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Old 08-06-2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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You sick pathetic idiots: Seal team 6 is wiped out in helicopter crash

Every since I was a teenager I have been racking my brain trying to figure out why 99% of the population are so dumb they will believe whatever the media and government tell them. I am at the point now that I am looking forward to all the pain and suffering these idiots will go through when the economy really crashes and the USA becomes one big police state. You idiots really fucking deserve what is right around the corner. Of course my family will also be caught up in the pain but at least I will take some comfort that all the idiots will also be suffering. No wonder the elites hate the dumbed down masses. I am beginning to side with them because they seem to be the only people I feel I could have an intelligent conversation with.

So Seal Team 6 gets sent on a fake mission to kill a fake Osamma. This was obvious to anyone with at least 2 brain cells. But of course as usual anyone who has common sense and points out this scam gets labeled a "conspiracy nut". As soon as this all went down I kept thinking to myself that that Seal Team 6 is going to have to die in order for the fake mission to be kept secret.

So yesterday 20 members of Seal Team 6 die in a helicopter crash. How fucking predictable was that?

Not going to make a long post here but just want to express my sincere hatred for all of you who let your country be taken over by a group of evil twisted fucks while you sit on your fat asses and and spend your time debating Democrat vs Republican politics, watch endless amounts of sports, and talk about Jersey Shore.

Let me break it down for you turds: Both the Dems and Repubs are BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE SAME PEOPLE. Got it? Good! Now you never have to wonder why this country is getting turned into one giant toilet regardless of what puppet is in the white house and what party is the majority in the Senate and Congress.
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KABUL, Afghanistan ? A military helicopter was shot down in eastern Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. special operation troops, most of them from the elite Navy SEALs unit that killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, along with seven Afghan commandos. It was the deadliest single incident for American forces in the decade-long war.

The Taliban claimed they downed the helicopter with rocket fire while it was taking part in a raid on a house where insurgents were gathered in the province of Wardak late Friday. It said wreckage of the craft was strewn at the scene. A senior U.S. administration official in Washington said the craft was apparently shot down by insurgents. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the crash is still being investigated.

NATO confirmed the overnight crash took place and that there "was enemy activity in the area." But it said it was still investigating the cause and conducting a recovery operation at the site. It did not release details or casualty figures.

"We are in the process of accessing the facts," said U.S. Air Force Capt. Justin Brockhoff, a NATO spokesman.

One current and one former U.S. official said that the dead included more than 20 Navy SEALs from SEAL Team Six, the unit that carried out the raid in Pakistan in May that killed bin Laden. They were being flown by acrew of the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment. Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because families are still being notified.

President Barack Obama mourned the deaths of the American troops, saying in a statement that the crash serves as a reminder of the "extraordinary sacrifices" being made by the U.S. military and its families. He said he also mourned "the Afghans who died alongside our troops."

The death toll would surpass the worst single day loss of life for the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan since the war began in 2001 ? the June 28, 2005 downing of a military helicopter in eastern Kunar province. In that incident, 16 Navy SEALs and Army special operations troops were killed when their craft was shot down while on a mission to rescue four SEALs under attack by the Taliban. Three of the SEALs being rescued were also killed and the fourth wounded. It was the highest one-day death toll for the Navy Special Warfare personnel since World War II.

With its steep mountain ranges, providing shelter for militants armed with rocket-propelled grenade launchers, eastern Afghanistan is hazardous terrain for military aircraft. Large, slow-moving air transport carriers like the CH-47 Chinook are particularly vulnerable, often forced to ease their way through sheer valleys where insurgents can achieve more level lines of fire from mountainsides.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai today gave the first public word of the new crash, saying in a statement that "a NATO helicopter crashed last night in Wardak province" and that 31 American special operations troops were killed. He expressed his condolences to President Barack Obama.

The helicopter was a twin-rotor Chinook, said an official at NATO headquarters in Brussels. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said he was receiving his information from an Afghan officer in Kabul.

The crash took place in the Sayd Abad district of Wardak province, said a provincial government spokesman, Shahidullah Shahid. The volatile region borders the province of Kabul where the Afghan capital is located and is known for its strong Taliban presence.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said in a statement that Taliban fighters downed the helicopter during a "heavy raid" in Sayd Abad. He said NATO attacked a house in Sayd Abad where insurgent fighters were gathering Friday night. During the battle, the fighters shot down the helicopter, killing 31 Americans and seven Afghans, he said, adding that eight insurgents were killed in the fight.

