How To Destroy The Tube Site Model - GoFuckYourself.com

BFT3K · 01-26-2013, 01:32 PM

Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)...

http://safariadblock.com/

Fucking Awesome!

Killswitch · 01-26-2013, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Hey tube site owners - watcha gonna do when everyone starts blocking all of your ads?

Fucking Sweeeeeet!

http://safariadblock.com/

The fact that you support something like this is horrible... I don't care if you think it's good to use against the tubes or not... These extensions are meant to blacklist everything and require you to whitelist sites, and normal users won't customize it that much, they'll just install the extension and go on their merry way never seeing an advertisement again.

Say good bye to your income too. It's already a problem

http://www.removeadblock.com

BFT3K · 01-26-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

The fact that you support something like this is horrible... I don't care if you think it's good to use against the tubes or not... These extensions are meant to blacklist everything and require you to whitelist sites, and normal users won't customize it that much, they'll just install the extension and go on their merry way never seeing an advertisement again.

Say good bye to your income too. It's already a problem.

My income is based on producing a product and selling it. I don't give a shit if these new ad-blocking solutions kill off all tube sites.

Killswitch · 01-26-2013, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K

My income is based on producing a product and selling it. I don't give a shit if these new ad-blocking solutions kill off all tube sites.

You don't get it do you? How do people make money on their websites? They put up advertisements next to your content that you give them to get sales on your sites... These programs block them too... Therefore you're enabling people blocking LEGITIMATE ads too.

notinmybackyard · 01-26-2013, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)...

http://safariadblock.com/

Fucking Awesome!

It least it is a start.

BFT3K · 01-26-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

You don't get it do you? How do people make money on their websites? They put up advertisements next to your content that you give them to get sales on your sites... These programs block them too... Therefore you're enabling people blocking LEGITIMATE ads too.

The people who make money off my program run blogs with hardlinks back to me.

These people are not effected. Tubes are effected, and I don't give one single fuck about tubes!

Killswitch · 01-26-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

The people who make money off my program run blogs with hardlinks back to me.

These people are not effected. Tubes are effected, and I don't give one single fuck about tubes!

CyberHustler · 01-26-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)...

http://safariadblock.com/

Fucking Awesome!

http://www.plugrush.com/account/faq/9/30

halfpint · 01-26-2013, 02:06 PM

These ad blockers come out and then there are always ways to to counter act the ad blockers. Been like that for years

Captain Kawaii · 01-26-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

These ad blockers come out and then there are always ways to to counter act the ad blockers. Been like that for years

But its a tennis match we need to win. Fuck tubes and their fucking scammy advertisers.
We work off the premise of providing content and products, people promote via hardlinks. When I hit a site that has pop up after pop up or under, I want to to take a baseball bat and crush the mutherfuckers skull into goo. Sick of it.

freemarket · 01-26-2013, 02:26 PM

This guy goes on a webmaster forum and argues against online ads. What a guy.

Supz · 01-26-2013, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K

My income is based on producing a product and selling it. I don't give a shit if these new ad-blocking solutions kill off all tube sites.

Dont you buy ad's in places?

mineistaken · 01-26-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

The people who make money off my program run blogs with hardlinks back to me.

These people are not effected. Tubes are effected, and I don't give one single fuck about tubes!

I doubt that all of them do not use ads on their blogs... In fact I would bet that most of them have ads on their blogs.

notinmybackyard · 01-26-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

But its a tennis match we need to win. Fuck tubes and their fucking scammy advertisers.
We work off the premise of providing content and products, people promote via hardlinks. When I hit a site that has pop up after pop up or under, I want to to take a baseball bat and crush the mutherfuckers skull into goo. Sick of it.

I love it when you talk dirty.

Do you realize that you are now talking like a pornographer from my generation ?

2MuchMark · 01-26-2013, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

You don't get it do you? How do people make money on their websites? They put up advertisements next to your content that you give them to get sales on your sites... These programs block them too... Therefore you're enabling people blocking LEGITIMATE ads too.

