Which is better CCBill or Epoch - GoFuckYourself.com

Radical Bucks · 01-23-2012, 11:19 AM

Which is a better or far more advanced billing processor CCBill or Epoch ?

Would love to hear your reasons why one is your choice over the other.

DamianJ · 01-23-2012, 11:24 AM

Epoch's throughput is better
Epoch's rebills are better

CCBill has a system that affiliates (at least in the UK) trust.

So cascading is the answer.

The Ghost · 01-23-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ

Epoch's throughput is better
Epoch's rebills are better

CCBill has a system that affiliates (at least in the UK) trust.

So cascading is the answer.

Pretty much as DamianJ wrote ...

If only choosing 1 and having an affiliate program go with CCBill and can cascade to Epoch.. If using NATS or something similar Epoch primary (or something else).

videosc · 03-24-2012, 04:58 PM

I was going to post this same question. From reading through past threads here it looks like there are fans and haters of each company. I wonder if its just a Coke vs Pepsi or McDonalds vs Burger King question where the answer is simply a personal preference?

As far as getting both and using cascading, does that really make sense because you'd have to pay the Visa upfront fee to both companies, correct? It seems like for someone starting out they should just choose CCBill or Epoch and maybe add the other once their site takes off.

Zombaio and Verotel are also mentioned but with mixed opinions so I think someone starting out should stick with the two big players for the most trouble free experience. But which one...?

Mutt · 03-24-2012, 05:02 PM

I use CCBILL but use their cascading feature and Epoch is first in the cascade - I do believe Epoch produces more sales.

NerdScott · 03-24-2012, 05:53 PM

Tried ccbill and did not like it at all. Too many declines and bad support.
On the other hand, verotel does well for me.

redwhiteandblue · 03-24-2012, 05:57 PM

There's nothing actually wrong with Epoch's affiliate system, they send the cheques out every week just like CCBill do, and you can actually see referring urls for everything.

bns666 · 03-24-2012, 06:03 PM

ccbill's system is so 90s

topwebmodels_chris · 03-24-2012, 06:16 PM

I have used both and prefer Epoch over CCBill. Epoch has more approval transations, therfore less declines than Ccbill. Epoch has better service.
its good to have a cascade because if one processor declines the first transaction, it can cascade to the secondary billing company and if the sale/transaction goes through the second billing company, than you dont lose that sale.

topwebmodels_chris · 03-24-2012, 06:20 PM

duplicate

2MuchMark · 03-24-2012, 06:36 PM

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sojproductions · 03-25-2012, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt

I use CCBILL but use their cascading feature and Epoch is first in the cascade - I do believe Epoch produces more sales.

I thought about doing this, but, what happens if there are not enough ccbill sales to cover the affiliate payments that ccbill send out?

Mutt · 03-25-2012, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sojproductions

I thought about doing this, but, what happens if there are not enough ccbill sales to cover the affiliate payments that ccbill send out?

you need to send CCBILL the funds to cover the payouts to affiliates or they won't get paid.

sojproductions · 03-25-2012, 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt

you need to send CCBILL the funds to cover the payouts to affiliates or they won't get paid.

thanks for the info, didn't realise that was possible! could be a winning solution

CHMOD · 03-25-2012, 10:18 AM

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01-23-2012, 11:19 AM	#1
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DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	Epoch's throughput is better Epoch's rebills are better CCBill has a system that affiliates (at least in the UK) trust. So cascading is the answer.

03-24-2012, 04:58 PM	#4
videosc Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 375	I was going to post this same question. From reading through past threads here it looks like there are fans and haters of each company. I wonder if its just a Coke vs Pepsi or McDonalds vs Burger King question where the answer is simply a personal preference? As far as getting both and using cascading, does that really make sense because you'd have to pay the Visa upfront fee to both companies, correct? It seems like for someone starting out they should just choose CCBill or Epoch and maybe add the other once their site takes off. Zombaio and Verotel are also mentioned but with mixed opinions so I think someone starting out should stick with the two big players for the most trouble free experience. But which one...?

03-24-2012, 06:16 PM	#9
topwebmodels_chris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 100	I have used both and prefer Epoch over CCBill. Epoch has more approval transations, therfore less declines than Ccbill. Epoch has better service. its good to have a cascade because if one processor declines the first transaction, it can cascade to the secondary billing company and if the sale/transaction goes through the second billing company, than you dont lose that sale. Last edited by topwebmodels_chris; 03-24-2012 at 06:25 PM..

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topwebmodels_chris Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 100	duplicate Last edited by topwebmodels_chris; 03-24-2012 at 06:27 PM.. Reason: Duplicate.

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