for photo and video content, exclusive vs nonexclusive, of the following sort?

Performers need to be able to qualify as either babe, alt, goth, or tattoo niche. Performers do not have to be known names but exceptionally attractive or exceptionally striking is a must. Anyone extremely tan would probably be eliminated unless they were fabulously good-looking or very nicely tattooed. Ethnic is fine.

Clothing needs to be goth/punk, 50's vintage, casual cool, or fetish (latex, corsets, that kind of thing).

Setting/location can be amateur or pro in type, so long as lighting is pro style. Creative nonstandard lighting is fine, just not amateur.

Content does not have to be super explicit and can be anything from striptease to straight sex to fetish.

In terms of quality, lighting/editing must be very good, but resolution does not need to be particularly high. Like a minimum of 600x900 or 1200x800 for pics and 640x480 for video, maybe one size up from that for the video. Larger is fine of course.

Video must be color corrected and edited to say a 10-20 minute scene. A little bit longer for more explicit videos is fine, but not a lot longer. Trailer creation a plus but not required.

Photo sets must be color corrected and retouched with bad images removed for a total of 60 to 70 pictures on average, fewer images for very soft sets and more for very explicit ones.

Would most good content providers current working prefer to sell a video/photo set pair or the results of a whole day's shooting or just a video on its own and a photo set on its own? Folks with thoughts on pricing are welcome to quote in whatever content package format is currently most normal.

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by GetNaughty

Depends what type of scene. I only charge $100-$200 per photo set and solo scene exclusive.

Is this for each or combined?

I have no idea how you can make any money charging these rates

[INever]

The post-production you are looking for would add to the price, obviously.

[AllStar]

if you send me an email I can give you the rates for different stuff.
What is average for different markets...
info allstarcontent com

[Warren]

Hi Amelia, missed you in Vegas, can you hit me up when you get a min, thanks babe.

[JP-pornshooter]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

one way would be to be specific as to what your requirements would be and also it would be fair to include your expectations as to the final product.

so it could be:
3 solo photo sets and 1 solo video
need glamour girl, blonde hair, natural large breasts, 18-25 of age with full explicit nudity and toy insertion etc.
expectation: high end glamour similar to suze randall

then competent producers would be able to quote the job.

Okie dokie. That makes sense. Taking another stab at it . . .

What are the current going rates for photo and video content, exclusive vs nonexclusive, of the following sort?

Performers need to be able to qualify as either babe, alt, goth, or tattoo niche. Performers do not have to be known names but exceptionally attractive or exceptionally striking is a must. Anyone extremely tan would probably be eliminated unless they were fabulously good-looking or very nicely tattooed. Ethnic is fine.

Clothing needs to be goth/punk, 50's vintage, casual cool, or fetish (latex, corsets, that kind of thing).

Setting/location can be amateur or pro in type, so long as lighting is pro style. Creative nonstandard lighting is fine, just not amateur.

Content does not have to be super explicit and can be anything from striptease to straight sex to fetish.

In terms of quality, lighting/editing must be very good, but resolution does not need to be particularly high. Like a minimum of 600x900 or 1200x800 for pics and 640x480 for video, maybe one size up from that for the video. Larger is fine of course.

Video must be color corrected and edited to say a 10-20 minute scene. A little bit longer for more explicit videos is fine, but not a lot longer. Trailer creation a plus but not required.

Photo sets must be color corrected and retouched with bad images removed for a total of 60 to 70 pictures on average, fewer images for very soft sets and more for very explicit ones.

Would most good content providers current working prefer to sell a video/photo set pair or the results of a whole day's shooting or just a video on its own and a photo set on its own? Folks with thoughts on pricing are welcome to quote in whatever content package format is currently most normal.[/QUOTE]

getting a little complicated:

1. i looked at your sites, the type of content you are looking for is sort of different than most non-exclusive sets although you may check out sites like ounique et al for any usable non exclusive content which will be much more affordable.
2. most producers will want to have enough to do a half or full day shoot, meaning much more than one or two sets. say 5 sets/videos for a half day and double for full day.
3. softcore of hardcore?
4. that being said, i would think the prices would be apprx $1000-$1500 for a softcore shoot and double that if you want a video/set with hardcore.
5. it is all depending on the availability of models with the look you are interested in. there may be very few goth/alt models available which would make the rates higher.
6. lastly you may be so much in love with a specific producers work that you only want his/her work and are willing to pay a lot more than the "market rates"...

hope i helped you at least a little.