Boycott any companies doing deals with Acacia...Lets take the fight to them

[Krome]

I would like to state from the start of this post that I have nothing to do with the IMPA.

In my opinion we must unite and boycott any companies that are doing deals with Acacia.

Do you sell traffic to Fantasy Man? Fuck him send it over to Lensman.

Do you buy from Omunique..Fuck them (There stuff is shit anyway)

...and all the other cockroaches who are funding the good looking packages coming through your doors and the lawyers that are about to put your bollocks in their mouths and squeeze tight.

United we must stand and divided we will never fall.

If you have purchased encoding software email customer support and ask who is going to pay your legal bill because of Acacia.
Put pressure on Real Play and Microsoft to fight them.

Do not pay Acacia anything. Tell them to issue legal action against you as quick as possible. They can not issue that many legal actions.

When at Internext laugh at the Acacia boys and urinate in their coffe.

Acacia wants a fight...lets fucking have it....We need organisations in every country world wide like the IMPA to issue proceedings against Acacia which they will lose due to not showing up. If we could have 20 victories world wide the battle and the war will be over.

Man I want a full scale fight here....

[Darren]

As Lensman helped in anyway on this?

[Krome]

The Jam

Listen to this when thinking about Acacia destruction tatics....

[Krome]

Originally posted by Darren
As Lensman helped in anyway on this?

Who cares....send the traffic anywhere but CE...

[jigg]

When at Internext laugh at the Acacia boys and urinate in their coffe.

hey keep that one a secret will ya

[CDSmith]

One of the best ways to support this cause is to make a donation or a series of smaller donations to the IMPA.


http://www.impai.org/

[BRISK]

[freeme]

boycotts are VERRY effective

I think this is a verry goood idea and will send a message to anyone else considering siding with acacia

We boycotted French products during the iraq war and it HURT their economy BIG time

Good Post!!!!!

[hvidlogspusher]

Its unbelivable that realplayer and micro$oft havnt done more against them already, realplayer must be making a hugh amount of money on the adult buiness

[Paul Markham]

I would agree with this the only proviso is if the company did the deal with Acacia we need to know if they are contributing behind the scenes to the IMPA cause.

In fact I will give a designer $50 to come up with two designs, both will be around the theme.

"We gave to the fight
What are you going to give
Support IMPA"

Sizes 120 x 60 and 468 x 60

I will get a list of donators from Spike and offer them the banners, free. They can put it up or not.

Only downside for the deigner is I'm going to give the $50 to Spike at the show. Fuck it make it $100.

Now someone come and buy something.

[Mutt]

Who is White Sands Communications?

Babenet is the all time scumbag porn company, not only have they ass raped the market we all depend on now they sign a license with Acacia.

Python now uses the name Pink Sands , too much of a coincidence, does anybody know if between their incarnation as Demurrel Enterprises and Pink Sands they were 'White Sands Communications Inc'?

Neither of these companies give a shit about the law, u can bet that if they signed licenses with Acacia there is much more to this story.

[Paul Markham]

Originally posted by hvidlogspusher
Its unbelivable that realplayer and micro$oft havnt done more against them already, realplayer must be making a hugh amount of money on the adult buiness

Did you listen to the radio broadcast it explains that fully.

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/liveshow.html

Down the page is the link to the Archived Live Shows July 23rd 2003

http://www.d-moneyshow.com/liveshow/dm07232003.wmv

[BRISK]

Originally posted by freeme
boycotts are VERRY effective

We boycotted French products during the iraq war and it HURT their economy BIG time

Big time?

[rodeto]

Anyone know for sure which company already made deal with Acacia ? I heard a rumor about Matrix .... ?

But I get my content from Paul Markham

[cherrylula]

Originally posted by Mutt
Who is White Sands Communications?

Babenet is the all time scumbag porn company, not only have they ass raped the market we all depend on now they sign a license with Acacia.

Python now uses the name Pink Sands , too much of a coincidence, does anybody know if between their incarnation as Demurrel Enterprises and Pink Sands they were 'White Sands Communications Inc'?

Neither of these companies give a shit about the law, u can bet that if they signed licenses with Acacia there is much more to this story.

i think whitesands is/was affiliated with babenet

[rooster]

Im starting to agree with a boycott. These companies that signed a deal should be ashamed of themself. Why give any ounce of credibility to those fucks.

