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  • fris
    I have to go potty
    • Aug 2002
    • 55968

    #51
    Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
    hey slavdogg how can I get in touch with you? Not exactly traffic related.

    can you send me your icq or other means of contact my email is

    andre princetoncash.com

    thanks
    I thought you were banned pussyserver?
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    • BIGTYMER
      Junior Achiever
      • Nov 2004
      • 17066

      #52
      His numbers are correct.

      5927 / 65 = 1:91

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      • WebCompanyInc
        So Fucking Banned
        • Jan 2009
        • 257

        #53
        Originally posted by nation-x
        I make my money 10 different ways... affiliate income is only about 15%.


        A smart man never puts all his eggs in one basket! I agree

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        • WebCompanyInc
          So Fucking Banned
          • Jan 2009
          • 257

          #54
          Originally posted by fris
          I thought you were banned pussyserver?
          All I know is that there were people looking for you in Phoenix .. more than 1 and they were not looking to make a deal either

          You have more serious issues to worry about than whos banned on GFY ... making sure your insurance is current is one of them lol..
          Last edited by WebCompanyInc; 04-13-2010, 06:42 PM.

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          • Jay_StandAhead
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2002
            • 3103

            #55
            Originally posted by webgurl
            I have not switched over to V4 yet , there is a reason for that .
            and what is the reason?

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            • Agent 488
              Registered User
              • Feb 2006
              • 22511

              #56
              what is the reason. serious question. have seen no big issues yet man.

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              • Sausage
                Confirmed User
                • Oct 2002
                • 3012

                #57
                Nats 4 seems technically better in many areas, but they have really botched up the ease of use, so upgrading my 2 programs will be put off until I absolutely have to or they fix the horrible clunky interface.
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                • aniloscash
                  Confirmed User
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 1161

                  #58
                  I thought nats4 has an option to use the nats3 interface
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                  • Robbie
                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20960

                    #59
                    I agree that it's not as easy to use for the affiliate as version 3 was. But once you get the hang of it, it's no big deal.

                    I also wouldn't even consider either dropping or adding a sponsor based on which version of NATS they are using.

                    Sales are hard to come by these days, and my method is to promote whatever makes a sale. They could be using a stats interface drawn with crayons and cardboard for all I care as long as they make sales.

                    With all that said...we are one of the programs that chose not to upgrade to V4 because we don't like it as much as V3. We don't hate it...we just don't like it.
                    -Robbie
                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                    • Loch
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 7674

                      #60
                      Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                      All I know is that there were people looking for you in Phoenix .. more than 1 and they were not looking to make a deal either

                      You have more serious issues to worry about than whos banned on GFY ... making sure your insurance is current is one of them lol..
                      wtf? "lol"?

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                      • SEO Expert
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 428

                        #61
                        Originally posted by nation-x
                        Below are stats from a single NATS 4 program that I promote (as an example) for this period.



                        go play, little man

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                        • Dennis69
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 1685

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Robbie
                          Sales are hard to come by these days, and my method is to promote whatever makes a sale. They could be using a stats interface drawn with crayons and cardboard for all I care as long as they make sales.
                          Most people want everything done for them these days... and if it's not handed to them on a silver platter then they want no part of it!
                          HaHaHa

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                          • LoveSandra
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 10551

                            #63
                            nice stuff

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                            • fris
                              I have to go potty
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 55968

                              #64
                              Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                              All I know is that there were people looking for you in Phoenix .. more than 1 and they were not looking to make a deal either

                              You have more serious issues to worry about than whos banned on GFY ... making sure your insurance is current is one of them lol..
                              sounds like a threat to me pussyserver.
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                              • WebCompanyInc
                                So Fucking Banned
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 257

                                #65
                                Originally posted by fris
                                sounds like a threat to me pussyserver.
                                Fris I didnt say I was looking for you. In fact I dont know you and dont think I ever had an issue with you

                                I dont think?!?

                                But you have pissed some people off and hurt their biz and they were hoping to meet you face to face and they were very serious and I highly doubt you want issues with either of them. My advice to you is to stop fucking with people online and expect that everything is going to be buddy buddy when they meet you in person. All the shit talk in the world wont mean anything when a guy punches you in the mouth.

                                Like I said .. if I were you I would back off any and everybody you have been fucking with because I can certify that two of them plan on cleaning your clock at the first chance

                                just leave everyone alone and mind your own biz and you should be okies
                                Last edited by WebCompanyInc; 04-14-2010, 05:57 AM.

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                                • fris
                                  I have to go potty
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 55968

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                                  Fris I didnt say I was looking for you. In fact I dont you and dont think I ever had an issue with you

                                  I dont think?!?

