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andrew1009 · 04-14-2003, 08:02 PM

I was just thinking of a response that I received when I told someone what I did for a living. After I said I work in Adult Internet, he replied "how do you make money off of online porn? isn't it all free?". Those were his exact words!

HungSolo · 04-14-2003, 08:03 PM

TV is free, too.... but they seem to do allright...

andrew1009 · 04-14-2003, 08:05 PM

There was a recent discussion about this not too long ago. I don't really blame TGP's, Kazaa is where most freeloaders have turned to. This is where this guy tells me he finds his shit.... well most of it.

directfiesta · 04-14-2003, 08:05 PM

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Originally posted by HungSolo
TV is free, too.... but they seem to do allright...

Very intelligent answer ... Have any Mazda adds on your site?

Oh, I forgot. You probably don't have a site, you just make free galleries on free hosts ....

MuleScrote · 04-14-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by andrew1009
I was just thinking of a response that I received when I told someone what I did for a living. After I said I work in Adult Internet, he replied "how do you make money off of online porn? isn't it all free?". Those were his exact words!

I sometimes get that response too. But my favorite is "I don't surf porn because there are so many pop-ups." I always tell them to go home and run a search for clip-art, then they will understand what pop-up hell really is.

andrew1009 · 04-14-2003, 08:07 PM

Actually another funny response I get is "are you the guy that puts all the popups up? Cuz I hate those things."

HungSolo · 04-14-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Very intelligent answer ... Have any Mazda adds on your site?

Oh, I forgot. You probably don't have a site, you just make free galleries on free hosts ....

Why would Mazda advertise on a porn site? Where is the relevancy? If you can't see the comparison's between the two business models, then it is you who needs help.

FREE Content = Viewers/Traffic/Surfers
Viewers/Traffic/Surfers = Advertising
Advertising = Money

Damn, you just like to argue, don't you? About my sites, btw... my guess is you cash checks from me. Think about what you say before you speak sometimes.... DUDE!

foreverjason · 04-14-2003, 08:17 PM

there will always be shit to fight. Its a matter of picking your battles where you know you can win!

Punisher · 04-14-2003, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Very intelligent answer ... Have any Mazda adds on your site?

Oh, I forgot. You probably don't have a site, you just make free galleries on free hosts ....

Okay and isn't it "ads" not "adds" what are you talking about intelligent ? Anyway figures you are to imature to proof read what you post just to post something like you really know something!

BRISK · 04-14-2003, 08:41 PM

Water is free. Turn on your tap and water comes out. Free.

So why is bottled water a billion dollar industry?

Why would anyone ever pay for water when they can get it for free?

The answer is the same reason people pay for porn.

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People pay for quality.

Quality water.
Quality porn.
Hagaan Dazs Ice Cream
Lexus, BMW, Mercedes

People are willing to pay for quality products, even when they can get a similar (but lower quality product) for less money or even free.

directfiesta · 04-14-2003, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Punisher

Okay and isn't it "ads" not "adds" what are you talking about intelligent ? Anyway figures you are to imature to proof read what you post just to post something like you really know something!

Use typo for a justification... of your ignorance. BTW my mother tongue is not English... would like to see you...

Hungsolo: I do not promote your site, I do not promote any site at all. I have my own, and I don't have a partner program... I promote my own sites.

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Where is the relevancy?

Money. You did compare both, so live with your comparaison.

HungSolo · 04-14-2003, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Money. You did compare both, so live with your comparaison.

I meant, where is the relevancy of advertising a car company on a porn site? So, did you understand my equation, then??

Snake Doctor · 04-14-2003, 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by directfiesta

Very intelligent answer ... Have any Mazda adds on your site?

Who needs Mazda ads?
To elaborate on the earlier TV statement.....Network TV is free, cable TV costs money.
There are tons of cable TV ads running on free television channels. And there are plenty of ads for cable "upsells" on cable TV channels.

Some people know how to get cable for free, but there are still ALOT of people that pay for it every month.

directfiesta · 04-14-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2

Who needs Mazda ads?
To elaborate on the earlier TV statement.....Network TV is free, cable TV costs money.
There are tons of cable TV ads running on free television channels. And there are plenty of ads for cable "upsells" on cable TV channels.

Some people know how to get cable for free, but there are still ALOT of people that pay for it every month.

