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Old 01-25-2012, 02:06 PM   #1
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re: Filesonic old Whois screen shot -- thanks!

Thanks for the screen shot. I made a copy of it and plan on spending the rest of the day gathering up media sources to hand it to along with some background details on the story. Then tomorrow I will spend all day contacting media and relevant government agencies. I hope your screen shot is legitimate but I imagine the media will have ways to verify. Should be a hell of a story for them.

Just wanted to say thanks here since AVN pulled your thread for some reason.

And here is the screenshot you posted. I don't see any reason for it to be against the rules?

http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/171...6171617050.jpg
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:07 PM   #2
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And how do you know it's real?Could be photoshoped.
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:09 PM   #3
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And how do you know it's real?Could be photoshoped.
Could be. I imagine there are ways to verify so we will see.
http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/171...6171617050.jpg

I know there will be many interested. The question is why does AVN seem to want to pull this? Strange.
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:09 PM   #4
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what is that supposed to be?
fake address in ontario...fake postal code...with some montreal phone number

this could be anyone
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do a search in google for the email listed in the whois:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bosc...=Google+Search
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:12 PM   #6
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what is that supposed to be?
fake address in ontario...fake postal code...with some montreal phone number

this could be anyone
Gmail address matches some past ones
http://takedownpiracy.com/2010/01/co...nd-tube-sites/

I have no idea as to the authenticity of the screen shot. I am merely reposting it.
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what is that supposed to be?
fake address in ontario...fake postal code...with some montreal phone number

this could be anyone
bosco works for brazzers/mansef/mainwin

http://pastebin.com/f7e816792
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bosco works for brazzers/mansef/mainwin

http://pastebin.com/f7e816792
From a torrent site:
http://btmon.com/Video/Movies/The.Hi...torrent.5.html

Subject : Contact
bosco_bosco at 2006-06-28 14:38:26
hey aXXo.......can u contact me Via my email or ICQ
322145026 or [email protected] i have something to offer you ...you will
want to concider.it involves Making some moneyLater.waiting for you email.

if you dont know who axxo is

http://torrentfreak.com/interview-ax...on-bittorrent/


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http://pastebin.com/f7e816792
Is that aXXo as in all of the pirated shit all over torrent sites aXXo?
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Not just locking, but deleting them now?
once the lawyers start emailing threads go bye bye.
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[22:28] JuggCash Kurt: Everything that goes on pornhub from other sites are embeded with watermarks and verified by our content managment dept, its not stealing

So if they screen uploads, they cant hide behind "fair use"

correct?
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yep thats him
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i get a kick out of this regarding pornhub

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So if they screen uploads, they cant hide behind "fair use"

correct?
They can't hide behind common carrier / DMCA immunity.

Fair use, as a legal term, wouldn't apply regardless. Fair use is a specific legal construction related to using snippets of a work, such as quoting a few words from a book or a few seconds from a movie.

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They can't hide behind common carrier / DMCA immunity.

Fair use, as a legal term, wouldn't apply regardless. Fair use is a specific legal construction related to using snippets of a work, such as quoting a few words from a book or a few seconds from a movie.
Yeah that's what i meant.

Had that convo above been in a form of proper evidence, the feds would have a solid case to pull a second Megaupload stunt.
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I think Theo made a big mistake locking that thread, It doesn't bode well for the Manwin doesn't own AVN chant. There was enough in that thread to warrant discussion and Nathan/Fabian hadn't even commented in it.....
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Seems they are denying it, and claiming no proof of said association in locked thread.

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LUXEMBOURG, January 25, 2012 - In response to false allegations linking Manwin to FileSonic, made today on the industry message board GFY, Manwin issues the following statement:

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In light of the above, Manwin requests GFY look into the thread started by ?bbm? and request the user prove their claim, or face immediate banning ? as per the message board?s policy.
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they said they didnt own pornhub as well
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So if they screen uploads, they cant hide behind "fair use"

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They are saying it's just embeds from other sponsors.
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Is that aXXo as in all of the pirated shit all over torrent sites aXXo?
The one and only. Who do you think put and probably still puts 1000s of videos on those tubes?


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Yea, but they added WIN to their name. It's all good now.
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If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.

Our official statement states the facts.

An individual with the name Bosco ICQ 322145026 or with the email [email protected] has never worked for Manwin.

I do not speak for GFY, but I believe they blocked the thread because it contained false allegations without proof ? which goes against the posting policies.
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Good search term for info on this... Techboom which is the developing company behind Filesonic.

CEO of Techboom Wissam Alame(check Quora.com for the 2 people he is connected to and Linkedin as well)
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If anything, the information being posted on this thread connects FileSonic to Mansef. It has nothing to do with Manwin.

All dates stated above pre-dates the sale of Mansef assets to Manwin. This is no proof of Manwin involvement.
Were some Mansef assets not sold/transferred to Manwin?
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Good search term for info on this... Techboom which is the developing company behind Filesonic.

CEO of Techboom Wissam Alame(check Quora.com for the 2 people he is connected to and Linkedin as well)
http://www.quora.com/Wissam-Alame/followers

Matt Keez and Ouis sam Yous sef? I don't get the connection. Who are they?
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Here's a good read on how the whole thing went down from the start.

http://instapaperstories.tumblr.com/...-kings-of-smut
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