Hi Killswitch

Most people understand the need for advertising on websites, and most are ok with some ads appearing. This isn't the problem. The real problem is with OVER-advertising either by super aggressive marketing companies, dumb webmasters, or both.

Alot of advertisers think that more is better. They think that hammering the fuck out of end users is the way to get seen. They have either never heard the word "targeted" ads, or they can't be bothered with it.

Take Youtube for example. Youtube used to COOL and a FUN destination. Now ads pop-up in the vidoes I want to watch forcing me to click to close them. Even worse are ads that force me to watch 5 seconds before I can "click to skip" the ad.

Problems like Ad Blocker are a GOOD IDEA, and I'm saying this even though we spend money on advertising all the time. The Internet Advertising industry as a whole is just getting a little out of control, ignoring customer surfing habits in exchange for more more more. Although I want my ads to be seen, I don't blame surfers who want ad blocking software at all.

Want proof? How pissed off do you get at yet another Live Jasmin Pop-under, with some annoying twit moaning through your speakers when you didn't want or expect it?

Thanks BFT3K for the link to http://safariadblock.com/. I don't think it will hurt the tube sites much (and ad sellers will just deny its existence or downplay it anyway), but oh well.

Love it.

Killswitch · 01-26-2013, 02:42 PM

My reaction when reading the responses in favor of using adblock from the people in this thread:

notinmybackyard · 01-26-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Hi Killswitch

Most people understand the need for advertising on websites, and most are ok with some ads appearing. This isn't the problem. The real problem is with OVER-advertising either by super aggressive marketing companies, dumb webmasters, or both.

Alot of advertisers think that more is better. They think that hammering the fuck out of end users is the way to get seen. They have either never heard the word "targeted" ads, or they can't be bothered with it.

Take Youtube for example. Youtube used to COOL and a FUN destination. Now ads pop-up in the vidoes I want to watch forcing me to click to close them. Even worse are ads that force me to watch 5 seconds before I can "click to skip" the ad.

Problems like Ad Blocker are a GOOD IDEA, and I'm saying this even though we spend money on advertising all the time. The Internet Advertising industry as a whole is just getting a little out of control, ignoring customer surfing habits in exchange for more more more. Although I want my ads to be seen, I don't blame surfers who want ad blocking software at all.

Want proof? How pissed off do you get at yet another Live Jasmin Pop-under, with some annoying twit moaning through your speakers when you didn't want or expect it?

Thanks BFT3K for the link to http://safariadblock.com/. I don't think it will hurt the tube sites much (and ad sellers will just deny its existence or downplay it anyway), but oh well.

Love it.

Well spoken

I am old school and obviously attitudes have changed drastically since my days. Perhaps one of the biggest changes has been the change from a "modestly gentleman's approach" toward others earning their living from smut.. To a "fuck you asshole I am going get what ever I can" attitude.

The majority of tube sites are not factoring anyone or anything other than themselves. They neglect (sometimes even ridicule) all others that are involved in this industry who are trying to earn a living too.

Now having read what you posted it appears to me that you are somone of at least modest intelligence and perhaps even an accomplished businessman. Therefore you know as well as I know that a good reputation is one of the biggest, most valuable assets of any business. And that repuation does not just involve how the end user views them but also how industry colleges, employees, etc perceive them as well.

When any business adopts a cold callous unsympathetic and negative attitude towards any group. Sooner or later that business should expect some sort of eventual retaliation. Especially if their actions are directly responsible for preventing others from putting food on their table and paying their bills.

Now no one is trying to stop anyone from making a dollar and no one is certainly trying to control how many dollars somone earns. But consequently no one should be bulldozering others without concern or remorse....

If for no other reason than what goes around comes around and you might find yourself on the other side one day.

Killswitch · 01-26-2013, 03:11 PM

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.

FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed:

FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed:

So are you telling me that these guys, a group of hardworking and legitimate webmasters should just say "welp, oh well, as long as none of pornhub.com's ads are showing, then I'm okay losing a good portion of our income."

That's the dumbest thing I've every seen, and I will gladly call every single one of you who think this solution is even remotely viable a dumbfuck to your face.