OK.. This is going to be long:

Free porn:

- advertises "pay-porn" ( paysites ), nothing else ( not computers, internet providers, or other main stream products)

Free TV:

- advertises at 90% various consumers products.
- Advertise some pay-tv ( HBO, etc) services or events, but not more than 10% of their ads.

So to compare those as identical business model is way off base.

That was the very simple point.

To be true, your comparaison should be backed by " Free TV only revenues are generated by promoting PAY-TV ", which is not.

Snake Doctor · 04-14-2003, 09:11 PM

Come to think of it, even the cable companies sell porn

My girlfriend brought me home an article about the porn industry from the new york times magazine yesterday, it was an interesting read.
There are over 700 million adult video rentals every year in the United States.

700 MILLION!!!!

So if everyone knows how to log onto the net and get all the porn they want for free (or hack their cable box and get all the pay per view shit for free) why would they waste their time, money, gas, and risk their anonymity driving to the video store to overpay for shitty 2 hour titles from the backroom?

The porn industry overall (video/dvd, magazines, internet, pay per view, phone sex, and sex toys) takes in over 10 billion dollars a year, and internet porn is the fastest growing sector of the industry.

10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!

For those of you who don't realize how big of a number that is, its more money than the NBA, the NFL, and Major League Baseball take in COMBINED!.

People really need to quit blaming thier shitty conversions on TGP's and Kazaa and learn how to change with the marketplace.

If the cable company blamed their low profits on cable thieves and competition from sattellite companies, and just sat around and whined about "the good ole days when it was $50 a month for 15 channels and the service was shitty" the way some people around here whine about the "good ole days when it was all CJ's, FPA's, and console hells" they'd be out of business by now. Instead, they're offering a better product, and offering additional products (i.e. broadband internet) in order to evolve and stay profitable.

If your profits are dwindling, maybe you should stop looking for people to blame and take a page from their playbook.

SpaceAce · 04-14-2003, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by HungSolo
TV is free, too.... but they seem to do allright...

Faulty logic. Fox doesn't run ads for ABC.

SpaceAce

HungSolo · 04-14-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce

Faulty logic. Fox doesn't run ads for ABC.

SpaceAce

Not all TGPs or Free Sites trade traffic, though... 'sides, I said the models are comparable, I didn't say they were identical.

fang · 04-14-2003, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Water is free. Turn on your tap and water comes out. Free.

So why is bottled water a billion dollar industry?

Why would anyone ever pay for water when they can get it for free?

The answer is the same reason people pay for porn.

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V

People pay for quality.

Quality water.
Quality porn.
Hagaan Dazs Ice Cream
Lexus, BMW, Mercedes

People are willing to pay for quality products, even when they can get a similar (but lower quality product) for less money or even free.

Water is free?
Why does my city keep sending me a water bill then?

Snake Doctor · 04-14-2003, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by directfiesta

OK.. This is going to be long:

Free porn:

- advertises "pay-porn" ( paysites ), nothing else ( not computers, internet providers, or other main stream products)

Free TV:

- advertises at 90% various consumers products.
- Advertise some pay-tv ( HBO, etc) services or events, but not more than 10% of their ads.

So to compare those as identical business model is way off base.

That was the very simple point.

To be true, your comparaison should be backed by " Free TV only revenues are generated by promoting PAY-TV ", which is not.

Ok the percentages are different, but there are still lots of other products you can sell on porn sites, and forward thinking companies are coming out with new ones all the time.

Adult personal ads, phone sex, sex toys, penis pills, internet eraser, success with women guides, etc etc etc

BRISK · 04-14-2003, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by fang

Water is free?
Why does my city keep sending me a water bill then?

Are you saying you can't get loads of free water from somewhere if you wanted it?

Water is basically free for anyone who wants it.

cherrylula · 04-14-2003, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRISK
Water is free. Turn on your tap and water comes out. Free.

So why is bottled water a billion dollar industry?

Why would anyone ever pay for water when they can get it for free?

Its not free. There is such a thing as a water bill.

directfiesta · 04-14-2003, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by Lenny2

People really need to quit blaming thier shitty conversions on TGP's and Kazaa and learn how to change with the marketplace.

This is exactly what my second post was about.

But still, too much free porn ( including newsgroups ) is not helping to convert a free surfer into a paying surfer. This was the beginning of this thread.

Snake Doctor · 04-14-2003, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by SpaceAce

Faulty logic. Fox doesn't run ads for ABC.

