Why PitBulls should be banned as a race in itself

[OY]

How many more news tidbits like this do we need to read before a complete ban is imposed on the breed?

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Pit bull kills Pacifica woman in her home
Officers are called after the woman's husband finds her lying injured on the living room floor. The dog is shot and killed by police.

Associated Press

August 12, 2011
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Authorities say a pit bull has killed a 32-year-old woman in her Pacifica, Calif., home.

Officers were called after Darla Napora's husband arrived home a little after noon Thursday and found her lying injured on the living room floor.

Pacifica Police Capt. Dave Bertini said officers found Napora suffering from major trauma and unresponsive. Emergency personnel pronounced her dead at the scene.

Greg Napora told police that the couple's adult dog had attacked his wife while he was at work.

A police spokesman said officers shot and killed the dog as it approached emergency workers trying to assist the woman.

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I have said this for years - the PitBulls are, no matter how you dice and slice it, a breed that needs to be exterminated.

[cherrylula]

Can we get rid of all the pugs too? I can't stand those ugly things. They snort, their eyes pop out and they are a burden on humanity.

CATS ARE NEXT.

[OY]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

Can we get rid of all the pugs too? I can't stand those ugly things. They snort, their eyes pop out and they are a burden on humanity.

CATS ARE NEXT.

My sister has one. It is truly a weird creature.

[TheSquealer]

Here is a funny thing about arguing about pit bulls.

I can take a dog.. say a Blue Heeler as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog adn not teach it anything. Instinctively, it runs around trying to herd things. That's OK and people will just say "well, thats what they are bred to do"

Then I can take a pit bull as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog and not teach it anything. It then attacks someone, hurting them badly or killing them. People then say "oh... it can't be the dog, it has to be the owners".

[12clicks]

Oystein, I'm with you, brother.
Besides the breed, the trash that tends to own them adds to their danger

[amateurbfs]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Here is a funny thing about arguing about pit bulls.

I can take a dog.. say a Blue Heeler as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog adn not teach it anything. Instinctively, it runs around trying to herd things. That's OK and people will just say "well, thats what they are bred to do"

Then I can take a pit bull as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog and not teach it anything. It then attacks someone, hurting them badly or killing them. People then say "oh... it can't be the dog, it has to be the owners".

Amen.

[cherrylula]

Originally Posted by Oystein

My sister has one. It is truly a weird creature.

They don't allow them on planes in China anymore because too many freaked out and their eyeballs pop out, they choke and can't breathe. lol

Poor little guys, what an ugly breed with so many health problems.

They should just breed all the pugs and pitbulls together! Maybe that would fix both breeds!

Or we can have really ugly snorting things that wanna rip your neck out!

[ottopottomouse]

When you ban pitbulls people just breed oversized and selected for aggression staffordshire bull terriers instead - it's the type of person that wants to own one that's the problem.

[AdultKing]

The other day in Melbourne a pit bull attacked a woman and her 4 year old child in the street the four year old died from her injuries.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-1...t-bull/2845710

[marcop]

Originally Posted by cherrylula

CATS ARE NEXT.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... cats are soooooooooooooooooooooo cute . . . .

[OY]

Originally Posted by 12clicks

Oystein, I'm with you, brother.
Besides the breed, the trash that tends to own them adds to their danger

Very true Ron - most of them are right and left wing nuts too!

[OY]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

The other day in Melbourne a pit bull attacked a woman and her 4 year old child in the street the four year old died from her injuries.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-1...t-bull/2845710

Exactly....

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

When you ban pitbulls people just breed oversized and selected for aggression staffordshire bull terriers instead - it's the type of person that wants to own one that's the problem.

You mean Pitbulls can be bred to be aggressive?

Er... i mean "yeah, its the owners"

[Sly]

I want to ban people that treat their dogs like people. Drives me nuts.

No, your dog begging at my knee while I'm trying to eat is not appealing or cute.

[L-Pink]

I feel sorry for pitbulls. They have a disproportionate amount of total assholes and low-life's as an owner group.

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[CyberHustler]

Pits were specifically bred to be dog aggressive and nice to humans. The man-eaters were destroyed during they're creation. They have one of the lowest human attack rates of any dog, and not one spayed or neutered pit bull has ever killed a human. They're a family dog. They're so nice to people, they're the worst guard dogs.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Dedi

Pits were specifically bred to be dog aggressive and nice to humans. The man-eaters were destroyed during they're creation. They have one of the lowest human attack rates of any dog, and not one spayed or neutered pit bull has ever killed a human. They're a family dog. They're so nice to people, they're the worst guard dogs.

