How much good affiliate manager should get paid?

[LB-69]

Just been wondering how much good affiliate manager in mid sized aff program should get paid monthly, and what is most important skills for him to have?

[Wizzo]

What's your definition of Affiliate Manager? I would say it could be from $24k up to $100+k a year depending on experience, knowledge, connections, and abilities.

[JamesK]

$99 a month + 0.1% company profit

[qxm]

commission based ..

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

What's your definition of Affiliate Manager? I would say it could be from $24k up to $100+k a year depending on experience, knowledge, connections, and abilities.

By my definition, Aff manager should be responsible for promoting the sites(connection to affiliates,planning and implementing promo campaigns and more). Now what from those is more important: knowledge, experience or connection? Or its a package?

[Wizzo]

Originally Posted by LB-69

Now what from those is more important: knowledge, experience or connection? Or its a package?

Personally, I think all 3 play a big part of a successful manager.

[TheDoc]

Out sourced: $18k - $22k a year plus a commission that can grow
In House: $22-$30k - with benefits no commission - without benefits then a lower commission.

A strong commission structure with low base pay helps bring in people that actually believe in your product and want to promote it.

[Vegas Ken]

I am of the opinion that if you find a high quality producer, you should pay them well. Good solid employees should be rewarded and highly prized.

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by Vegas Ken

I am of the opinion that if you find a high quality producer, you should pay them well. Good solid employees should be rewarded and highly prized.

i second that!

[Jim_Gunn]

This is an interesting question- I am trying to figure out the best way to hire an affiliate manager to run my upcoming affiliate program.

[FreeHugeMovies]

You should pay them a base and 10% commission.

Some things that make them good are.

They live on the computer and are motivated.
Fast typer and uses ICQ as a communication weapon.
Very persistant and funny.
Does more than post stupid pictures on GFY to get sig views.
And of course knows the adult industry very well

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by FreeHugeMovies

You should pay them a base and 10% commission.

Some things that make them good are.

They live on the computer and are motivated.
Fast typer and uses ICQ as a communication weapon.
Very persistant and funny.
Does more than post stupid pictures on GFY to get sig views.
And of course knows the adult industry very well

The question is where the hell would you find one that would fill your needs. I havent found one yet so i dont think I will ever hire one. Save the money and build your network.

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

The question is where the hell would you find one that would fill your needs. I havent found one yet so i dont think I will ever hire one. Save the money and build your network.

You must delegate some jobs to professional, quality staff, otherwise you will be buried with daily small things, instead of planning next moves and managing your team properly. One man show is short lived show(or one that will never reach its real potential).

[Nicky]

Hit me up on ICQ if you got an interesting job offer. I am over qualified

[Chef86]

You can find a lot of good hard workers for under 20k a year

[Boobs]

<---------------- available for work.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by LB-69

You must delegate some jobs to professional, quality staff, otherwise you will be buried with daily small things, instead of planning next moves and managing your team properly. One man show is short lived show(or one that will never reach its real potential).

I agree that I might never reach my full potential, but you are wrong about shortlived. I have ran both my program and manage over 500 domains myself, as well as send traffic hundreds of programs without every having an affiliate rep. I even design all of my sites myself as well. It is tedious and sometimes I wish I would have done more, but i cant complain.

I have went to a few shows and saw how productive the managers can be, but IMO that biz model is dying with some of the shows. Shit it took me four years to hire my first employee, which is all I need. Props to Iwebmasters!

I would like to beleive that someday I will find someone who could help in that area, I just think that anyone with the know how is most likely doing it themselves if you know what I mean.

[Validus]

Ho Ho Ho... *note to self* never work as affiliate manager for anybody!

I think a good affiliate manager, just like any other good manager should be getting 80K+. Got to pay good people good money!

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Validus

Ho Ho Ho... *note to self* never work as affiliate manager for anybody!

I think a good affiliate manager, just like any other good manager should be getting 80K+. Got to pay good people good money!

ha ha... i wonder how many programs even break 6 figures profit.

[Mike Semen]

I was an Affiliate Manager for 4 years overall in mainstream with a software company and a telecoms co in the UK. Been thinking about doing the same in adult, but I'm doubtful as to the rewards...

[Trixxxia]

An Affiliate Manager isn't just a 'board whore' -they need to know the business, have communication skills, know how to build loyalty and have some 'field' experience and in that I mean they need to know what an affiliate faces daily.


Here's a scenario:: A person can make 50-60k on their network with minimal supervision and see getting a job working for a program as an opportunity. They could be earning 30k + commissions (which that alone can = 100k) + some have benefits, bonuses, ability to make connections they wouldn't with their own network + get to go to all shows for the company (at not cost to them). Not every Affiliate Rep is/was a failure in their own attempt. Just FYI.