                                  But you have pissed some people off and hurt their biz and they were hoping to meet you face to face and they were very serious and I highly doubt you want issues with either of them. My advice to you is to stop fucking with people online and expect that everything is going to be buddy buddy when they meet you in person. All the shit talk in the world wont mean anything when a guy punches you in the mouth.

                                  Like I said .. if I were you I would back off any and everybody you have been fucking with because I can certify that two of them plan on cleaning your clock at the first chance

                                  just leave everyone alone and mind your own biz and you should be okies
                                  This is comical, Only if this were true, if only helped people grow their business, not hurt it, I welcome any positive proof of you allegations, not like any of what you spew out of your mouth is true.

                                  Please post proof or else you might have another nick banned.
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                                  • USS Clownpenis
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Mar 2010
                                    • 132

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                                    Fris, you have pissed some people off and hurt their biz and they were hoping to meet you face to face and they were very serious and I highly doubt you want issues with either of them.
                                    THAT'S GANGSTA!



                                    Last edited by USS Clownpenis; 04-14-2010, 06:07 AM.

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                                    • WebCompanyInc
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Jan 2009
                                      • 257

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by fris
                                      This is comical, Only if this were true, if only helped people grow their business, not hurt it, I welcome any positive proof of you allegations, not like any of what you spew out of your mouth is true.

                                      Please post proof or else you might have another nick banned.
                                      take it however you want man

                                      just giving you some real and honest advice. I gain nothing by making this up

                                      You should be thanking me

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                                      • nation-x
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2004
                                        • 5370

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by SEO Expert


                                        go play, little man

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                                        • WebCompanyInc
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Jan 2009
                                          • 257

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by fris
                                          This is comical, Only if this were true, if only helped people grow their business, not hurt it, I welcome any positive proof of you allegations, not like any of what you spew out of your mouth is true.

                                          Please post proof or else you might have another nick banned.
                                          im done with it playa ... tried to help ya out by giving you a warning to leave other people alone and instead you attack me ... thats whats comical

                                          linux admins are mostly smart .. but not always

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                                          • JA$ON
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2007
                                            • 1329

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by FreeFastHost


                                            Wow your 65 joins in a pay period are very impressive. Slavdogg just did that many joins while I typed out this message.
                                            lol, so true. I love when people judge other people here and assume just because they can only manage to send 10 joins a day after being around for yrs that it is 100% Impossible for someone else to send a couple hundred a day. It always makes me laugh.

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                                            • Roald
                                              SecretFriends.com
                                              • May 2001
                                              • 27911

                                              #72
                                              I hate switching links. Too bad Naughty is still converting for us lol


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                                              • fris
                                                I have to go potty
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 55968

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                                                im done with it playa ... tried to help ya out by giving you a warning to leave other people alone and instead you attack me ... thats whats comical

                                                linux admins are mostly smart .. but not always
                                                who says im a linux admin?

                                                where do you get your info from.

                                                I hate linux with a passion.
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                                                • dirtybaker1331
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Nov 2008
                                                  • 461

                                                  #74
                                                  So you are going to stop promoting us because of a new stat tracking system? I assure you that we are going to be the strongest sponsor program out. We are making huge changes and customizing NATS4 to Naughty America's needs. Come next week we will have new and improved tools that we have been working on hard to make you guys more money and convert even better than we already do.

                                                  I remember using Photoshop 5.0...Every time they upgraded I had to alter how I worked just a little bit every upgrade. I do agree that when you are used to something, change is frustrating. In the long run, it is going to be well worth it. I would much rather be using Photoshop CS4 than 5.0.

                                                  If anybody needs help during this brief transition then hit me up. This is going to be a great year to promote us.
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                                                  • Sly
                                                    Let's do some business!
                                                    • Sep 2004
                                                    • 31380

                                                    #75
                                                    I think that from an affiliate standpoint there is definitely a small learning curve with NATS4. Some of the quirks are definitely annoying, but once you get the hang of it I like it much better.
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                                                    • djroof
                                                      JuicyDevils.gr Owner
                                                      • Jan 2004
                                                      • 25516

                                                      #76
                                                      time for removeeeeeeee

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                                                      • kowalsky
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2003
                                                        • 2494

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by chupachups
                                                        There are so many other reasons to move from NA.. gone from being the best to shit the last 2-3 years, not mentioning going after AFs
                                                        This is so true... and sad... I used to love their productions..
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                                                        • kristin
                                                          GOO!
                                                          • Sep 2002
                                                          • 9768

                                                          #78
                                                          I don't think any affiliate software would please everyone. There were complaints about NATS3 and that's why they made improvements in NATS4.

                                                          People don't like NATS for silly things, like too many steps to generate link codes -- when in actuality this can be customized by the program owners and setup many different ways.
                                                          Vacares rules.