SpaceAce

Ahhh but ABC runs ads for the local cable companies. Cable channels run ads for Direct TV. Channels I get on sattellite run ads for blockbuster, which is competition for thier pay per view service etc etc

Our business and the way its advertised is indeed very unique, but other industries don't differ from us as much as you think.

fang · 04-14-2003, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK

Are you saying you can't get loads of free water from somewhere if you wanted it?

Water is basically free for anyone who wants it.

It sure would suck if I didn't pay my water bill and had too go in search of all the "free" water just to take a shower in the morning.

quiet · 04-14-2003, 09:48 PM

we're all fuckin' doomed

tony286 · 04-14-2003, 10:00 PM

A few things, video is still more fun to watch to get off on a tv then on a computer especially when the avg Joe is on a shit system on a shit connection. Secondly the problem I have with free porn is it really costs them nothing to go into the free porn business. What they should do and it would protect the kids and get rid of alot of the freeloaders. To have a adult site site you must have a .sex domain and the domain cost is $2000 a year. Say goodbye to most of our problems. lol Let people cough up some skin if they want to be in the game.

Nima · 04-14-2003, 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by andrew1009
I was just thinking of a response that I received when I told someone what I did for a living. After I said I work in Adult Internet, he replied "how do you make money off of online porn? isn't it all free?". Those were his exact words!

something similar to what my friend said. He said why would you pay for porn when there are hundreds of thousands of free sites out there. but then again there is still money to be made. you just gotta be smart and know how to make it even with free porn

69pornlinks · 04-14-2003, 10:08 PM

you get what you pay for

free porn is mostly overused pics that's on every other site so i doubt it's hurting the biz..just a couple:pennies

SomeCreep · 04-15-2003, 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by HungSolo
TV is free, too.... but they seem to do allright...

Not free for me, I have cable and its fucking expensive

Naughty · 04-15-2003, 04:18 AM

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Originally posted by quiet
we're all fuckin' doomed

"We", as in 'us', but not you?

High Quality · 04-15-2003, 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by MuleScrote

I sometimes get that response too. But my favorite is "I don't surf porn because there are so many pop-ups." I always tell them to go home and run a search for clip-art, then they will understand what pop-up hell really is.

Man this is SO true.

FlyingIguana · 04-15-2003, 05:57 AM

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Originally posted by HungSolo
TV is free, too.... but they seem to do allright...

tv commercials are much better than banners...

DarkJedi · 04-15-2003, 06:10 AM

mazdas suck

Neff · 04-15-2003, 06:27 AM

Nothing is free.

Water isn't free.

You call this 'free porn' but it costs...
You need electricity, PC and Internet to find and see it... if it isn't your home PC you use it on the work place and it costs for your employer huge money.

You call it free just because it isn't generate money for you.

marty · 04-15-2003, 06:53 AM

I don't like the idea of free porn either.

The print and video industries didn't give away anything for free, so why should we.

Let the users pay.

I've been going to my local McDonalds for 12 years and I have never received anything for free.

Betray · 04-15-2003, 07:18 AM

i was talking to the guy that cuts my hair, and the owner overheard are conversation, and hes like so your the damn people that put up those pop ups...

this guy musta been like 50, i guess he searchs for that odd niche. =)

he asked me why i do that, and im like i dont, but people do it for the obvious, money =)

magicmike · 04-15-2003, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marty
I don't like the idea of free porn either.

The print and video industries didn't give away anything for free, so why should we.

Let the users pay.

I've been going to my local McDonalds for 12 years and I have never received anything for free.

Sure you have,

Smiles are free at McDonalds

EscortBiz · 04-15-2003, 08:44 AM

not everyone knows about free stuff, I bet you can still sell AOL CD's for $20, someone who needs it now will pay

think and think

FATPad · 04-15-2003, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Neff
Nothing is free.

Water isn't free.

You call this 'free porn' but it costs...
You need electricity, PC and Internet to find and see it... if it isn't your home PC you use it on the work place and it costs for your employer huge money.

You call it free just because it isn't generate money for you.

Ehhh...I thought they called it free porn because there was no charge to view it.

Seaz · 04-15-2003, 09:06 AM

some people here need to lurn that when we say FREE we mean MONEY. and that we are talking about the actual products and not what it cost to get them.

Like paying for electricity dosent count in the free part.

