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Old 09-15-2007, 01:30 PM   #1
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Your worst sponsor (ratios)

I know a lot of people think we should all shut up about it when a sponsor is doing poorly but I don't believe in that at all. I tell it like it is.

Pimproll

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Revshare 1:3681
PPS 0:4785

Average conversions with the same traffic: 1:692

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Old 09-15-2007, 01:32 PM   #2
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I stopped promoting them after about a month, but there are blog posts still up somewhere
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:44 PM   #3
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fucking all horrible (putting it lightly) ratios
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:27 PM   #8
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:37 PM   #10
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that is pretty self explanatory though, with their 14 day revshare bullshit

you probably have a shit ton of people that spent money, but they did it outside that 14 day period
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:42 PM   #11
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that is pretty self explanatory though, with their 14 day revshare bullshit

you probably have a shit ton of people that spent money, but they did it outside that 14 day period
Yea.... that is the story I think. I have pulled most of the links now.
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:46 PM   #12
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there's other shit sponsors, but these two take the fucking cake for shit & useless

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Old 09-15-2007, 02:48 PM   #13
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Old 09-15-2007, 03:44 PM   #14
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panchodog 1:30K+
AEBN 1:50K+

there's other shit sponsors, but these two take the fucking cake for shit & useless

aebn I can agree with.. but panchodog... I have great ratios and sales with them.
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:08 PM   #15
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I dont know about shitty ones, but I can tell you what sponsors kicks fucking ass!!! JUGGCASH PAYS MY MOTHERFUCKING BILLS!
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It's all relative to you knowing how to sell it and your traffic.

Otherwise how does one guy do 1:162 and another do 1:9382 (or worse) on a regular basis?
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:26 PM   #17
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:31 PM   #19
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Old 09-15-2007, 04:58 PM   #21
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Wow !

Some real bad ratios there
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:01 PM   #22
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:04 PM   #24
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Old 09-15-2007, 05:09 PM   #25
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I do at least 60 sales a month with them & have historical ratio of 1:572
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Now, what difference does it make.. some people using sponsor A have better ratios while others using sponsor A have shitty ratios..

It's all dependant on many variables such as traffic volume, traffic quality, NICHE TARGETTING, presentation & sales text, promo method, GEO because let's face it, if your traffic is from non billable countries, forget it..,, source of traffic, your other outbound links, etc, etc, etc..



Here's an example..
How many of you posting poor ratios are also using AVNAds or some other contextual ad service on the same sites your promoting those sponsors from???

Your surfers who could of bought a membership were sent away to myfreepaysite.com via AVNAds for a measly .01.. think about that!!!!


Here's another example, CHOICE!! How many choices are you giving your visitors?? Too Many? Not Enough?
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I noticed a few people listed bad Brain Cash numbers but I'm at 1:591 with them. I think it all has to do with what kind of traffic you have. I do well with them but, I'm at 1:2000 with some other sponsers.
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If you are sending traffic from your TGP which is really a CJ site then those ratios are what you should expect.
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I think all these poor ratios boil down to using the standard overpromoted tours from the sponsors. What you need to do is get creative and make your own custom tours instead of using the sponsor ones. That's what I do, but then again I'm very creative and my tours $ell
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I don't get it...
im fucking experiencing something very similar, the only catch is I DONT want to do stop promoting juggcash, cuz it seems like it has amazing content like brazbucks, and i still think juggcash can sell better than bangbros since bangbros is the most exposed porn site out there
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Nasty Dollars 1:708 (and people say they are too saturated?)
Bang Bros Online 1:657 (Again... Saturated? I think not...)

They ARE saturated, but they ROCK!
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I stopped promoting them after about a month, but there are blog posts still up somewhere
My realsexcash experience is similiar...

I'm just at 0:7830 though...
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Bad ratios are very easy to get though. It often boils down to that particular webmaster, their sites, how they promote, traffic sources, etc.

If I am doing gallery crap 1:2500 is fine with me, hell its expected.
If I am really filtering it and it skips all pre made material and goes direct to join, anything more than 1:25 and I would be wondering whats up.
If I am tossing my random or crap traffic at shit 1:15k is nothing abnormal.

However there is something to be said about a few listed. Some just um lets just say they do not convert
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Those of you with 0:4000+ should qualify your answers with the type of traffic and time period. Huge difference in 1:5000 over 1 day vs. a few hits a day over 2 years. Also mention if you've EVER had a sale. I'll have a good at the guys redirecting 404's straight to tours or auto-redirects and wondering why those clicks aren't converting into $


I won't even bring up the comparisons of sponsors who count 2nd/qualified/join page hits vs. first page raw/uniques..... o.k. I just did ;) Worse yet are those of you that are like "OMG.. i'm like 1:XXX with (some sponsor that counts qualified uniques)... WOW!!!!!!!!"

Keep on' spreading that misinformation
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The other side of the spectrum:
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Nasty Dollars 1:708 (and people say they are too saturated?)
Incredible Dollars 1:411
Diesel Action 1:429
Pride Bucks 1:435 (They're gay. They convert... They make me proud)
Kinky Dollars 1:564
Pimp Roll 1:603
Bang Bros Online 1:657 (Again... Saturated? I think not...)
Lightspeed 1:692 (100% rebill! As in, make 200 sales, get 200 rebills)
StarlightBucks 0:16,967!!!

First off that's Raw, not unique, which 0:3612 which is still not good though. But either way hit me up and let's see if we can't get that down a good bit lower ;)
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SPACash 1:3446
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Hush Money 1:3308
Jason&Alex 1:2774

The other side of the spectrum:
Quick Buck 1:145
Nasty Dollars 1:708 (and people say they are too saturated?)
Incredible Dollars 1:411
Diesel Action 1:429
Pride Bucks 1:435 (They're gay. They convert... They make me proud)
Kinky Dollars 1:564
Pimp Roll 1:603
Bang Bros Online 1:657 (Again... Saturated? I think not...)
Lightspeed 1:692 (100% rebill! As in, make 200 sales, get 200 rebills)
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First off that's Raw, not unique, which 0:3612 which is still not good though. But either way hit me up and let's see if we can't get that down a good bit lower ;)
Ahh... Rigth you are!

As for anything you can do... These are hits that type in your websites name and then get sent directly to your website... so the only thing that can be done is to make your website convert better.
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