There have been at least 17 coalition and Afghan aircraft crashes in Afghanistan this year.

Most of the crashes were attributed to pilot errors, weather conditions or mechanical failures. However, the coalition has confirmed that at least one CH-47F Chinook helicopter was hit by a rocket propelled grenade on July 25. Two coalition crew members were injured in that attack.

Meanwhile, in the southern Helmand province, an Afghan government official said today that NATO troops attacked a house and inadvertently killed eight members of a family, including women and children.

NATO said that Taliban fighters fired rocket propelled grenades and small arms fire at coalition troops during a patrol Friday in the Nad Ali district.

"Coalition forces responded with small arms fire and as the incident continued, an air strike was employed against the insurgent position," said Brockhoff. He added that NATO sent a delegation to meet with local leaders and investigate the incident.

Nad Ali district police chief Shadi Khan said civilians died in the bombardment but that it was unknown how many insurgents were killed.

Helmand, a Taliban stronghold, is the deadliest province in Afghanistan for international troops.

NATO has come under harsh criticism in the past for accidentally killing civilians during operations against suspected insurgents. However, civilian death tallies by the United Nations show the insurgency is responsible for most war casualties involving noncombatants.

In south Afghanistan, NATO said two coalition service member were killed, one on Friday and another today. The international alliance did not release further details.

With the casualties from the helicopter crash, the deaths bring to 365 the number of coalition troops killed this year in Afghanistan and 42 this month.
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:46 AM   #2
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Old 08-06-2011, 11:48 AM   #3
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Yes, Americans are 'all' idiots (and fat)... 'all' Asians can't drive.. 'all' British people have bad teeth.. 'all' Nigerians are scammers.. 'all' Russians are hackers etc etc.

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Yes, Americans are 'all' idiots (and fat)... 'all' Asians can't drive.. 'all' British people have bad teeth.. 'all' Nigerians are scammers.. 'all' Russians are hackers etc etc.

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Read my post fuckhead. I did not say "all". I said 99%. Make that 99.9% because you just upped the figures.
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CNN is reporting its the same section but not the actual team.

If true, there goes your conspiracy theory.

I did think "how convenient" but then heard that.
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Now they just need to kill the people that killed the people that killed Osama.

And then kill whoever ordered killing the people that killed the people that killed Osama.

And then kill whoever ordered killing the person that ordered killing the people that killed the people that killed Osama.

And then
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Formed in the aftermath of the botched 1980 attempt to rescue 52 Americans held hostage in the U.S. embassy in Tehran, the unit is tasked with carrying out highly secret missions that are often officially denied by the US military and government.

They exist outside military protocol; engage in operations that are at the highest level of classification and often outside the boundaries of international law. To maintain plausible deniability in case they are caught, records of black operations are rarely, if ever, kept.

In interviews with Navy Seal members about information of Team 6 there response was simply: ?They don?t exist?.

SEAL Team Six is an elite within an elite.

Team 6 poached the top operatives from other SEAL units and trained them even more intensely from there.

Team 6 is normally devoted to missions with maritime authority: ship rescues, oil rigs, naval bases or land bases accessible by water.
As luck would have it, they are the only guys who really know what happened during the alleged Osama raid and kill. What they were doing in Afghanistan is anyone's guess.

The elite of the elite was able to fly in and out of Pakistan, bypass their radar, kill Osama and everyone else in the compound, and do so while one of their helicopters was disabled. But they get hit and killed by a Taliban rocket while cruising around Afghanistan.

Sure, why not.
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So Seal Team 6 gets sent on a fake mission to kill a fake Osamma. This was obvious to anyone with at least 2 brain cells. But of course as usual anyone who has common sense and points out this scam gets labeled a "conspiracy nut". As soon as this all went down I kept thinking to myself that that Seal Team 6 is going to have to die in order for the fake mission to be kept secret.
Yes, ugh, another conspiracy theorist moron.



Did it ever occur to you that being a Navy SEAL, the tip of the spear, is inherently very very dangerous --maybe the most dangerous job in the world?