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                                                          • 2012
                                                            So Fucking What
                                                            • Jul 2006
                                                            • 17189

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by nation-x
                                                            i know huh, get real
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                                                            • Bastone
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Nov 2005
                                                              • 587

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                              you have some kind of record with JOIN PAGE HITS "180% productivity" ?!?
                                                              You should learn how to read:

                                                              Originally posted by nation-x
                                                              Some people never realized they can send directly to join pages... but then again... since that link isn't in the affiliate admin I am sure they never tried it. ;)
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                                                              • Redmanthatcould
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Dec 2006
                                                                • 2771

                                                                #81
                                                                BTW, while you guys were measuring your dicks, you could have been making live chat sales with VS.

                                                                /plug

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                                                                • Socks
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • May 2002
                                                                  • 8475

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Will this require me to change linkcodes?

                                                                  What about the other programs listed that moved to NATS4.. Do they need linkcode changes?

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                                                                  • dirtybaker1331
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Nov 2008
                                                                    • 461

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by Socks
                                                                    Will this require me to change linkcodes?

                                                                    What about the other programs listed that moved to NATS4.. Do they need linkcode changes?
                                                                    No. It's backwards compatible. If you want more accurate tracking then we RECOMMEND you change them. It is NOT REQUIRED. All we are doing is improving our program.
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                                                                    • nation-x
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                                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                                      • 5370

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by Socks
                                                                      Will this require me to change linkcodes?

                                                                      What about the other programs listed that moved to NATS4.. Do they need linkcode changes?
                                                                      TMM creates a link redirect for all of your affiliate links so that the change is transparent. I checked all of the links myself after they did it and it works flawlessly... I am sure they do the same for every client.

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                                                                      • Far-L
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                                                                        • Feb 2002
                                                                        • 6065

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                        will be removing all links to naughtyamerica shortly


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                                                                        makebank
                                                                        the list will grow..
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                                                                        • Mike Dutch
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Aug 2003
                                                                          • 5607

                                                                          #86
                                                                          love that you can trac sales by GEO in nats4, makes filtering traffic even easier since some dont know how to convert some countries. Nats4 makes more $$ than nats3 to me.

                                                                          Agree that it would be cool if I could import standard settings i want to use/see into all nats4 programs i use, like a settingupload plugin, nats5?

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                                                                          • TheDA
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • May 2006
                                                                            • 4665

                                                                            #87
                                                                            I'm struggling to understand what is so bad about NATS4 that would make people drop them!!!
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                                                                            • bbm
                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                              • Oct 2005
                                                                              • 3710

                                                                              #88
                                                                              i think it is very good

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                                                                              • Shap
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2001
                                                                                • 8313

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by nation-x
                                                                                quoted for proof that you are an idiot. NATS 4 works fine... but it has too many great features for idiots to comprehend... so I could see why you might have a problem.
                                                                                Thanks I needed that. AHH GFY never fails to entertain.

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                                                                                • Shap
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                  • 8313

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  No historical import from Nats3 to 4 is a real bummer. Especially for the older programs.

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                                                                                  • Eric
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Dec 2000
                                                                                    • 8818

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                                                                                    All I know is that there were people looking for you in Phoenix .. more than 1 and they were not looking to make a deal either

                                                                                    You have more serious issues to worry about than whos banned on GFY ... making sure your insurance is current is one of them lol..
                                                                                    This is considered an accusation, I better see proof, or say your goodbyes now.
                                                                                    No One

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                                                                                    • Vjo
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Oct 2002
                                                                                      • 6082

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      I have no prob with v4 other than i like the old style long length full referral urls that v3 gives. If there are 300 ref urls one day, you should see all 300 like v3.

                                                                                      v4 makes breaking down by cmpn very nice and also the submit/approval data is only avail in v4.

                                                                                      So we need a best of both worlds.

                                                                                      v3 is a pleasure (and necessity for some people with the better, longer url referrals) to use.
                                                                                      Last edited by Vjo; 04-14-2010, 03:18 PM.

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                                                                                      • WebCompanyInc
                                                                                        So Fucking Banned
                                                                                        • Jan 2009
                                                                                        • 257

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Eric
                                                                                        This is considered an accusation, I better see proof, or say your goodbyes now.
                                                                                        Not an accusation ... there were people who were pissed about stuff he said about them here. I am not gonna snitch on anyone and say who ...

                                                                                        posting on GFY is not worth violating anyones trust over so if you feel the need to ban me for this guy so be it.

                                                                                        if nothing else Fris.. your running to Eric only proves everything they told me about you to be 1000% correct

                                                                                        and I hope you dont think getting me banned is some great feat ..... I realize now that I lose nothing by being banned here. I can meet and find all the workers etc I need at shows and other boards etc.