LB-69, in your particular case, if you plan on sticking to the same niche, you are best off hiring one of your top 10 affiliates (allow them to maintain what they are doing on their own time and let them help others with their expertise). They would know the target market and be helpful to your affiliates. If your plan is to move onto other niches, then get someone who knows your primary niche well and smart enough to apply the same base theory to other niches.

By offering a good base + commission setup you are going to keep them motivated to find affiliates like themselves. They'll better sell your product and help your other affiliates more (cuz they will make more with better affiliates). The more incentive your Affiliate Manager has, the harder they work & the more motivated they are.

My

[monstergalleriesdotnet]

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[mn]

low base rate and % of profit is the way to go

[shuki]

Originally Posted by LB-69

Just been wondering how much good affiliate manager in mid sized aff program should get paid monthly, and what is most important skills for him to have?

What day to day things would you want and expect from your affil manager?

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Trixxxia

LB-69, in your particular case, if you plan on sticking to the same niche, you are best off hiring one of your top 10 affiliates (allow them to maintain what they are doing on their own time and let them help others with their expertise). They would know the target market and be helpful to your affiliates. If your plan is to move onto other niches, then get someone who knows your primary niche well and smart enough to apply the same base theory to other niches.

My

Good advice. But what if you own your niche allready?

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Trixxxia

An Affiliate Manager isn't just a 'board whore' -they need to know the business, have communication skills, know how to build loyalty and have some 'field' experience and in that I mean they need to know what an affiliate faces daily.


Here's a scenario:: A person can make 50-60k on their network with minimal supervision and see getting a job working for a program as an opportunity. They could be earning 30k + commissions (which that alone can = 100k) + some have benefits, bonuses, ability to make connections they wouldn't with their own network + get to go to all shows for the company (at not cost to them). Not every Affiliate Rep is/was a failure in their own attempt. Just FYI.


LB-69, in your particular case, if you plan on sticking to the same niche, you are best off hiring one of your top 10 affiliates (allow them to maintain what they are doing on their own time and let them help others with their expertise). They would know the target market and be helpful to your affiliates. If your plan is to move onto other niches, then get someone who knows your primary niche well and smart enough to apply the same base theory to other niches.

By offering a good base + commission setup you are going to keep them motivated to find affiliates like themselves. They'll better sell your product and help your other affiliates more (cuz they will make more with better affiliates). The more incentive your Affiliate Manager has, the harder they work & the more motivated they are.

My

In 99% affiliate managers are nothing else nothing more then just board whores.

[a1ka1ine]

Originally Posted by LB-69

Now what from those is more important: knowledge, experience or connection? Or its a package?

if they have the knowledge and experience, along with good connections, then they are a very small step away from running their own affiliate programme and keeping 100%!!

but in short, the person who said hire one of your top 10 affiliates because they know the niche, great advice! they have already proven success in your business and would be the perfect person to take your biz further!

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by Trixxxia

LB-69, in your particular case, if you plan on sticking to the same niche, you are best off hiring one of your top 10 affiliates (allow them to maintain what they are doing on their own time and let them help others with their expertise). They would know the target market and be helpful to your affiliates. If your plan is to move onto other niches, then get someone who knows your primary niche well and smart enough to apply the same base theory to other niches.

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We are pretty well established in our niche, but I see its different from other niches or from mainstream. Aff manager should be well known and recognized in adult industry, and oversee it as a whole IMHO.

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by shuki

What day to day things would you want and expect from your affil manager?

Its will be a pretty long list, but here are some basics:
1. Communicate with existing affiliates by emails/icq and bring new ones.
2. Plan/Oversee/Implement promo campaigns both for affiliates and customers
3. Check and balance on sales, cb, refunds etc
4. Communicate with our support department
5. Be active on adult webmaster boards
6. Looking for new technological advances in adult industry, billings, customer solutions etc.
7. Plan new sites and generate additional profit with existing sites of the program.
8. Be aware to copyrights violations of program content, and take steps to remove pirated content.

And more........

[Trixxxia]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Good advice. But what if you own your niche allready?

Depends what you want to do - capture more of your market or move onto others? You'll need someone with 'hands-on' experience, having done the work, who has experience and can make connections <-- that is a given.

Now if you want to capture more of your market - better to hire someone in it who's capable enough to look in other markets and bring them in.

If you are looking to expand in other niches, then you need someone who's more connected and experienced in a 'general/variety' niches.

[CuriousToyBoy]

It never ceases to amaze me just how many reps there are that have never set a hit nor a join in their lives.

We reached a point some time ago when it became apparent that more people in it had never made one brass razoo in this business before scoring jobs selling to those that have.

2c

Originally Posted by LB-69

By my definition, Aff manager should be responsible for promoting the sites(connection to affiliates,planning and implementing promo campaigns and more). Now what from those is more important: knowledge, experience or connection? Or its a package?

A good affiliate manager with longevity needs to have the full package. It amazes me how many people think affiliate managers are just monkeys who sing, dance and whore it up. What a true manager should be is a person that knows the business inside and out, has connections to get the site(s) exposure on as many sites as possible, and can get his affiliates the tools they need in a timely manner.