04-14-2003, 08:02 PM	#1
andrew1009 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 801	This is how you know there's too much free porn online... I was just thinking of a response that I received when I told someone what I did for a living. After I said I work in Adult Internet, he replied "how do you make money off of online porn? isn't it all free?". Those were his exact words!

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	Water is free. Turn on your tap and water comes out. Free. So why is bottled water a billion dollar industry? Why would anyone ever pay for water when they can get it for free? The answer is the same reason people pay for porn. \| \| \| \| \| V People pay for quality. Quality water. Quality porn. Hagaan Dazs Ice Cream Lexus, BMW, Mercedes People are willing to pay for quality products, even when they can get a similar (but lower quality product) for less money or even free. __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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Snake Doctor I'm Lenny2 Bitch Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: On top of my soapbox Posts: 13,449	Come to think of it, even the cable companies sell porn My girlfriend brought me home an article about the porn industry from the new york times magazine yesterday, it was an interesting read. There are over 700 million adult video rentals every year in the United States. 700 MILLION!!!! So if everyone knows how to log onto the net and get all the porn they want for free (or hack their cable box and get all the pay per view shit for free) why would they waste their time, money, gas, and risk their anonymity driving to the video store to overpay for shitty 2 hour titles from the backroom? The porn industry overall (video/dvd, magazines, internet, pay per view, phone sex, and sex toys) takes in over 10 billion dollars a year, and internet porn is the fastest growing sector of the industry. 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!! For those of you who don't realize how big of a number that is, its more money than the NBA, the NFL, and Major League Baseball take in COMBINED!. People really need to quit blaming thier shitty conversions on TGP's and Kazaa and learn how to change with the marketplace. If the cable company blamed their low profits on cable thieves and competition from sattellite companies, and just sat around and whined about "the good ole days when it was $50 a month for 15 channels and the service was shitty" the way some people around here whine about the "good ole days when it was all CJ's, FPA's, and console hells" they'd be out of business by now. Instead, they're offering a better product, and offering additional products (i.e. broadband internet) in order to evolve and stay profitable. If your profits are dwindling, maybe you should stop looking for people to blame and take a page from their playbook. __________________ sig too big

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HungSolo Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: A Galaxy Far, Far Away... Posts: 582	TV is free, too.... but they seem to do allright...

04-14-2003, 08:05 PM	#3
andrew1009 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 801	There was a recent discussion about this not too long ago. I don't really blame TGP's, Kazaa is where most freeloaders have turned to. This is where this guy tells me he finds his shit.... well most of it.

04-14-2003, 08:07 PM	#6
andrew1009 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 801	Actually another funny response I get is "are you the guy that puts all the popups up? Cuz I hate those things."

04-14-2003, 08:17 PM	#8
foreverjason Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,452	there will always be shit to fight. Its a matter of picking your battles where you know you can win!

04-14-2003, 09:48 PM	#25
quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	we're all fuckin' doomed

04-14-2003, 10:00 PM	#26
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	A few things, video is still more fun to watch to get off on a tv then on a computer especially when the avg Joe is on a shit system on a shit connection. Secondly the problem I have with free porn is it really costs them nothing to go into the free porn business. What they should do and it would protect the kids and get rid of alot of the freeloaders. To have a adult site site you must have a .sex domain and the domain cost is $2000 a year. Say goodbye to most of our problems. lol Let people cough up some skin if they want to be in the game.

04-15-2003, 06:10 AM	#33
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	mazdas suck

04-15-2003, 06:27 AM	#34
Neff Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 86	Nothing is free. Water isn't free. You call this 'free porn' but it costs... You need electricity, PC and Internet to find and see it... if it isn't your home PC you use it on the work place and it costs for your employer huge money. You call it free just because it isn't generate money for you.

04-15-2003, 06:53 AM	#35
marty Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,656	I don't like the idea of free porn either. The print and video industries didn't give away anything for free, so why should we. Let the users pay. I've been going to my local McDonalds for 12 years and I have never received anything for free.

04-15-2003, 07:18 AM	#36
Betray Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 346	i was talking to the guy that cuts my hair, and the owner overheard are conversation, and hes like so your the damn people that put up those pop ups... this guy musta been like 50, i guess he searchs for that odd niche. =) he asked me why i do that, and im like i dont, but people do it for the obvious, money =)

04-15-2003, 09:06 AM	#40
Seaz Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 773	some people here need to lurn that when we say FREE we mean MONEY. and that we are talking about the actual products and not what it cost to get them. Like paying for electricity dosent count in the free part.