Then they run around and are like, 'see, so and so signed a deal, these patents are legit '

Ive never known a jew to give money away without a fight, so something stinks.

[Hammer]

Originally posted by Krome
Do you sell traffic to Fantasy Man? Fuck him send it over to Lensman.

I'm unclear on this suggestion. Didn't Lensman cut a deal with Acacia. Could've sworn CE caved a few weeks ago.

[chodadog]

Krome. Have you donated any money to the IMPA? CECash have. What CECash did was smart. *IF* the attempts to invalidate the patents are unsuccessful, and CE Cash had not signed the agreement, they'd have to pay for 6 years in the past. We're talking millions of dollars here.

CECash are contributing to the IMPA, which is more than can be said for a bunch of the people who keep putting shit on them. Think about it. If i'm a CECash affiliate, and they hadn't signed the agreement, and the IMPA fail, CECash are gonna be out several millions of dollars. Who's gonna pay for that? It's gonna hurt CECash and CECash's affiliates.

[nuclei]

This is too funny:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=actg&d=d

[BRISK]

Originally posted by nuclei
This is too funny:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=actg&d=d

whats the funny part?

[Paul Markham]

Maybe it would be cheaper to buy out the company and put all the lawyers out of a job.

Or am I just thinking too logical?

[BRISK]

Originally posted by charly
Maybe it would be cheaper to buy out the company and put all the lawyers out of a job.

Or am I just thinking too logical?

Acacia is worth $33 million right now. Go for it.

[Vick]

What's not being considered here is the "terms" any of these companies agreed to with Acacia

For all anyone knows (outside of Acacia & said companies) it is possible that said companies could be receiving compensation in the form of stock, a non-litigation agreement, cash, free lifetime license (the patents expire in 2010, I believe) and or any of the above or other forms of compensation to allow Acacia to publicly state that these companies have licensed with them

[pornJester]

Originally posted by Krome

Put pressure on Real Play and Microsoft to fight them.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=155866

[freeme]

Originally posted by Vick
What's not being considered here is the "terms" any of these companies agreed to with Acacia

For all anyone knows (outside of Acacia & said companies) it is possible that said companies could be receiving compensation in the form of stock, a non-litigation agreement, cash, free lifetime license (the patents expire in 2010, I believe) and or any of the above or other forms of compensation to allow Acacia to publicly state that these companies have licensed with them

verrrrry true

[VirtuMike]

Originally posted by freeme


We boycotted French products during the iraq war and it HURT their economy BIG time

Yeah we showed those Frogs. Imagine how much more their Euro would be worth if we didn't boycott them. One of theirs is only worth 1.15 of ours.

[Mutt]

oh Vick that is definitely a real possibility that those who are coming to terms with Acacia have a hidden agenda now. Called playing both ends against the middle.

but we'll never know, judge people by prior actions.

Babenet ........ MUAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHHA........AHAHAAA AHAHA..............

[DTK]

Originally posted by Vick
What's not being considered here is the "terms" any of these companies agreed to with Acacia

For all anyone knows (outside of Acacia & said companies) it is possible that said companies could be receiving compensation in the form of stock, a non-litigation agreement, cash, free lifetime license (the patents expire in 2010, I believe) and or any of the above or other forms of compensation to allow Acacia to publicly state that these companies have licensed with them

Exactly, Vick...

[nwbsd]

I have a question....


So let's see, I as a webmaster can get hit by acacia for linking to a video by a sponsor who is not licensed by acacia.

On the other hand if I link to a video of a sponsor that is licensed by acacia they can't come after me because the stream is licensed, since I am not aiding in the infringement of their patent.

is that correct?

[BRISK]

Originally posted by nwbsd
I have a question....


So let's see, I as a webmaster can get hit by acacia for linking to a video by a sponsor who is not licensed by acacia.

On the other hand if I link to a video of a sponsor that is licensed by acacia they can't come after me because the stream is licensed, since I am not aiding in the infringement of their patent.

is that correct?

It's a bit more complicated than that.

[Scootermuze]

Originally posted by nwbsd
I have a question....


So let's see, I as a webmaster can get hit by acacia for linking to a video by a sponsor who is not licensed by acacia.

On the other hand if I link to a video of a sponsor that is licensed by acacia they can't come after me because the stream is licensed, since I am not aiding in the infringement of their patent.

is that correct?

Not according to their claims..

They get paid by the sponsor, they get paid by affiliates of that sponsor as well..