10 second search on google

http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm

http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-do...bull-myths.htm

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[Babaganoosh]

If you ban pitbulls the trash that usually owns them will move on to another breed which will then become the new scapegoat. Pits aren't typically naturally aggressive or temperamental. I used to live in a city that banned pits and yes, pit attacks and complaints were non-existent. The scumbag pussies who wanted a pit would instead get a rott or a bull terrier (yes, really). Guess which dogs the city was considering banning next?

One of the only breeds I have seen that are naturally nasty is the chihuahua. Those rats should be eliminated world-wide.

[slapass]

""Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998. It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.) "

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by Dedi

Pits were specifically bred to be dog aggressive and nice to humans. The man-eaters were destroyed during they're creation. They have one of the lowest human attack rates of any dog, and not one spayed or neutered pit bull has ever killed a human. They're a family dog. They're so nice to people, they're the worst guard dogs.

This is a lie

[SallyRand]

Find the Pit Bull:

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

Stop The Hate:

http://www.understand-a-bull.com/













Cesar Millan and Daddy:

[CurrentlySober]

My Pal in america has a pitbull rescue... Lovely dog... Sweetest 'other persons' dog I have ever met...

We had a discussion once along these lines, and he said 'Shhh...' She doesn't KNOW she's a pitbull...

Which to me, kinda sums it up...

[SallyRand]

http://animal.discovery.com/tv/pit-boss/





Shorty Rossi:

http://animal.discovery.com/videos/p...crew-profiles/

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

10 second search on google

http://pit-bulls.christianfunfair.org/attacks.htm

http://www.dogsbite.org/dangerous-do...bull-myths.htm

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I can find things on google that say jesus was a black man with dreds...

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Dedi

I can find things on google that say jesus was a black man with dreds...

First link is nothing but news reports.


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[GatorB]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Here is a funny thing about arguing about pit bulls.

I can take a dog.. say a Blue Heeler as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog adn not teach it anything. Instinctively, it runs around trying to herd things. That's OK and people will just say "well, thats what they are bred to do"

Then I can take a pit bull as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog and not teach it anything. It then attacks someone, hurting them badly or killing them. People then say "oh... it can't be the dog, it has to be the owners".

And German Sheppards are trained to kill. Let's ban those. Akitas were trained to kill BEARS let's ban those. I'll take an Akita over a pit bull in a fight any day. Same with a rottweiler. I haven't been been attacked by a pit bull but I have been bit by a neighbor's German Sheppard on MY property unprovoked.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Top 3 agreessive breeds

They may be small, but new research found that one in five dachshunds have bitten or tried to bite strangers, and a similar number have attacked other dogs; one in 12 have snapped at their owners.


Known as sausage dogs for their elongated bodies, dachshunds have not, until now, had a fearsome reputation, although they were originally bred to hunt badgers in their setts.


However, they topped a list of 33 breeds which were rated for their aggression, after academics analysed the behaviour of thousands of dogs.


Chihuahuas, an even smaller breed, were the second most hostile, regularly snapping or attempting to bite strangers, family and other dogs. Another small favourite, the Jack Russell, was third.


In Illinois last week, Linda Floyd had to have her dachshund, called Roscoe, put down after the dog gnawed off her big toe while she slept. Mrs Floyd, 56, woke up too late because nerve damage from diabetes had left her with no feeling in her toes.

[JustJ]

We need people to start passing IQ tests before being allowed to own anything that has the potential for harm. If you're too stupid, no doggy for you..

[Jman]

Lots of people should NOT own dogs... Just like lots of people should NOT have kids... Such is life

[My Pimp]

Deutscher Schaeferhund can kill me too.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by GatorB

And German Sheppards are trained to kill. Let's ban those. Akitas were trained to kill BEARS let's ban those. I'll take an Akita over a pit bull in a fight any day. Same with a rottweiler. I haven't been been attacked by a pit bull but I have been bit by a neighbor's German Sheppard on MY property unprovoked.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Top 3 agreessive breeds

They may be small, but new research found that one in five dachshunds have bitten or tried to bite strangers, and a similar number have attacked other dogs; one in 12 have snapped at their owners.


Known as sausage dogs for their elongated bodies, dachshunds have not, until now, had a fearsome reputation, although they were originally bred to hunt badgers in their setts.


However, they topped a list of 33 breeds which were rated for their aggression, after academics analysed the behaviour of thousands of dogs.


Chihuahuas, an even smaller breed, were the second most hostile, regularly snapping or attempting to bite strangers, family and other dogs. Another small favourite, the Jack Russell, was third.


In Illinois last week, Linda Floyd had to have her dachshund, called Roscoe, put down after the dog gnawed off her big toe while she slept. Mrs Floyd, 56, woke up too late because nerve damage from diabetes had left her with no feeling in her toes.

