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bean-aid · 08-11-2011, 08:30 PM

Hi,

After 4 years being in the online biz I would like to write my own "How to make money online".

First:

1) Do not buy a tube script and then upload videos to it... that my friend is a sure disaster waiting to happen.
2) Think of what turns you on ;) I mean... is there a niche not yet explored?
3) Remember that adult traffic will not convert... that is unless you have something.
4) Back to 2... what niche haven't you explored? Me... I made over 100K on strip poker and why? It was because it was a niche not really explored in adult.

Now... here's the kicker... 100K per year is easy, not only in adult but also mainstream.

Why? Because, it is about having something someone else doesn't. That way, my friends, you can charge whatever the fuck you want...

So you read this far.. what are you going to do? I don't know... maybe pick up your camera and film your gf or wife screaming at you for being so fat and ugly

If you don't have a wife... think about something else... simple shit like ...

I'm a loser and I have a site for losers to give comfort... charge $1 for an internet hug... $2 for a pic of your gf with an internet hug included...

Do you see what I'm saying?

BTW... I just tripled my income yesterday by implementing ideas in my head that came to fruit tation ...

So the above means 10%... max 20%.... the real money lies in how you sell it. Every fucking little detail... and remember, do not be shy to charge to much

That is my contribution to the forum of lost cause

adultzone · 08-11-2011, 08:34 PM

I like that!!

AdultKing · 08-11-2011, 08:35 PM

The secret, however, is making money from things everyone has, that's the juicy bit of this equation

bean-aid · 08-11-2011, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by adultzone

I like that!!

Many problems that people encounter and then never capitalize on is the fact they can not sell.

If you sell something for $1 why can't you sell it for $10.... did somebody say something?

You know what i'm saying?

bean-aid · 08-11-2011, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

The secret, however, is making money from things everyone has, that's the juicy bit of this equation

Your right... oh my... what is so wrong with an internet hug followed by a dick tug?

Not that hard but would soooo sell... right?

barcodes · 08-11-2011, 09:24 PM

Thanks for the advice

AdultKing · 08-11-2011, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Your right... oh my... what is so wrong with an internet hug followed by a dick tug?

Not that hard but would soooo sell... right?

Find something everybody uses, pays for every month or quarter, has a pain of disconnect and then sell it.

papill0n · 08-11-2011, 10:03 PM

there is sense in what you are saying

bean-aid · 08-11-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Find something everybody uses, pays for every month or quarter, has a pain of disconnect and then sell it.

I took something that was only on paper... scrolled it into the internets... made it a site... turned it into 100K/yr...

ya see what i'm talking about?

Paul Markham · 08-12-2011, 12:33 AM

Thought I would pitch in.

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Originally Posted by beaner

After 4 years being in the online biz I would like to write my own "How to make money online".

I've made money in porn 34 years and going into 35 soon. 15 years in online porn.

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1) Do not buy a tube script and then upload videos to it... that my friend is a sure disaster waiting to happen.

Agreed, flooding online with more and more free isn't encouraging more and more to buy. Tubes pick up others losses.

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2) Think of what turns you on ;) I mean... is there a niche not yet explored?

Good luck finding it and finding customers for it. Micro niche is micro because not many like it. Unlikely those reading this will understand it as well.

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3) Remember that adult traffic will not convert... that is unless you have something.

Traffic initially is a cost on a business. Until you send or sell the traffic to someone with something to sell. It remains a cost.

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Now... here's the kicker... 100K per year is easy, not only in adult but also mainstream.

Agreed. If you know what you're doing in porn it's not a lot.

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Why? Because, it is about having something someone else doesn't. That way, my friends, you can charge whatever the fuck you want...

Few people realise this. They think doing what everyone else does, is the key.

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So you read this far.. what are you going to do? I don't know... maybe pick up your camera and film your gf or wife screaming at you for being so fat and ugly

If you don't have a wife... think about something else... simple shit like ...

I'm a loser and I have a site for losers to give comfort... charge $1 for an internet hug... $2 for a pic of your gf with an internet hug included...

Agreed.

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Do you see what I'm saying?

Yes.

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BTW... I just tripled my income yesterday by implementing ideas in my head that came to fruit tation ...

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So the above means 10%... max 20%.... the real money lies in how you sell it. Every fucking little detail... and remember, do not be shy to charge to much

you just spent most of the post telling us a lot is about what you sell, w you come back to how you sell it.

The problem with the "How you sell it" approach is that it's easily copied and this industry is 95% copiers. So coming up with a unique product that can't be copied easily or making money on it before it's saturated is the key. We've been shining shit for years and the buyers are no longer easily fooled.

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That is my contribution to the forum of lost cause

Good food for thought.

Most will tell you it's all down to how much free stuff you give away and how many 1,000s you send to a site. The product is further down the list.

PornStarToys · 08-12-2011, 12:44 AM

Your definition of easy is pretty loose.