[wonton]

I vote for a boycott. Get the collaborators and that deters future collaborators.

[Cindyff]

Ok for this to work we need a complete list of companies who have signed with ACACIA.

Then we need to post it on every webmaster board known to man as well as all resource sites. Get the word out to as many webmasters as possible .

Cindy xx

[Krome]

I could set up a site listing the companies that have struck a deal together and then everyone can use that as a reference.

[Cindyff]

Originally posted by Krome
I could set up a site listing the companies that have struck a deal together and then everyone can use that as a reference.

Go for it

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by nwbsd
I have a question....


So let's see, I as a webmaster can get hit by acacia for linking to a video by a sponsor who is not licensed by acacia.

On the other hand if I link to a video of a sponsor that is licensed by acacia they can't come after me because the stream is licensed, since I am not aiding in the infringement of their patent.

is that correct?

Dude I think they'll come after you too. So essentially they're trying to get 2% of revenues from your sponsor and 2% of revenues from you made from that sponsor. If ACACIA were the government, that would be double taxation, would it not?

[smut monger]

Count me in.

[Krome]

OK so how many people can we get in on this?

If only 200 go in who are active webmasters it is going to hurt companies.

If we can get the numbers up to the 5k mark then we can totally fuck up the people who have liased with Acacia.

[Nysus]

Originally posted by Krome
OK so how many people can we get in on this?

If only 200 go in who are active webmasters it is going to hurt companies.

If we can get the numbers up to the 5k mark then we can totally fuck up the people who have liased with Acacia.

It shouldn't be a matter of trying hurt or destroy any company who settled with ACACIA as it was likely the best business decision for them at the time. It should merely be to pressure those companies for one thing or another.

Cheers,
Matt

[jimmyf]

Originally posted by CDSmith
One of the best ways to support this cause is to make a donation or a series of smaller donations to the IMPA.


http://www.impai.org/

I agree 100% but it sure doesn't hurt 2 also boycott any companies that are doing deals with Acacia.

[SykkBoy]

Originally posted by chodadog
Krome. Have you donated any money to the IMPA? CECash have. What CECash did was smart. *IF* the attempts to invalidate the patents are unsuccessful, and CE Cash had not signed the agreement, they'd have to pay for 6 years in the past. We're talking millions of dollars here.

CECash are contributing to the IMPA, which is more than can be said for a bunch of the people who keep putting shit on them. Think about it. If i'm a CECash affiliate, and they hadn't signed the agreement, and the IMPA fail, CECash are gonna be out several millions of dollars. Who's gonna pay for that? It's gonna hurt CECash and CECash's affiliates.

What CE has done is hedged their bets. Personally, a smart move for them, I just don't want them bragging about helping the industry though.

They should brag about saving money and protecting their company, but not about doing anything for the industry (even if they contributed to the IMPA).

Hell, if I was in CE's position, I'd have probably done the same thing, but I wouldn't act like I was the industry savior.......

[D-Money]

Tune in on Tuesday at 12:00 pm pacific / 3:00 pm eastern to hear part 2 of the Acacia debate.

We'll have Robert Berman as a guest, he'll answer questions and we'll get callers to ask more questions.

You can send me the questions you're most interested in hearing by emailing

darren @ marketingfirm dot com.

Last weeks show was great, we heard the IMPA's side, now we'll hear the other side.

http://www.d-moneyshow.com

As the show's host, I'll be unbiased and ask the questions webmasters send to me.

I was also sent papers last week, by the way.

[GFED]

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[Mr.Fiction]

Isn't Acacia claiming in their latest filing that boycotting them is against the law?

[TheJimmy]

Originally posted by BRISK


Acacia is worth $33 million right now. Go for it.

that's it?

damm then they are spankable if the right group of people get together with some decent lawyers....whew...this might get interesting

[GFED]

someone post some names or a url with a collected list. krome, how is your project coming?

[chodadog]

Originally posted by SykkBoy2
Hell, if I was in CE's position, I'd have probably done the same thing, but I wouldn't act like I was the industry savior.......

I don't think they're acting like they are. They've potentially saved themselves millions of dollars, while financially <i>helping</i> the IMPA.

[GFED]

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[Gemini]

Choda...

Without seeing the actual agreements with companies and them, it's be hard to say but can you imagine an attorney writing a deal up without a clause that states that the contractee is still able to contribute to a fund to attempt to defeat the contractor??

[Gemini]

Board hiccup! lol