There's a lot more to the issue than being bit. It's the damage done when someone is bit that separates pitbulls from chihuahuas.


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[Rochard]

My next door neighbor has a pitbull. He's not a gangster type; He's very Cuban. However, they keep their dog in the side yard - all day and all night. They basically feed it. This is not the way to treat a dog. I take my dog running every day; My dog spends all day with me and lets us know when she needs to go out to poop (and then lets herself back in).

The pitbull is kept in the side yard next to the pool filter. Pool guy came in one morning to do his job, dog fucking attacked him.

My neighbor has two kids. It's only a matter of time before that dog snaps.

[John-ACWM]

There sure are many violent animals and these might be very unpredictable.

[dynastoned]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Here is a funny thing about arguing about pit bulls.

I can take a dog.. say a Blue Heeler as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog adn not teach it anything. Instinctively, it runs around trying to herd things. That's OK and people will just say "well, thats what they are bred to do"

Then I can take a pit bull as a puppy. Raise it as a normal house dog and not teach it anything. It then attacks someone, hurting them badly or killing them. People then say "oh... it can't be the dog, it has to be the owners".

the pitbull breed wasn't developed to fucking attack people you moron.

Much of a dog's temperament relates to it's breed history and genetic inheritance. I won't go too deep into the history of the Pit Bull as there are many good books and websites that cover the origin and history of the breed. It is common knowledge however, that the Pit Bull breed was developed for blood sports: Bull baiting, bear baiting, and later, dogfighting. What is not common knowledge is that in the days of organized dogfighting, the handlers of the combatants were habitually IN THE PIT with the dogs for the duration of the fight. They were required to pick up and separate the dogs several times while the dogs were in full fight frenzy. Before the fight, the handlers were required to wash each other's dogs, and after the fight, the badly injured dogs were often treated at ringside by strangers. Any dog that attacked or bit a handler (even if it was the other dog's handler) or anyone else at any time was culled, often on the spot, and would never have been bred.

some people just shouldn't own a dog that they can't handle. any dog at any time can turn on it's owner. especially when the owner doesn't know shit about dogs or how to train them. you don't even know why the dog attacked. how do you know this bitch never trained her dog to not let her near it's food? she might have just reached down to pet the fucker while the dog was eating and it instinctively fucking raped her.

i was almost mauled to death by a dog (japanese akita) as a child had it not been for an owner with a 2x4 i would have. so i've learned a little bit about dogs since then. breeds have a lot to do with the temperament of dogs but owners are responsible for knowing how to train them as well. if anything they should make it illegal to just hand out pets to unfit fucking owners. quit blaming the dogs for this shit.

[Best-In-BC]

You manipulated dude, my advice, Pick up a book and read it. Sorry I got not patients for uneducated people, Stop projecting your bullshit concerns and you insecurities on others and live your life as if it is how you want to be treated.

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

There's a lot more to the issue than being bit. It's the damage done when someone is bit that separates pitbulls from chihuahuas.


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There is no damage diffrence in comparison to any other large breed, ask the vet

There are way to many myths right now about them

[dynastoned]

i mean by the logic of some of the people in this thread we should fucking exterminate white males because they are more prone to pedophilia and violence towards children.

According to the Survey of Inmates of State Correctional Facilities by the U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics, the following statistics have been recorded concerning the characteristics of offenders who violate and assault children.

* Fondling
* Child molestation
* Indecent practices
* Forcible rape
* Manslaughter
* Forcible sodomy
* Statutory rape
* Lewd acts with children
* Other sexual assaults

Those inmates who were convicted of committing violent acts against children were more like to have been white, a percentage of nearly 70%, than any other race.

welp theres the stats guys white males are more likely to fucking rape and kill your child than any other race. we should exterminate them.

[thickcash_amo]

I worked in an animal shelter, and pits get such a bad rap! You know what should be done, is eleminate dumb fucking closed minded people instead. This would could certainly use less of those!!

[scuba steve]

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

If you ban pitbulls the trash that usually owns them will move on to another breed which will then become the new scapegoat. Pits aren't typically naturally aggressive or temperamental. I used to live in a city that banned pits and yes, pit attacks and complaints were non-existent. The scumbag pussies who wanted a pit would instead get a rott or a bull terrier (yes, really). Guess which dogs the city was considering banning next?

One of the only breeds I have seen that are naturally nasty is the chihuahua. Those rats should be eliminated world-wide.

My friend has two pomerians, they like to nip and bite too non stop. I should train them to attack the trachea

[crockett]

They should start charging the owners for what the dog does.

If your dog mauls someone or badly injures them the owner should be charged with a battery or some other violent crime.

