What Do You Think About The Trans-Pacific Partnership? - GoFuckYourself.com

BFT3K · 01-09-2014, 11:04 AM

Looks pretty horrible to me....

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LmMsZAVnySI

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rHq25Kle8Lw

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zxklYigMBac

_Richard_ · 01-09-2014, 11:10 AM

all your bases..

BFT3K · 01-09-2014, 11:13 AM

If the corporations behind this agreement get their way, the world will change overnight, and it will not be for the better.

BFT3K · 01-09-2014, 01:41 PM

Food and Pharmaceutical Monopolization - Seed and Cell Ownership - Massive Internet Restrictions - Lower Labor Pay - Less US Manufacturing (as if that is even possible) - Long Term Patents - CORPORATE CONTROL OF GOVERNMENTS - This trade agreement is being decided in secret, and by the heads of the world's largest corporations. People need to know more about this.

tony286 · 01-09-2014, 01:43 PM

Yep Obama is a big business hating liberal . lol

BFT3K · 01-09-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Yep Obama is a big business hating liberal . lol

People say I only bash Republicans, but this is another case where I am bashing them all, including Obama.

tony286 · 01-09-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

People say I only bash Republicans, but this is another case where I am bashing them all, including Obama.

They have to say that, its the false equivalency.

klinton · 01-09-2014, 02:05 PM

https://wikileaks.org/tpp/

DTK · 01-09-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Yep Obama is a big business hating liberal . lol

More like center-right corporate shill. Remember, in 2008, Obama's biggest donors were the Too Big To Fail banks. Isn't it interesting that there were no prosecutions in the wake of the biggest financial fraud ever? But yeah, he's some radical "leftist"

TPP is seriously bad news.

_Richard_ · 01-09-2014, 02:12 PM

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More like center-right corporate shill.

TPP is seriously bad news.

not necessarily.. if it's as bad as it is made out to be, could be one of those 'straws' we're so desperately needing

DTK · 01-09-2014, 02:36 PM

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...ld-avoid.shtml

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...kileaking.html

BFT3K · 01-09-2014, 05:38 PM

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http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...ld-avoid.shtml

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-1...kileaking.html

Interesting.

DTK · 01-09-2014, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

not necessarily.. if it's as bad as it is made out to be, could be one of those 'straws' we're so desperately needing

Not sure what you mean by 'straws'

DTK · 01-09-2014, 09:42 PM

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Interesting.

Corporations (via their shills in the USTR office) are basically negotiating & writing the framework, and legislators aren't even allowed to look at it? This does not pass the smell test.

NEW XTC · 01-10-2014, 10:24 AM

you know anything about the Masons New World Order coming down the pipe...this is an important domino...no stopping it - national governments are too volitile and dangerous to run the planet for much longer..NWO right around the corner my man.

dyna mo · 01-10-2014, 10:35 AM

It appears to be a bigger version of nafta. who pushd and signed that pos trade agreement into legislation? bill clinton.

_Richard_ · 01-10-2014, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK

Not sure what you mean by 'straws'

critical mass.. straw that broke the camels back..

DTK · 01-10-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

It appears to be a bigger version of nafta. who pushd and signed that pos trade agreement into legislation? bill clinton.

well yes, but far more accurate to say his big money benefactors. presidents are little more than business agents.

Wellness Cash · 01-10-2014, 06:22 PM

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Remember, in 2008, Obama's biggest donors were the Too Big To Fail banks.

Actually, they weren't.

His biggest donors were tech companies (Microsoft, Google, IBM) and Universities (Harvard, Stanford, etc).

DTK · 01-10-2014, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wellness Cash

Actually, they weren't.