Easy to me is doing nothing at all.

Hard = working.

Paul Markham · 08-12-2011, 02:25 AM

Here's some more food for thought. Really only for sponsors.

1. Think of or find something that 100s of other people can't do or do as well. Something that can't be copied and saturated. Yes still mainstream. Micro niche isn't the answer for many, it's easily flooded, easily copied and unless you really know the niche it's like a Chinese man selling to an Eskimo.

2. Budget it out and work out how to make it profitable.

3. Then build and launch.

4. Understand the buyer is not easily fooled, coned or tricked like he was. Respect him.

For the last 12 years, few in online porn have come up with anything that can't be duplicated and then saturated. Exclusive does sell, but not if it's the same exclusive everyone else has. And not if it's exclusive crap.

The history of people who went this route is there for all to see. We all know sites that offered something different, better and really exclusive.

If you're not good enough at producing the product, find someone who is and form a partnership. You do what you're best at while letting him do what he's best at. Don't try to duplicate what he does, unless you are really capable of doing it.

CurrentlySober · 08-12-2011, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by beaner

Why? Because, it is about having something someone else doesn't. That way, my friends, you can charge whatever the fuck you want...

The most truthful sentence written on GFY... I make my money in micro niches... People say 'Why? The market potential is SO LIMITED"

And it IS LIMITED... But get this - Here is the secret...

SO IS THE COMPETITION.

Like you say, give them something that is BANG ON THE BUTTON, and cant be found in that many other places... WINNER !

My stuff is NOT all over tubes - Cause its not 'Tube appriprate' But those who want it, SEEK IT OUT... And I can charge what I want...

I recently lowered prices by 25% as an experiment... It tanked. RASIED PRICES by 35 / 40 % Back to doing good again... Infact, I dont think I charge enough for my stuff

Paul Markham · 08-12-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

The most truthful sentence written on GFY... I make my money in micro niches... People say 'Why? The market potential is SO LIMITED"

And it IS LIMITED... But get this - Here is the secret...

SO IS THE COMPETITION.

If you can make this work for mainstream niches, then you're going to make billions.

Yes there's a problem with Tubes, but Tubes will start to hit Micro niches soon enough.

Still if you can offer something good, mainstream and that 100s of others can't offer. Then you're going to make bank.

A few can make money in Micro, I would think it's still a few today. Because so many tried it and couldn't work it.

bean-aid · 08-14-2011, 02:08 AM

This thread should be bumped

Internet Guy · 08-14-2011, 02:35 AM

The beaner is right people.

shimmy2 · 08-14-2011, 03:58 AM

there is NO money in micro niches thats why my boat is so small

Sabby · 08-14-2011, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

Hi,

After 4 years being in the online biz I would like to write my own "How to make money online".

First:

1) Do not buy a tube script and then upload videos to it... that my friend is a sure disaster waiting to happen.
2) Think of what turns you on ;) I mean... is there a niche not yet explored?
3) Remember that adult traffic will not convert... that is unless you have something.
4) Back to 2... what niche haven't you explored? Me... I made over 100K on strip poker and why? It was because it was a niche not really explored in adult.

Now... here's the kicker... 100K per year is easy, not only in adult but also mainstream.

Why? Because, it is about having something someone else doesn't. That way, my friends, you can charge whatever the fuck you want...

So you read this far.. what are you going to do? I don't know... maybe pick up your camera and film your gf or wife screaming at you for being so fat and ugly

If you don't have a wife... think about something else... simple shit like ...

I'm a loser and I have a site for losers to give comfort... charge $1 for an internet hug... $2 for a pic of your gf with an internet hug included...

Do you see what I'm saying?

BTW... I just tripled my income yesterday by implementing ideas in my head that came to fruit tation ...

So the above means 10%... max 20%.... the real money lies in how you sell it. Every fucking little detail... and remember, do not be shy to charge to much

That is my contribution to the forum of lost cause

People will buy anything... You are hilarious though. How can I tip u a buck?

Sabby

Sabby · 08-14-2011, 04:19 AM

Not everyone is this world is a brokeass cheapass stingy mofo...

You just need to have what someone else wants. And cant get for free.

Sabby

drmadcat · 08-14-2011, 04:19 AM

thanks everyone for the help

Sabby · 08-14-2011, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by drmadcat

thanks everyone for the help

BEST ANSWER!!! ding ding ding....

Sabby

Sabby · 08-14-2011, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby

BEST ANSWER!!! ding ding ding....

Sabby

now i'll leave for at least another 2 months.

Sabby

Harmon · 08-14-2011, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sabby

now i'll leave for at least another 2 months.

Sabby

I want to suck your tits

mavruda · 08-14-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

I want to suck your tits

Bump for the thread and nice end to the whole thing - now a cumshot - over the tits, so the camera can get it.

SpicyM · 08-16-2011, 04:19 AM

You forgot the hardest and most important part - traffic. If you dont have any, you wont sell anything.