If your dog kills someone then you should be charged with assisted homicide.

No it probably wouldn't stop the typical low life's that own pits and other aggressive dogs from owning them, but it would at least make them responsible for the dogs actions.

[Best-In-BC]

Originally Posted by crockett

They should start charging the owners for what the dog does.

If your dog mauls someone or badly injures them the owner should be charged with a battery or some other violent crime.

If your dog kills someone then you should be charged with assisted homicide.

No it probably wouldn't stop the typical low life's that own pits and other aggressive dogs from owning them, but it would at least make them responsible for the dogs actions.

Sorry Crockett, I disagree with that cause good people own bad dogs all the time. That will have no effect like most laws and bi-laws and most likely would cause more harm than good like in Ontario where they have banned pitbulls and there dog attacks went up since pitbulls are not naturally in any-which way shape or form have any natural human aggression.

Education is the only real answer to most problems. We make laws to try to stop which generally make things worse. America is a Prime Example of Laws Gone Crazy and how its fucked up that country. The economy is just a cherry on top IMO.

[Best-In-BC]

And number on for infant and children related dog attacks causing bodily harm or death are shitshoes.

[OY]

I agree that owners are mostly to be blamed and not the dogs themselves. That said, when it comes to Pit-bulls it is proven time and time over that they are completely unpredictable and unfortunately can snap at any time, and the results are terrible with this particular breed. Like the Rottweiler and a few other breeds.

[Babaganoosh]

Originally Posted by scuba steve

My friend has two pomerians, they like to nip and bite too non stop. I should train them to attack the trachea

Haha, poms can be little cocksuckers too. Fortunately their bite is really weak.

[blackmonsters]

Pit bull lovers simply have not seen the way the dog latches onto the victim.

It's not just that the dog bites, it's the power of the bite and the fact that once
the pit believes it has a death grip it will not let go of the bite.

The pit bull has to be choked at the throat to get it to release another dog
from the bite, same thing when biting a human.

The pit bull has the strongest bite of any breed of dog and it knows it.



I have helped over 10 people break apart dogs. Every time it was a pit bull and
we had to choke it.
Just spraying water on most other dogs will work.


But, hey keep the fantasy alive until it eats your fucking baby.

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

When you ban pitbulls people just breed oversized and selected for aggression staffordshire bull terriers instead - it's the type of person that wants to own one that's the problem.

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

You mean Pitbulls can be bred to be aggressive?

Er... i mean "yeah, its the owners"

No. I mean if you wipe out Pitbulls like they are a banned breed here then people try to create a replica fighting dog from something else.

Start with Bull Terriers. Select the ones that are larger, stronger and most aggressive. Breed from them. Select the larger, stronger and most aggressive offspring. Carry on selective breeding until you have created the sort of monster that the twats who want a savage dog for status desire.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by GatorB

I haven't been been attacked by a pit bull but I have been bit by a neighbor's German Sheppard on MY property unprovoked.

Holy shit. Do you know the contact info for the owner? I want a dog that randomly attacks white trash!

People say Shepherds are smart, but wow.

Thanks in advance.

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Start with Bull Terriers. Select the ones that are larger, stronger and most aggressive. Breed from them. Select the larger, stronger and most aggressive offspring. Carry on selective breeding until you have created the sort of monster that the twats who want a savage dog for status desire.

Exactly, dogs can be bred to be aggressive. So its not like all dogs are exactly wonderful and happy. Breeds can have varying temperaments and aggression. Some breeds can be more aggressive than others. Further, they can be bred to be more aggressive and even "monsters" just by breeding. So that means the owners don't take a pit bull puppy and make it a monster, monsters are also just "bred" and that way by nature.

Thanks for the clarification.

[CyberHustler]

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by blackmonsters

Pit bull lovers simply have not seen the way the dog latches onto the victim.

It's not just that the dog bites, it's the power of the bite and the fact that once
the pit believes it has a death grip it will not let go of the bite.

The pit bull has to be choked at the throat to get it to release another dog
from the bite, same thing when biting a human.

The pit bull has the strongest bite of any breed of dog and it knows it.



I have helped over 10 people break apart dogs. Every time it was a pit bull and
we had to choke it.
Just spraying water on most other dogs will work.


But, hey keep the fantasy alive until it eats your fucking baby.

Here's our Alarm System, his name is Zee Zee. Great dog, not a mean bone in his body


Some breeds need to treated differently, I agree, but the notion of getting rid of entire breed because they are a favorite of assholes is Bull Shit. Zee Zee is a really cool dog, when we walk him, he's on a leash. Sleeps in the house.

[GAMEFINEST]

pitts are nice...depends on the owners..