This is my last post in such an idiotic fucking thread.... I can't even fathom trying to explain this anymore to such a group of individuals who lack any type of common sense.

Supz · 01-26-2013, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)...

http://safariadblock.com/

Fucking Awesome!

Captain Kawaii · 01-26-2013, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notinmybackyard

I love it when you talk dirty.

Do you realize that you are now talking like a pornographer from my generation ?

Hehe...I probably AM from your generation.

I'm just trying to put into a language we all get. I'm not against ADS, just the ones that pop up endlessly when you log in or hit a banner or an AD you think is a photo but is actually a pop up.

As a surfer, that shit pisses me off and makes me think to never buy anything from a porn site cause I am annoyed. Especially the site doing it to me. If people make sales from idiots who are ok with it...just wait for the chargebacks once the surfer's mommy sees the bill. lol.

Static ads, no problem, but live jasmin type hell? Fuck them.

I just voted for killswitch in the poll. It didn't go well for him.

notinmybackyard · 01-26-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Hehe...I probably AM from your generation.

I'm just trying to put into a language we all get. I'm not against ADS, just the ones that pop up endlessly when you log in or hit a banner or an AD you think is a photo but is actually a pop up.

As a surfer, that shit pisses me off and makes me think to never buy anything from a porn site cause I am annoyed. Especially the site doing it to me. If people make sales from idiots who are ok with it...just wait for the chargebacks once the surfer's mommy sees the bill. lol.

Static ads, no problem, but live jasmin type hell? Fuck them.

I just voted for killswitch in the poll. It didn't go well for him.

It is always a pleasure to meet someone else from the old neighbourhood.

I am in favour of almost anything that hurts the free porn supported by advertising. Granted I am against the piracy but let me add 2 other reasons.

1) I am old school and I have been at this for more than 40 years. In a very real way this is a "family" owned and operated business for me. Now I am not hurting financially by any measure. But I do not like seeing where the current attitudes and behaviours have gone and I have a grand child that is taking over my business. I would like to see my grand child continue business in the same way I do/did. In fact I do not want to see my grand child have to become a disrespectful asshole that believes they are entitled everything without ever lifting a finger.

2) There are too many fucking *punters* involved in this industry. And sadly a *punter* does not care about anyone except their desires and getting to play big shot. Porn occupies the same place as alcohol and cigarettes. Today's punter controlled chanels of distribution do little or nothing to prevent children from accesing our products and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Children got their hands on porn in the old days. But in the old days they did not get it directly from me (or someone like me) Instead they had to sneak around to get it. And that made a big difference in the way a young man grew up and treated a woman. Today's young men think it is perfectly acceptable to treat woman the same way he would treat a blow up doll.

EddyTheDog · 01-26-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.
...

Don't get used to it, but I agree with KillSwitch this time - The Adblock progs are a massive issue.

I have seen a few scripts that can fuck them up - I will see if I can find them.

slapass · 01-26-2013, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.

FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed:

FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed:

So are you telling me that these guys, a group of hardworking and legitimate webmasters should just say "welp, oh well, as long as none of pornhub.com's ads are showing, then I'm okay losing a good portion of our income."

That's the dumbest thing I've every seen, and I will gladly call every single one of you who think this solution is even remotely viable a dumbfuck to your face.

This is my last post in such an idiotic fucking thread.... I can't even fathom trying to explain this anymore to such a group of individuals who lack any type of common sense.

Fuck, I totally agree with you. Never thought that would happen. Suggesting people block ads is very counter productive to webmasters. Duh!

AdultKing · 01-26-2013, 04:34 PM

Advocating the blocking of normal on page ads on sites is just killing the golden goose, however so is throwing a dozen pop-ups and pop-unders to surfers.

Markul · 01-26-2013, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.

FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed:

FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed:

So are you telling me that these guys, a group of hardworking and legitimate webmasters should just say "welp, oh well, as long as none of pornhub.com's ads are showing, then I'm okay losing a good portion of our income."