Sabby · 08-16-2011, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SpicyM

You forgot the hardest and most important part - traffic. If you dont have any, you wont sell anything.

Not this dumbass thing again... if u dont have anything to sell or give away to sell or even pretend to... your not going to get any traffic.

Prove me wrong.. I dare you send me 500,000 hits without an image and i'll give u a cookie ;)

Sabby

SpicyM · 08-16-2011, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sabby

Not this dumbass thing again... if u dont have anything to sell or give away to sell or even pretend to... your not going to get any traffic.

Prove me wrong.. I dare you send me 500,000 hits without an image and i'll give u a cookie ;)

Sabby

You are blonde, so you probably didnt get it. You arent going to get the traffic out of nowhere and it doesnt matter how good your product is, if no one knows about it.

So having a lot of traffic is the priority #1 and selling unique product to the visitors is #2.

There was no mention of ways to get enough traffic from the thread starter.

pornmasta · 08-16-2011, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

Hi,
Me... I made over 100K on strip poker and why? It was because it was a niche not really explored in adult.

link please

bean-aid · 08-16-2011, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

link please

Several here know the link... That's not important.

Traffic on "niches" is easy, unless your completely incompetent on said niche you will get SE searches. Strip poker traffic was worth 3K per day at the top.

Also, lowering prices, as stated earlier will not do better. It is about raising prices, then raise again until you find the top.

What I said above is so true its ridiculous! ;)

Vjo · 08-17-2011, 01:32 AM

With rare niche I could see where higher price might do better as the surfer feels that this site "finally must have what I want" whereas cheap price means prob "junk" or "imposter" to the surfer. You get what you pay for.

Now for the vanilla niches like GF and big tits ect the opposite. They feel why pay 39.95 when I can pay 24.95 for the same thing.

Anyhow aprec your efforts. Good thread. Good posts as well Paul. You are 100% on the button in this thread.

Vjo · 08-17-2011, 01:46 AM

Also Paul, I am one of those who realizes it is product not traffic.

With the right product I have all the traffic and profit I need. Vice versa. I am losing my ass.

The old days the opposite.

Now lots of organic traffic is like The Joker in a game of 500. It trumps what I just said.

I am talking about those with limited traffic. Those people must sell only the best product to survive. Without product they are out of biz.

pornmasta · 08-17-2011, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaner

Several here know the link... That's not important.

...

Also, lowering prices, as stated earlier will not do better. It is about raising prices, then raise again until you find the top.

What I said above is so true its ridiculous! ;)

you mean that you have a pay website with strip poker ?
Give me the link, i can promote it, if i think it is interresting...

AnimeFevers · 08-17-2011, 07:22 AM

Thanks for the good advice but I already know this.

V_RocKs · 08-17-2011, 12:49 PM

You remind me of me in 2005.

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bean-aid So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: the land of woke sleuths Posts: 16,493	Making money discussion... Hi, After 4 years being in the online biz I would like to write my own "How to make money online". First: 1) Do not buy a tube script and then upload videos to it... that my friend is a sure disaster waiting to happen. 2) Think of what turns you on ;) I mean... is there a niche not yet explored? 3) Remember that adult traffic will not convert... that is unless you have something. 4) Back to 2... what niche haven't you explored? Me... I made over 100K on strip poker and why? It was because it was a niche not really explored in adult. Now... here's the kicker... 100K per year is easy, not only in adult but also mainstream. Why? Because, it is about having something someone else doesn't. That way, my friends, you can charge whatever the fuck you want... So you read this far.. what are you going to do? I don't know... maybe pick up your camera and film your gf or wife screaming at you for being so fat and ugly If you don't have a wife... think about something else... simple shit like ... I'm a loser and I have a site for losers to give comfort... charge $1 for an internet hug... $2 for a pic of your gf with an internet hug included... Do you see what I'm saying? BTW... I just tripled my income yesterday by implementing ideas in my head that came to fruit tation ... So the above means 10%... max 20%.... the real money lies in how you sell it. Every fucking little detail... and remember, do not be shy to charge to much That is my contribution to the forum of lost cause

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Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	With rare niche I could see where higher price might do better as the surfer feels that this site "finally must have what I want" whereas cheap price means prob "junk" or "imposter" to the surfer. You get what you pay for. Now for the vanilla niches like GF and big tits ect the opposite. They feel why pay 39.95 when I can pay 24.95 for the same thing. Anyhow aprec your efforts. Good thread. Good posts as well Paul. You are 100% on the button in this thread.

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Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Also Paul, I am one of those who realizes it is product not traffic. With the right product I have all the traffic and profit I need. Vice versa. I am losing my ass. The old days the opposite. Now lots of organic traffic is like The Joker in a game of 500. It trumps what I just said. I am talking about those with limited traffic. Those people must sell only the best product to survive. Without product they are out of biz. Last edited by Vjo; 08-17-2011 at 01:53 AM..

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