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Old 11-03-2011, 10:46 AM   #1
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Credit Card Theft and Adult Transactions

So I recently received a new credit card, and over the past week or so, used it a few times. Today I checked my balance online, and found out that it has been suspended.

Upon further investigation, I find out someone in the UK has attempted a number of transactions today, which triggered the ban on the new card.

I've reviewed my transactions with this card for which there haven't been many, and most of them have been run-of-the-mill things, at places I frequent often.

One of the transactions however, was a very small adult-related one, which is relatively irrelevant, except for my mindset. As it was an adult-related transaction, even though there is no specific logic to this assumption, I now wonder (for no good reason) if I would trust this particular 3rd party biller again, for anything in the future.

I am in the biz, and even I am now questioning how my shit was hijacked, and mentally deciding (without any proof or reason) that it must have been the adult-related transaction that was to blame.

I will not name the site or the billing company, because there is zero proof they were involved, but I likely won't join a site via this 3rd party processor again, just because it is all so coincidental. All I will say is it WAS NOT CCBill, but naming the biller or site is meaningless, because it's all just assumption and conjecture.

There is no reason to post this, other than to point out the obvious, which is that there are many people out there who are scared to use a credit card for an adult-related transaction, and it is easy for anyone (including myself) to think twice about pulling out a card, especially when there truly is so much free shit out there as a fall-back.



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Old 11-03-2011, 10:51 AM   #2
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That is a valid reason to never buy porn and get it from tubes
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:21 AM   #3
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That is a valid reason to never buy porn and get it from tubes
I am sure this is something that is repeated every day... unfortunately.
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:46 AM   #4
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Speaking of this, a couple months ago I had my paypal account hacked and it was definitely by one of the sponsors I used to promote because I originally used the same password to signup for all the sponsors used. It was totally my fault for using the same password but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth knowing a sponsor would do that (and no I never narrowed it down to who did it).
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:59 AM   #5
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I've reviewed my transactions with this card for which there haven't been many, and most of them have been run-of-the-mill things, at places I frequent often.

One of the transactions however, was a very small adult-related one, which is relatively irrelevant, except for my mindset. As it was an adult-related transaction, even though there is no specific logic to this assumption, I now wonder (for no good reason) if I would trust this particular 3rd party biller again, for anything in the future.
But it could as well been done by one of the other places you bought something from, right? I think security is highest at these third party billers and if there are some that have a lot to lose, it's these third party billers. Imagine how much easy money they make and ask yourself why they would put that at stake by using credit card details for fraudulent purchases. It just wouldn't be worth it.

If I was a con artist that wanted to get my hands on credit card details I would.. o well never mind I better not tell because you don't know who's reading here.
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Old 11-03-2011, 12:22 PM   #6
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But it could as well been done by one of the other places you bought something from, right? I think security is highest at these third party billers and if there are some that have a lot to lose, it's these third party billers. Imagine how much easy money they make and ask yourself why they would put that at stake by using credit card details for fraudulent purchases. It just wouldn't be worth it.

If I was a con artist that wanted to get my hands on credit card details I would.. o well never mind I better not tell because you don't know who's reading here.
I didn't specifically accuse a 3rd party processor, or any specific adult site... I'm just airing out my thought process. When something like this happens, even I, a person who runs an adult network, will jump to such a conclusion - rightfully or wrongfully.

The idea that ANY company that accepts credit cards online somehow has more to lose via a breach than another company, is silly. No company wants this to happen ever... adult OR mainstream. It is just easier to assume the adult transaction is to blame for the breach, mentally - right or wrong.

It works against us, and it sucks. I was just stating the obvious...

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Old 11-03-2011, 12:26 PM   #7
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Speaking of this, a couple months ago I had my paypal account hacked and it was definitely by one of the sponsors I used to promote because I originally used the same password to signup for all the sponsors used. It was totally my fault for using the same password but it leaves a bad taste in my mouth knowing a sponsor would do that (and no I never narrowed it down to who did it).
Adult-on-Adult deceit is a whole other issue. A few months ago I gave an affiliate a free login because he wanted to download content to create his own promo material.

It was a very specific login, and last week I found it had been posted on a number of password-sharing sites.

I guess the moral of the story is: trust no-one.
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Old 11-03-2011, 01:23 PM   #8
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Just curious, how many of those charges were restaurants, where you handed your card to a random teenager who walked off with it and came back ten minutes later?
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Old 11-04-2011, 05:30 AM   #9
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this is serious shit., damn, billers and sponsors., .,wtf
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Old 11-04-2011, 07:03 AM   #10
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You guys should sue those billers who bang your credit cards!
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