$183 AWE Chargeback - GoFuckYourself.com

epitome · 11-20-2011, 01:28 PM

Happy Sunday.

FML

2intense · 11-20-2011, 01:32 PM

i had 292$ CB last period. all links removed.

Lace · 11-20-2011, 01:47 PM

Not sure why you'd promote them...but that's just me.

BIGTYMER · 11-20-2011, 01:49 PM

Damn that sucks. :\

epitome · 11-20-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lace

Not sure why you'd promote them...but that's just me.

I don't actively anymore but there are still lingering links.

signupdamnit · 11-20-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lace

Not sure why you'd promote them...but that's just me.

This. It's too bad most of these companies can now function without affiliates because it would have been pleasurable to watch them fail when the last decent affiliate out there finally got wise.

Chosen · 11-20-2011, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lace

Not sure why you'd promote them...but that's just me.

epitome · 11-20-2011, 04:20 PM

Speaking of cams, who are folks using for gay cams?

I sent over 100k uniques to VS and didn't even make $20 so they're a no-go.

I am not good at promoting cams but still managed to make a few cents per unique with AWE. Now I am just doing dating popunders rather than cams but would like a good cam program that has guys, too.

Money Tree was hit or miss...anybody doing good with them? Also didn't do good with gammas home cams.

seeandsee · 11-20-2011, 04:44 PM

4 cams: http://partners.sexier.com , end

porno jew · 11-20-2011, 04:45 PM

made good money with them this year.

biskoppen · 11-20-2011, 04:54 PM

I have a small cock

ish

diesel · 11-20-2011, 05:10 PM

Damn wow

digitalfantasies · 11-20-2011, 05:33 PM

what's wrong with AWE?

no bad experiences here....almost never CB... payments always fine...

AnalProbe · 11-20-2011, 05:42 PM

AWE ? Are you kiddin' me ? If you still promote the LunaJasmin you're asking for it.

CB's, cookies that die faster than they live, crap whitelabel, arrogance, terms etc etc

Slick · 11-20-2011, 09:02 PM

I just think it's fucking mental how a credit card company can just give someone back their money after they spend a couple of hours enjoying cam shows. Chargebacks are truly a form of legal robbery

stocktrader23 · 11-20-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Speaking of cams, who are folks using for gay cams?

I sent over 100k uniques to VS and didn't even make $20 so they're a no-go.

I am not good at promoting cams but still managed to make a few cents per unique with AWE. Now I am just doing dating popunders rather than cams but would like a good cam program that has guys, too.

Money Tree was hit or miss...anybody doing good with them? Also didn't do good with gammas home cams.

Unless you are talking about 100k popunders or something hit me up. Sign up in my downline and I'll figure out how to convert that crap. $20?

stocktrader23 · 11-20-2011, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slick

I just think it's fucking mental how a credit card company can just give someone back their money after they spend a couple of hours enjoying cam shows. Chargebacks are truly a form of legal robbery

It's only because it's card not present and on top of that adult which is even more high risk. They don't have time to investigate every claim, if these were signature purchases you could at least fight the chargebacks easily. Cost of doing business online.

epitome · 11-20-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

4 cams: http://partners.sexier.com , end

I will check them out when I am in front of my computer. You got a reflink I can use so you get credit?

stocktrader23 · 11-20-2011, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I will check them out when I am in front of my computer. You got a reflink I can use so you get credit?

I saw you were doing popunders, direct to a chatroom I assume? If that doesn't work out sign up here.

http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/...?track=epitome

And if popping the direct cam link doesn't get your a lot more money I'll put something custom together to try and get those numbers up. $1.00 per free join, got my first check in the mail 3 days after the period ended and it's from BoA.

jimmycooper · 11-20-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Speaking of cams, who are folks using for gay cams?

I sent over 100k uniques to VS and didn't even make $20 so they're a no-go.

I am not good at promoting cams but still managed to make a few cents per unique with AWE. Now I am just doing dating popunders rather than cams but would like a good cam program that has guys, too.