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As soon as this all went down I kept thinking to myself that that Seal Team 6 is going to have to die in order for the fake mission to be kept secret.
I'm sure you posted your prediction somewhere....right?
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One thing I learned in the army, was that whenever someone "died in a helicopter crash" that is totally NOT what happened.
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With its steep mountain ranges, providing shelter for militants armed with rocket-propelled grenade launchers, eastern Afghanistan is hazardous terrain for military aircraft. Large, slow-moving air transport carriers like the CH-47 Chinook are particularly vulnerable, often forced to ease their way through sheer valleys where insurgents can achieve more level lines of fire from mountainsides.

The helicopter was a twin-rotor Chinook, said an official at NATO headquarters in Brussels.

Most of the crashes were attributed to pilot errors, weather conditions or mechanical failures. However, the coalition has confirmed that at least one CH-47F Chinook helicopter was hit by a rocket propelled grenade on July 25.
Maybe one of you military guys can explain this to me.

When they raided Osama, this super elite killing force went in on some super bad ass helicopter that supposedly had top secret technology and the US was sweating Pakistan giving intel from the one downed helicopter to someone else. But to engage against the Taliban they go in a NATO CH-47F Chinook that is large, slow moving, and an easy target.

I'm just a gullible civilian, but why is a group as elite as these guys flying some hunk of shit easy target when they could cruise through on one of the more advanced helicopters? That just sounds like a really, really stupid thing to do to your most advanced special forces unit who you've spent so much time and money training.

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Yes, ugh, another conspiracy theorist moron.



Did it ever occur to you that being a Navy SEAL, the tip of the spear, is inherently very very dangerous --maybe the most dangerous job in the world?

I would like to take this opportunity to give you a very special . I am finished caring about the masses. My transformation is complete. I now officially hate the masses more than I ever hated the elites who programming your simplistic brains and destroying your country. Now I completely understand why they are doing what they are doing. It is almost like there are 2 separate human species that exist. How can you be so clueless? I just cannot understand it and never could. May you get exactly what you fucking deserve. You brainless idiots deserve the same fate as cattle.
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so soldiers who get sent into the most dangerous missions imaginable ended up getting killed eventually?

whoa! must be a conspiracy!
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CNN is reporting its the same section but not the actual team.

If true, there goes your conspiracy theory.

I did think "how convenient" but then heard that.
Yah, it was stretching it, even for a conspiracy thread. DEVGRU or as they are known by the public, Seal Team Six, has more than 20 members.
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Yes, ugh, another conspiracy theorist moron.



Did it ever occur to you that being a Navy SEAL, the tip of the spear, is inherently very very dangerous --maybe the most dangerous job in the world?

it sure adds to the conspiracy for all the nuts who get off on that stuff.
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Maybe one of you military guys can explain this to me.

When they raided Osama, this super elite killing force went in on some super bad ass helicopter that supposedly had top secret technology and the US was sweating Pakistan giving intel from the one downed helicopter to someone else. But to engage against the Taliban they go in a NATO CH-47F Chinook that is large, slow moving, and an easy target.

I'm just a gullible civilian, but why is a group as elite as these guys flying some hunk of shit easy target when they could cruise through on one of the more advanced helicopters? That just sounds like a really, really stupid thing to do to your most advanced special forces unit who you've spent so much time and money training.
Black Hawks were used for raids. Shithooks are used for transportation. Why is that hard to understand?
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Maybe one of you military guys can explain this to me.

When they raided Osama, this super elite killing force went in on some super bad ass helicopter that supposedly had top secret technology and the US was sweating Pakistan giving intel from the one downed helicopter to someone else. But to engage against the Taliban they go in a NATO CH-47F Chinook that is large, slow moving, and an easy target.

I'm just a gullible civilian, but why is a group as elite as these guys flying some hunk of shit easy target when they could cruise through on one of the more advanced helicopters? That just sounds like a really, really stupid thing to do to your most advanced special forces unit who you've spent so much time and money training.




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Maybe one of you military guys can explain this to me.

When they raided Osama, this super elite killing force went in on some super bad ass helicopter that supposedly had top secret technology and the US was sweating Pakistan giving intel from the one downed helicopter to someone else. But to engage against the Taliban they go in a NATO CH-47F Chinook that is large, slow moving, and an easy target.