His biggest donors were tech companies (Microsoft, Google, IBM) and Universities (Harvard, Stanford, etc).

beg to differ, though instead of saying TBTF banks, I should have said "wall st" in general. http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/in...&cid=N00009638

See "Sector Totals"

Lawyers & Lobbyists $47,722,009 (of course, lawyers & lobbyists can represent any industry)
Finance, Insurance & Real Estate $43,744,789
Communications/Electronics $29,055,271

Looking at "Top Industries"
1 Lawyers/Law Firms $46,988,063 (of course, lawyers & lobbyists can represent any industry)
3 Education $25,418,843

4 Securities & Investment $16,580,277
13 Misc Finance $7,038,619
18 Commercial Banks $3,421,453
Just my opinion, but I think it's fair to combine these 3, and that would total $27 mil.

and..
10 Computers/Internet $9,744,738

So I guess it depends on how you want to slice up the numbers. The big wild card is the nearly $50mil donated by lawyers/lobbyists as that is impossibly vague.

BFT3K · 01-11-2014, 09:22 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o7pVjl4Rrtc

BFT3K · 01-14-2014, 09:26 AM

Bill Moyers on why the Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade agreement is death for democracy

from the piece...

It?s not really hard to understand TPP though, once you see the pattern ? TPP puts the ruling class (and the corporations they control) in charge of most aspects of our economic and regulatory life. It rewrites the laws of every nation that signs it, all to increase the wealth of our pathological betters. We just need more people saying that.

more here...

http://americablog.com/2013/11/bill-...democracy.html

BFT3K · 12-30-2014, 07:51 AM

As this insanity has resurfaced, here's a bump, and a new link...

Trans-Pacific Partnership

MaDalton · 12-30-2014, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

As this insanity has resurfaced, here's a bump, and a new link...

Trans-Pacific Partnership

Trans-Pacific Partnership - Undermining Food Safety

since the same shit is going on between the US and Europe:

rest assured the rest of the world is much more concerned about US food than you should be the other way round

Monsanto, corn syrup, chlorine chicken and all kinds of other chemical shit that is so far not allowed over here and that we would prefer to keep it that way.

hadden · 12-30-2014, 08:06 AM

get kilt

BFT3K · 12-30-2014, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

Trans-Pacific Partnership - Undermining Food Safety

since the same shit is going on between the US and Europe:

rest assured the rest of the world is much more concerned about US food than you should be the other way round

Monsanto, corn syrup, chlorine chicken and all kinds of other chemical shit that is so far not allowed over here and that we would prefer to keep it that way.

The "media" will not provide any "truth" in this story, and so far, doesn't even seem interested in covering it at all - even though it is one of the most important issues happening right now, with ramifications that could be both domestic, as well as globally, devastating.

BFT3K · 12-30-2014, 04:01 PM

The Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty is the complete opposite of 'free trade' | Mark Weisbrot | Comment is free | The Guardian

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NEW XTC Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 738	you know anything about the Masons New World Order coming down the pipe...this is an important domino...no stopping it - national governments are too volitile and dangerous to run the planet for much longer..NWO right around the corner my man. __________________ Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

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BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	If the corporations behind this agreement get their way, the world will change overnight, and it will not be for the better.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	Yep Obama is a big business hating liberal . lol

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klinton So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: online Posts: 8,766	https://wikileaks.org/tpp/

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,164	It appears to be a bigger version of nafta. who pushd and signed that pos trade agreement into legislation? bill clinton.

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BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	https://youtube.com/watch?v=o7pVjl4Rrtc

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BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	Bill Moyers on why the Trans-Pacific Partnership free trade agreement is death for democracy from the piece... It?s not really hard to understand TPP though, once you see the pattern ? TPP puts the ruling class (and the corporations they control) in charge of most aspects of our economic and regulatory life. It rewrites the laws of every nation that signs it, all to increase the wealth of our pathological betters. We just need more people saying that. more here... http://americablog.com/2013/11/bill-...democracy.html

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BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	As this insanity has resurfaced, here's a bump, and a new link... Trans-Pacific Partnership

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hadden So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,440	get kilt

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BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	The Trans-Pacific Partnership treaty is the complete opposite of 'free trade' \| Mark Weisbrot \| Comment is free \| The Guardian