In this business, we deal with people from around the world, so communication is key. You need to know how to interact with people who don't speak english as a first language, you need to know how their business works to send traffic, and you need to make them feel comfortable when promoting your product. In the end, the affiliate manager should be the middleman to get traffic to the program using his/her connections, and they are responsible for giving his/her affiliates the tools they need to see the best conversions.

As for pay, it all depends on what the manager brings to the table. Do they do many other tasks? Do they oversee a staff? Do they assist in managing internal traffic as well? Do they contribute to the online community in a way that reflects positively on the company in which they represent?

So far, Wizzo has hit the nail on the head. You ALWAYS get what you pay for. Too low and you'll have managers in and out of your company as if it had a revolving door installed. Too high and the profit margin is reduced for the owner. If the salary/commission is set in a beneficial spot for the owner(s) and manager with room for growth, you'll see a manager staying with the company for many years..if not eventually moving up as a partner, or taking more of an executive roll atop the program hierarchy.

As with any business, "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" holds ground.

[Gordon G]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

In 99% affiliate managers are nothing else nothing more then just board whores.

Says the biggest board whore on here.

[DatingGold]

Originally Posted by LB-69

Its will be a pretty long list, but here are some basics:
1. Communicate with existing affiliates by emails/icq and bring new ones.
2. Plan/Oversee/Implement promo campaigns both for affiliates and customers
3. Check and balance on sales, cb, refunds etc
4. Communicate with our support department
5. Be active on adult webmaster boards
6. Looking for new technological advances in adult industry, billings, customer solutions etc.
7. Plan new sites and generate additional profit with existing sites of the program.
8. Be aware to copyrights violations of program content, and take steps to remove pirated content.

And more........

Sounds more like a COO than a Affiliate Manager

[Bake]

I have thought about doing this type of job
I dont want to run my own paysites as setting up billing from were I live is not easy plus Im big believer in content is king and I dont wish to make my own.
and I need something fresh to do.

[ladida]

Originally Posted by DatingGold

Sounds more like a COO than a Affiliate Manager

Agreed. And someone that would be doing him all that would be payed alot more then an Affiliate manager.

Never ceases to amaze me of some people's expectations.

[fuckingfuck]

If you have a PhD?

[The Judge]

Pimping Hoes Degree

Originally Posted by fuckingfuck

If you have a PhD?

[datatank]

Originally Posted by DatingGold

Sounds more like a COO than a Affiliate Manager

I was going to post the exact same thing

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by ladida

Agreed. And someone that would be doing him all that would be payed alot more then an Affiliate manager.

Never ceases to amaze me of some people's expectations.

I disagree -- that's a textbook affiliate manager job description.

Less than that would be a sales rep.

An affiliate manager is basically a guy who could run his own program but doesn't. He gets a check to run someone else's.

A sales rep is a board whore and ICQ pal to affiliates.

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

I disagree -- that's a textbook affiliate manager job description.

Less than that would be a sales rep.

An affiliate manager is basically a guy who could run his own program but doesn't. He gets a check to run someone else's.

A sales rep is a board whore and ICQ pal to affiliates.

Spot on Jimmy, I'm not asking aff manager to buy or produce content, nor pay salaries, nor deal with a banks and billings, nor a paper work. In addition maybe I have high expectations, but I expect to pay high salary for the right person, so it make sense to me.

[nico-t]

affiliate managers are mostly annoying as hell, but there are some good ones between em

[Mutt]

why would a Top 10 affiliate want to take a full time job as an affiliate manager when he's already making over 100K on his own? No point hiring an affiliate manager unless he's full time and totally dedicated to it.

[datatank]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

I disagree -- that's a textbook affiliate manager job description.

Less than that would be a sales rep.

An affiliate manager is basically a guy who could run his own program but doesn't. He gets a check to run someone else's.

A sales rep is a board whore and ICQ pal to affiliates.

So you are saying the hardest part of running a program is managing affiliates ?

[datatank]

LB69 did you send out cashews from Hawaii ? If it was you thanks those were amazing

[LB-69]

Originally Posted by datatank

LB69 did you send out cashews from Hawaii ? If it was you thanks those were amazing

No idea what are you talking about..

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I do it purely for commission.

[RevengeBucks_Monica]

I agree that an affiliate manager needs to be someone who has sent sales. Why on earth would you want someone representing your program who has no clue how to sell it themselves? They need to be outgoing and personable and enjoy networking.

As for pay, that's going to entirely depend on the size of the existing affiliate base and the budget of the company. There are a lot of variables I think.

[WiredGuy]

I think their pay should be a reflection of the number of joins they manage for the aff program. The more joins they bring in, the higher commission they get. A majority of their income should be commission plus a small base salary. Give them incentive to work hard.
WG

[teksonline]

guys who sell programs dont want to be affilaite reps lol. partners maybe