Money Tree was hit or miss...anybody doing good with them? Also didn't do good with gammas home cams.

Not a cam, but have you tried promoting VirtuaGuy?

I've averaged $0.12/unique since 10/1 by adding VirtuaGirl and Deskbabes peel ads to existing pages.

Totem Cash

epitome · 11-20-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Unless you are talking about 100k popunders or something hit me up. Sign up in my downline and I'll figure out how to convert that crap. $20?

I will hit you up as soon as I can stay out of the hospital long enough to concentrate.

I reverted to doing popunders because I sucked at everything else. I am obviously doing cams wrong. I've always said that about myself. I am also hit or miss on dating.

Tjeezers · 11-20-2011, 09:54 PM

AWE is old man
they ones did good for webmasters, but they imploded the system

No idea why you still expect honesty from a program that is based on stealing and changing the rules so they can keep on stealing

epitome · 11-20-2011, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I saw you were doing popunders, direct to a chatroom I assume? If that doesn't work out sign up here.

http://chaturbate.com/affiliates/in/...?track=epitome

And if popping the direct cam link doesn't get your a lot more money I'll put something custom together to try and get those numbers up. $1.00 per free join, got my first check in the mail 3 days after the period ended and it's from BoA.

Isn't that more for straight folks? I see cocks on there but always thought it was straight guys.

epitome · 11-20-2011, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

AWE is old man
they ones did good for webmasters, but they imploded the system

No idea why you still expect honesty from a program that is based on stealing and changing the rules so they can keep on stealing

The weird thing is they were the only cam company that consistently made me money. Only dropped actively promoting them after seeing how they responded to threads here.

Maybe because I was promoting less saturated cameraboys.com?

epitome · 11-20-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Not a cam, but have you tried promoting VirtuaGuy?

I've averaged $0.12/unique since 10/1 by adding VirtuaGirl and Deskbabes peel ads to existing pages.

Totem Cash

I know I am signed up. I think I had problems with the tools and got frustrated and didn't bother because I didn't even know if it'd be worth it.

I am a lot like Robbie and promote what gets me hard and that didn't do it for me so I didn't go through the hassle of trying to figure it out.

Maybe I should revisit them...

cooldude7 · 11-20-2011, 10:00 PM

go pps then.

epitome · 11-20-2011, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cooldude7

go pps then.

I've never been one to trust PPS with cam programs. Any cam program.

Tjeezers · 11-20-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

The weird thing is they were the only cam company that consistently made me money.

Join the club, we are a growing group of people who are getting fucked. As soon AWE changed webmaster terms and rules, they unlocked the closet with butcher tools

jimmycooper · 11-20-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I know I am signed up. I think I had problems with the tools and got frustrated and didn't bother because I didn't even know if it'd be worth it.

I am a lot like Robbie and promote what gets me hard and that didn't do it for me so I didn't go through the hassle of trying to figure it out.

Maybe I should revisit them...

Yeah, I had signed up about a year ago but never really knew how to promote them and am really not even sure what prompted to me to start a few months ago but it turned out well with very little extra work. Anyway, get well!

stocktrader23 · 11-20-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Isn't that more for straight folks? I see cocks on there but always thought it was straight guys.

Gay traffic doesn't seem to care on cams. Go look at the names watching the straight men on cam and this will become apparent, lol. Anyhow, I'm not sure how much traffic you have but I know cams and can throw together some tools to increase conversions one way or another regardless of sponsor. This just happens to be kicking ass right now, really nice setup and I average some very nice money per click. 3 month cookies too in case you did want to keep popping.

epitome · 11-20-2011, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Yeah, I had signed up about a year ago but never really knew how to promote them and am really not even sure what prompted to me to start a few months ago but it turned out well with very little extra work. Anyway, get well!

Thanks. I will hit you up when I am better. Thanks for the well wishes.

And as for your other post, that makes sense. Going on cam4 and gays guys are begging the straight guys to do stuff and the straight guys for the most part welcome the attention.

porno jew · 11-20-2011, 10:42 PM

there is a gay section on chaturbate but it's a whopping buck per email sign up that's it.

epitome · 11-20-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

there is a gay section on chaturbate but it's a whopping buck per email sign up that's it.