That's the dumbest thing I've every seen, and I will gladly call every single one of you who think this solution is even remotely viable a dumbfuck to your face.

This is my last post in such an idiotic fucking thread.... I can't even fathom trying to explain this anymore to such a group of individuals who lack any type of common sense.

+1 on this

Killswitch · 01-26-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Don't get used to it, but I agree with KillSwitch this time - The Adblock progs are a massive issue.

I have seen a few scripts that can fuck them up - I will see if I can find them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass

Fuck, I totally agree with you. Never thought that would happen. Suggesting people block ads is very counter productive to webmasters. Duh!

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Advocating the blocking of normal on page ads on sites is just killing the golden goose, however so is throwing a dozen pop-ups and pop-unders to surfers.

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Originally Posted by Markul

+1 on this

Well fuck my ass, intelligent people do exist on GFY... And one of them is AdultKing.

SmutHammer · 01-26-2013, 04:48 PM

If there were no tubes, Freeones would make 10x's the money they get from selling ad space

topsiteking · 01-26-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Advocating the blocking of normal on page ads on sites is just killing the golden goose, however so is throwing a dozen pop-ups and pop-unders to surfers.

HushMoney · 01-26-2013, 05:08 PM

Blocker works great for me. Thanks! although I recommend this one: https://extensions.apple.com top of the list.

seeandsee · 01-26-2013, 05:18 PM

apple can suck my iASS

Best-In-BC · 01-26-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

My income is based on producing a product and selling it. I don't give a shit if these new ad-blocking solutions kill off all tube sites.

Zeiss · 01-26-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by freemarket

This guy goes on a webmaster forum and argues against online ads. What a guy.

D Ghost · 01-26-2013, 06:32 PM

So you don't offer banners for affiliates to "Advertise" your sites on their sites?

mikesouth · 01-26-2013, 06:45 PM

I love it.... hope they get one for every browser platform soon....BTW has anyone looked at AVN with that thing installed? Is it a big blank page?

BFT3K · 01-26-2013, 07:36 PM

Webmasters and affiliates made WAAAAY more money before tubes, so I stand by my original position...

Ad blockers kick ass!

DBS.US · 01-26-2013, 08:31 PM

DBS.US · 01-26-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth

BTW has anyone looked at AVN with that thing installed? Is it a big blank page?

Killswitch · 01-27-2013, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Webmasters and affiliates made WAAAAY more money before tubes, so I stand by my original position...

Ad blockers kick ass!

I'll be sure to use your content without any ads or links back to you, as you don't care about people advertising your sites for the use.

TommyM · 01-27-2013, 01:31 AM

What the f... ?

Jel · 01-27-2013, 02:25 AM

lol what a truly insane thread.

EddyTheDog · 01-27-2013, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Webmasters and affiliates made WAAAAY more money before tubes, so I stand by my original position...

Ad blockers kick ass!

I will still respect you if you say now it was a good idea - sort off - but there was a small technical hitch....

bl4h · 01-27-2013, 02:38 AM

the game keeps evolving. you have to create things that are actually useful. Like those mobile apps that find gay people in your area, or tools related to cams and other social porn. you cant just sit in your moms basement anymore and create google ads, create 5000 blogs or film naked chicks (well most people cant), and make money.

if you do come up with something neat, your only enemy is fighting copycats who will within a month snatch your idea. then its a battle to have more features with less cost. its all about keeping one step ahead

who doesnt wish you could film chicks and still make money. it will never again be the case

Major (Tom) · 01-27-2013, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)...

http://safariadblock.com/

Fucking Awesome!

What about popping a reduced price offer off of your own join page? What sayeth you on that?
ds

just a punk · 01-27-2013, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

These extensions are meant to blacklist everything and require you to whitelist sites, and normal users won't customize it that much, they'll just install the extension and go on their merry way never seeing an advertisement again.

And that is cool! No annoying popups, popunders and other shit around

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Say good bye to your income too. It's already a problem

Maybe just for you? You can see my sig with adblock enabled, right?

just a punk · 01-27-2013, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.

FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed:

FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed:

The second one looks much better. I just love the adblock extension for my FF

P.S. There are no ads at GFY for me too

Roald · 01-27-2013, 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over.

FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed:

FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed:

So are you telling me that these guys, a group of hardworking and legitimate webmasters should just say "welp, oh well, as long as none of pornhub.com's ads are showing, then I'm okay losing a good portion of our income."

That's the dumbest thing I've every seen, and I will gladly call every single one of you who think this solution is even remotely viable a dumbfuck to your face.

This is my last post in such an idiotic fucking thread.... I can't even fathom trying to explain this anymore to such a group of individuals who lack any type of common sense.

Would it be possible to detect if a user is using adblock, or something alike, before the site loads and serve them a slightly different page? Perhaps without ads but more textual promos.

Roald · 01-27-2013, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

The second one looks much better. I just love the adblock extension for my FF

P.S. There are no ads at GFY for me too

I would not use it for the simple fact that I like to see what other people (competition...) are doing. I think as a marketeer that makes perfect sense right...

just a punk · 01-27-2013, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

I would not use it for the simple fact that I like to see what other people (competition...) are doing. I think as a marketeer that makes perfect sense right...

Personally I don't want to see at popups and popunders. They are just annoying me, so I'm using adblock extension for a long time already. If you want to promote something, there are many other ways to do so that can't be blocked by adblock and will not annoy the surfers

P.S. Usually those ways are about 100 times more affective than popups and embedded ads. Just sain'.

Roald · 01-27-2013, 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Personally I don't want to see at popups and popunders. They are just annoying me, so I'm using adblock extension for a long time already. If you want to promote something, there are many other ways to do so that can't be blocked by adblock and will not annoy the surfers

P.S. Usually those ways are about 100 times more affective than popups and embedded ads. Just sain'.

I am not talking about wanting to promote something or how to. Seeing what others are doing is valuable even if they are using embeds or pops

PS, I hate popups and unders too, hence the reason I put down big offers (and I mean BIG) many many times already, just sayin

Adraco · 01-27-2013, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

Would it be possible to detect if a user is using adblock, or something alike, before the site loads and serve them a slightly different page? Perhaps without ads but more textual promos.

@Roald:
Yes, Nextri and his guys at Plugrush launched the campaign "remove adblock" a few weeks ago. He wrote about it in a thread here on GFY and you can see their campaign site here: http://www.removeadblock.com/

So try to get in contact with him or read the campaign site.

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BFT3K Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Narnia Posts: 10,764	How To Destroy The Tube Site Model Bye bye popunders (and all advertising)... http://safariadblock.com/ Fucking Awesome!

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Killswitch 👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2,304	My reaction when reading the responses in favor of using adblock from the people in this thread: __________________

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Killswitch 👏 REVOLUTIONARY 👏 Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 2,304	Everyone in this thread that thinks what this guy is suggesting is at all something this industry should consider, let me introduce exhibit A and B for the jury to look over. FreeOnes.com without Adblock installed: FreeOnes.com with Adblock installed: So are you telling me that these guys, a group of hardworking and legitimate webmasters should just say "welp, oh well, as long as none of pornhub.com's ads are showing, then I'm okay losing a good portion of our income." That's the dumbest thing I've every seen, and I will gladly call every single one of you who think this solution is even remotely viable a dumbfuck to your face. This is my last post in such an idiotic fucking thread.... I can't even fathom trying to explain this anymore to such a group of individuals who lack any type of common sense. __________________

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bl4h Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,282	the game keeps evolving. you have to create things that are actually useful. Like those mobile apps that find gay people in your area, or tools related to cams and other social porn. you cant just sit in your moms basement anymore and create google ads, create 5000 blogs or film naked chicks (well most people cant), and make money. if you do come up with something neat, your only enemy is fighting copycats who will within a month snatch your idea. then its a battle to have more features with less cost. its all about keeping one step ahead who doesnt wish you could film chicks and still make money. it will never again be the case Last edited by bl4h; 01-27-2013 at 02:39 AM..