I'm just a gullible civilian, but why is a group as elite as these guys flying some hunk of shit easy target when they could cruise through on one of the more advanced helicopters? That just sounds like a really, really stupid thing to do to your most advanced special forces unit who you've spent so much time and money training.
Cause there is a slim to none chance that the people died of a helicopter crash. I've seen people get shot to shit and somehow, they died from a fucking car crash in the news.
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None of those killed in the crash is believed to have been part of the SEALs mission that killed bin Laden, but they were from the same unit as the bin Laden team.

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Maybe one of you military guys can explain this to me.

When they raided Osama, this super elite killing force went in on some super bad ass helicopter that supposedly had top secret technology and the US was sweating Pakistan giving intel from the one downed helicopter to someone else. But to engage against the Taliban they go in a NATO CH-47F Chinook that is large, slow moving, and an easy target.

I'm just a gullible civilian, but why is a group as elite as these guys flying some hunk of shit easy target when they could cruise through on one of the more advanced helicopters? That just sounds like a really, really stupid thing to do to your most advanced special forces unit who you've spent so much time and money training.
The CH47 is large but its actually one of the fastest helicopters we have. It can carry almost 3x as many personnel as a Blackhawk plus a slingload of over 25,000lbs and it operates at density altitudes and temperatures where a Blackhawk cant.
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If anyone is interested, there's a very good article about what exactly happened on the bin Laden raid, including details about the planning and execution, in this week's New Yorker magazine.
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the intellectual elites of the world have been monitoring this idiotic thread and want to let you know your application has been rejected.
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The CH47 is large but its actually one of the fastest helicopters we have. It can carry almost 3x as many personnel as a Blackhawk plus a slingload of over 25,000lbs and it operates at density altitudes and temperatures where a Blackhawk cant.
There goes that conspiracy theory.
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Black Hawks were used for raids. Shithooks are used for transportation. Why is that hard to understand?
If the US military puts their most elite unit in a slow moving shit box, and puts them in that shit box with Afghan soldiers who are nowhere near as trained and could jeopardize the SEAL's mission, then it is easy to understand.

As an civilian who knows nothing about the military, not even I would stick such a well trained unit in a slow moving target along side with Afghan soldiers. They would have the best training, the best weapons, the best intel, and the best transportation, and would not travel with anyone who could jeopardize so much as one of them going to take a piss. It just doesn't make any sense to fly a slow moving craft full of your very BEST soldiers through hostile territory. But call me crazy.

Maybe they did. I'm just saying it doesn't make a lot of sense. You wouldn't transport 20 million dollars cash in a Lincoln Town Car full of Mexicans and drive it through the ghetto when you could transport it in a armored truck. Just sayin.
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No, just a guy who saw all this even as a child. I have always been fascinated by mass psychology, marketing, politics, religion, and history. I began looking into all this heavily when I was still a teenager. Back then I thought I could reason with people and get them to get out of the matrix but I was dead wrong. I no longer care anymore and feel the same contempt for the masses that the elites do. I understand them now. I guess they look at the world as one giant ant hill that can just be stepped on.

By the way I am probably one of the few people posting in this thread who has actually traveled to many areas of the world and studied history, culture, etc. No I never stayed in fancy hotels and focused on the touristy activities. Instead I would go to libraries, meet locals, and volunteer for archeological digs. I did not get my world view from some government approved text book or from the TV or movies. Why did I do this when most kids my age where getting drunk, absorbing mind numbing TV, and slacking of in colledge? It is because I always knew the official version of history and politics was completely bogus and as a young man I wanted to seek the truth.

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if all the guys from the osama mission were killed in that crash, id be worried...lol
however it seems they weren't..so...lets watch the others
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you are not that bright yourself. have a little compassion and humility.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:46 PM   #33
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None of those killed in the crash is believed to have been part of the SEALs mission that killed bin Laden, but they were from the same unit as the bin Laden team.

lol those dastardly illuminatis failed again! heh
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:46 PM   #34
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The CH47 is large but its actually one of the fastest helicopters we have. It can carry almost 3x as many personnel as a Blackhawk plus a slingload of over 25,000lbs and it operates at density altitudes and temperatures where a Blackhawk cant.
Why would the report say it's slow moving?

I honestly don't know ANYTHING about aircraft. Just basing my comments on what the media is saying.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:46 PM   #35
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LOL this post fucking rules. absolutely spot on, good for u dude, fuck these fat ass idiots. they are all over GFY. useless tards without a brain who really do deserve to be controlled.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:49 PM   #36
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It's funny when people comment without reading a thread. I love when people ask a question that has already been addressed multiple times.