I've checked that site out at least five times to see how it's grown and never noticed the gay section myself. Whoops.

If they look anything like the straight guys on there then maybe I don't want to see it. LOL

stocktrader23 · 11-20-2011, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

there is a gay section on chaturbate but it's a whopping buck per email sign up that's it.

Send more signups.

Also, I am averaging as much per click with them as I was with clickcash right before I sold my network. I actually market the sites I promote before I send a surfer off though, your mileage may vary. I plan on posting some rather large checks in the near future, just got my first one after 5 days and have a lot of growing to do.

2MuchMark · 11-20-2011, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 2intense

i had 292$ CB last period. all links removed.

This might be a mistake.

You are blaming the merchant for no reason at all. Did they provide bad service? Probably not; since you were promoting them they you must like them and trust that their service was good enough. How do you know if the customers who's cards were charged back were dissatisfied? Or if the cards used weren't stolen or used without consent? Answer: You don't. Not only are you blaming the merchant, and uniting them by removing your links, you're hurting your own income at the same time.

2MuchMark · 11-21-2011, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Speaking of cams, who are folks using for gay cams?

I sent over 100k uniques to VS and didn't even make $20 so they're a no-go.

VideoSecrets is huge, so you should not dismiss them. Did you try calling your rep at VS and asking them for advice? You didn't say where your 100k of traffic came from so why blame VS? How do you know the source of your traffic isn't poor?

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Originally Posted by epitome

I am not good at promoting cams but

ah ha...

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Originally Posted by epitome

Also didn't do good with gammas home cams.

Jeeezuz...

Dude you just answered your own questions!

Clearly something is wrong, but I don't think its VS, Gamma, etc..

Sexier · 11-21-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by epitome

I will check them out when I am in front of my computer. You got a reflink I can use so you get credit?

Or contact me and I will put you under seeandsee.. contact is on sig

2MuchMark · 11-21-2011, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick

I just think it's fucking mental how a credit card company can just give someone back their money after they spend a couple of hours enjoying cam shows. Chargebacks are truly a form of legal robbery

Like it or not, it's a risk that both Merchants and affiliates share. As an affiliate however you actually have no real risk unless you are paying too much for your own traffic.

epitome · 11-21-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

VideoSecrets is huge, so you should not dismiss them. Did you try calling your rep at VS and asking them for advice? You didn't say where your 100k of traffic came from so why blame VS? How do you know the source of your traffic isn't poor?

ah ha...

Jeeezuz...

Dude you just answered your own questions!

Clearly something is wrong, but I don't think its VS, Gamma, etc..

I guess you missed me saying I did fine with AWE but stopped actively promoting them because of how they responded to threads here?

I hit up VS before and they were no help. Now its vendzilla there and I would rather saw off my arm than deal with him.

Gamma, well I am not the only one who didn't make money there but they're newer and will probably do better in time.

So to recap, AWE made me money with my popunders just fine and I have one particular money tree tool that works well but others didn't.

epitome · 11-21-2011, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by **********

Like it or not, it's a risk that both Merchants and affiliates share. As an affiliate however you actually have no real risk unless you are paying too much for your own traffic.

The model loses money too right? Everybody suffers?

epitome · 11-21-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier

Or contact me and I will put you under seeandsee.. contact is on sig

Will do, thanks. Same as with the other people let me recover and I am on it. Thanks.

11-20-2011, 01:28 PM	#1
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	$183 AWE Chargeback Happy Sunday. FML

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11-20-2011, 04:20 PM	#8
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,156	Speaking of cams, who are folks using for gay cams? I sent over 100k uniques to VS and didn't even make $20 so they're a no-go. I am not good at promoting cams but still managed to make a few cents per unique with AWE. Now I am just doing dating popunders rather than cams but would like a good cam program that has guys, too. Money Tree was hit or miss...anybody doing good with them? Also didn't do good with gammas home cams.

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porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	made good money with them this year.

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