                                                                                        In a place where advice on treating people with respect can get me banned but a troll running around making light of a woman in the industry who was a victim of an unfortunate accident and clings to her life goes unpunished and without a peep

                                                                                        maybe im in the wrong place and dont belong here anyway

                                                                                        do what ya feel for ya bro "bro" lol
                                                                                        Last edited by WebCompanyInc; 04-14-2010, 03:38 PM.

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                                                                                        • fris
                                                                                          I have to go potty
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 55968

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                                                                                          Not an accusation ... there were people who were pissed about stuff he said about them here. I am not gonna snitch on anyone and say who ...

                                                                                          posting on GFY is not worth violating anyones trust over so if you feel the need to ban me for this guy so be it.

                                                                                          if nothing else Fris.. your running to Eric only proves everything they told me about you to be 1000% correct

                                                                                          and I hope you dont think getting me banned is some great feat ..... I realize now that I lose nothing by being banned here. I can meet and find all the workers etc I need at shows and other boards etc.

                                                                                          In a place where advice on treating people with respect can get me banned but a troll running around making light of a woman in the industry who was a victim of an unfortunate accident and clings to her life goes unpunished and without a peep

                                                                                          maybe im in the wrong place and dont belong here anyway

                                                                                          do what ya feel for ya bro "bro" lol
                                                                                          waiting for some sort of proof to your lible accusations.

                                                                                          plus this is your 2nd nick, multiple nicks warrants a banning anyway.
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                                                                                          • WebCompanyInc
                                                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                                                            • Jan 2009
                                                                                            • 257

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by fris
                                                                                            waiting for some sort of proof to your lible accusations.

                                                                                            plus this is your 2nd nick, multiple nicks warrants a banning anyway.
                                                                                            are you retarded?

                                                                                            What lible accusation? Can you even read? I told you that people were pissed at you at the Phoenix show and said you had hurt their biz by talking crap here .. and thats libel?

                                                                                            give me a break man ... it dosent matter , you got what you wanted. Let it go
                                                                                            Last edited by WebCompanyInc; 04-14-2010, 04:06 PM.

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                                                                                            • fris
                                                                                              I have to go potty
                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                              • 55968

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                                                                                              are you retarded?

                                                                                              What lible accusation? Can you even read? I told you that people were pissed at you at the Phoenix show and said you had hurt their biz by talking crap here .. and thats libel?

                                                                                              give me a break man ... it dosent matter , you got what you wanted. Let it go
                                                                                              after you post proof.
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                                                                                              • WebCompanyInc
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Jan 2009
                                                                                                • 257

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by fris
                                                                                                after you post proof.
                                                                                                proof of what?

                                                                                                Proof that some people dont like you?

                                                                                                lol you are a tard fella .. just let it go fella .. you ran to Eric and pretty much proved the guys point of why they didnt like you in the first place

                                                                                                now can you let it go

                                                                                                by the way ... if you are looking for me to drop names to avoid a ban

                                                                                                I will tell you now its not gonna happen ... we dont do that where im from

                                                                                                trust comes right after loyalty with me and I wouldnt violate it for 30 year bid
                                                                                                Last edited by WebCompanyInc; 04-14-2010, 05:25 PM.

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                                                                                                • slavdogg
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Jan 2001
                                                                                                  • 3570

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  couldnt figure out how to read stats
                                                                                                  how to sort by campaign / by site / by date
                                                                                                  couldnt figure out how tag links with campaigns

                                                                                                  thats a major issue above

                                                                                                  swankdollars just installed nats3 skin on their nats4 program and that looks and works great.
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                                                                                                  • slavdogg
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                                                    • 3570

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    keep in mind ive been playing around with nats4 since mofos installed it 2 years ago.

                                                                                                    not a nats4 newbie here...
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                                                                                                    • fris
                                                                                                      I have to go potty
                                                                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                                                                      • 55968

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by WebCompanyInc
                                                                                                      proof of what?

                                                                                                      Proof that some people dont like you?

                                                                                                      lol you are a tard fella .. just let it go fella .. you ran to Eric and pretty much proved the guys point of why they didnt like you in the first place

                                                                                                      now can you let it go

                                                                                                      by the way ... if you are looking for me to drop names to avoid a ban

                                                                                                      I will tell you now its not gonna happen ... we dont do that where im from

                                                                                                      trust comes right after loyalty with me and I wouldnt violate it for 30 year bid
                                                                                                      this coming from a guy who breaks the law but by lying.

                                                                                                      how does trust fit into that?

                                                                                                      I am curious to know whos business I have hurt. SInce you "claim" I have.
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