I can understand that happen on a multi-page thread but not one like this.
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:52 PM   #37
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Old 08-06-2011, 12:52 PM   #38
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Why would the report say it's slow moving?

I honestly don't know ANYTHING about aircraft. Just basing my comments on what the media is saying.
because it was moving slow at the time?
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the intellectual elites of the world have been monitoring this idiotic thread and want to let you know your application has been rejected.
That actually made me chucke. Agent 488 I have read your posts for years and I do believe you are a sharp person.

Actually when I was 20 yrs old I guess I made it onto some list or something because I was ordering out of print books on history and various esoteric subjects. I was also debating my professors (I went to college but took semesters off to travel the world and actually educate myself instead of being indoctrinated). So I guess some people took notice of me. I did receive at that time an "invitation" into something. Not sure if it had anything to do with the fact I am related to a certain politician or what (not going to name him so don't even try). Anyway I was invited into something but at that time I still wanted to figure the world out for myself before I got caught up with people who I might actually not agree with. To this day I still kick myself for not looking into it and just throwing away my invitation. Not giving any more details because I was warned (very politely) not to so I will just leave at that. No doubt some of you will ridicule me for this post but that is ok with me. Does no affect me because I know I am dealing with people who are not fully aware of of how much mass psychology affects their daily lives.

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If anyone is interested, there's a very good article about what exactly happened on the bin Laden raid, including details about the planning and execution, in this week's New Yorker magazine.
Boggles the mind why such information is given or leaked to the press.
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No, just a guy who saw all this even as a child. I have always been fascinated by mass psychology, marketing, politics, religion, and history. I began looking into all this heavily when I was still a teenager. Back then I thought I could reason with people and get them to get out of the matrix but I was dead wrong. I no longer care anymore and feel the same contempt for the masses that the elites do. I understand them now. I guess they look at the world as one giant ant hill that can just be stepped on.

By the way I am probably one of the few people posting in this thread who has actually traveled to many areas of the world and studied history, culture, etc. No I never stayed in fancy hotels and focused on the touristy activities. Instead I would go to libraries, meet locals, and volunteer for archeological digs. I did not get my world view from some government approved text book or from the TV or movies. Why did I do this when most kids my age where getting drunk, absorbing mind numbing TV, and slacking of in colledge? It is because I always knew the official version of history and politics was completely bogus and as a young man I wanted to seek the truth.
so with all your worldly travels and enlightened view of the truth, you misread a news article and immediately come here and point your fingers at everyone else.

makes sense.
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lol, you will never get these idiots to see through the false 2-party paradigm... they're obsessed with it...
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so with all your worldly travels and enlightened view of the truth, you misread a news article and immediately come here and point your fingers at everyone else.

makes sense.
Look for the official story to change about a hundred times just like with the Osamma raid.
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Look for the official story to change about a hundred times just like with the Osamma raid.
that news article was not the official story eh. it was a breaking news story.
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Look for the official story to change about a hundred times just like with the Osamma raid.
Newspapers are usually pretty bad about "official stories." That whole "I need to be first" thingy.
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news stories, especially big ones in fucked up situations such as these, are going to evolve as the facts become more clear. wrong facts will be replaced, a narrative will be hammered out. just talk to any journalist. it's no big conspiracy.

it wont help that the military will keep some facts classified and spin will start coming from governments and the media. but that is nature of information now, not that they were killed to cover up the osama conspiracy.
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You know those illuminati bitches killed them.
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You a woman now?
Don't get DWB started or you will be booked for a shoot. hehe

On a lighter note, the Osama kill never seemed right as well... And the disposal of the body at sea...complying with Muslim rights...what a fucking joke. I've lived in Muslim world off and on since 1990. Nothing kosher about dumping the body in the ocean. Pure fabrication on US part.
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Now they just need to kill the people that killed the people that killed Osama.

And then kill whoever ordered killing the people that killed the people that killed Osama.

And then kill whoever ordered killing the person that ordered killing the people that killed the people that killed Osama.

And then
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lol, you will never get these idiots to see through the false 2-party paradigm... they're obsessed with it...
They are dimwitted and afraid unless it comes to porn scams...then they are masters it seems.... lol
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