Have you ever made sales with traffic purchased from a broker?

[Jakez]

They wouldn't sell it if it made any sales am I rite.

Edit: fuck, was supposed to be a poll lol.

[TeenCat]

yes believe it or not, i have bought from choker three years ago for 50, send everything to juggcash promo for 80 and got three sales ... it was like xmas ...

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

yes believe it or not, i have bought from choker three years ago for 50, send everything to juggcash promo for 80 and got three sales ... it was like xmas ...

Nice nice, I love the naysayers, my original post was sarcasm BTW, it is entirely possible to convert purchased traffic. It is a human on a computer after all..

[famous]

Originally Posted by Jakez

It is a human on a computer after all..

well most the time

[cooldude7]

i just bought 1-2 k from traffic holder and never gave me sale.
i think 10-20k would give 1-2 sale.,

[loreen]

I did, but the outcome wasn't worth the trouble.
Of course, it was an amateur move, I'm guessing if you know your game the results are better

[jerryb]

I never bought traffic before but just for the shits I wanted to have a super record December. So, I bought 10,000 hits and had them directed to 2 different domains.

What happened????

Had the worst December in 4 years in porn. Thank heavens for my mainstream I did very well overall ... but the 10K bought traffic sucked BIG time.

Let's face it. IF the traffic was convertable ... why in hell would they sell it???? Send it to their own porn sites and buy that second Lambourgini would be what I would do with it.

[u-Bob]

To answer your question: yes.

Originally Posted by Jakez

They wouldn't sell it if it made any sales am I rite.

So what you are saying is that designers would simply design their own sites instead of selling their services if they were any good at design work... right?

Or hosting companies would simply host their own sites if they were any good at what they are doing... right?

Or copywriters would simply work on their own sites if they were any good at it, right?

Ecnomics 101: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage
'In economics, the law of comparative advantage refers to the ability of a party (an individual, a firm, or a country) to produce a particular good or service at a lower opportunity cost than another party.'

[MrCain]

Originally Posted by jerryb

So, I bought 10,000 hits and had them directed to 2 different domains.

so you spent $30 and had the worst December in 4 years?

[Zuzana Designs]

My answer is yes.

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by cooldude7

i just bought 1-2 k from traffic holder and never gave me sale.
i think 10-20k would give 1-2 sale.,

Then it's up to you to sell those 10-20k people what they want ;)

Originally Posted by u-Bob

To answer your question: yes.

So what you are saying is that designers would simply design their own sites instead of selling their services if they were any good at design work... right?

Or hosting companies would simply host their own sites if they were any good at what they are doing... right?

Or copywriters would simply work on their own sites if they were any good at it, right?

Ecnomics 101: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage
'In economics, the law of comparative advantage refers to the ability of a party (an individual, a firm, or a country) to produce a particular good or service at a lower opportunity cost than another party.'

Originally Posted by Jakez

my original post was sarcasm BTW, it is entirely possible to convert purchased traffic. It is a human on a computer after all..

[Wilsy]

We buy traffic from Trafficshop, FPC, and trafficholder and we convert with all of them

[Nicky]

It has happened.

[ravo]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

We buy traffic from Trafficshop, FPC, and trafficholder and we convert with all of them

Thanks Andrew! Looking forward to doing more biz with you.

[Klen]

Well trafficbuying is like buying raffle tickets,you might win or you might just waste money.

[CaptainHowdy]

Trial sales mostly...

[pristine]

You're much better off buying clicked traffic directly from the site owners or juicy ads.

[tranza]

Yes, and TVs and magazines should only show ads for stuff they win comissions.

Advertising doesn't work. You're 100% right.

[tranza]

BTW: why do you promote something you don't believe?

It's funny to see a Juicy Ads link on your sig.

[GTS Mark]

Originally Posted by tranza

BTW: why do you promote something you don't believe?

It's funny to see a Juicy Ads link on your sig.

[pornguy]

Does anyone sell traffic from TEXT links? or is it only skimmed shit.

[Ross]

I buy plenty of traffic from Brokers and make plenty of sales from it. It's all about wheeling and dealing... just ask some of the Brokers who have posted in here already... especially Mark from GTS, he runs a mile when he see's my ICQ's

[seeandsee]

I made cash with TS and TH traffic

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Nice nice, I love the naysayers, my original post was sarcasm BTW, it is entirely possible to convert purchased traffic. It is a human on a computer after all..

ok, missed that part

[LeRoy]

Every day we make sales from bought traffic.

[BIGTYMER]

Short Answer: YES

[C H R I S]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

We buy traffic from Trafficshop, FPC, and trafficholder and we convert with all of them

Thanks Andrew !

Traffic Brokers would not exist if people didnt make money on the traffic. Although brokered traffic can be challenging to convert, if you find something that works it will usually keep working for some time.

Anyone looking to do a test hit me up.

[Si]

yes and no. depends on the site, the traffic and what you are trying to sell.

[The Porn Nerd]

Buying traffic doesn't work for Paysites. If it DID then I'd spend my money, buy some damn traffic and stop working so amned hard.

Doesn't work, move on.

[Wilsy]

We make profit on initial sales with both Trafficshop and FPC without rebills or any other revenue.. Optimize your tours and you will do great with both of these companies... You cannot tell with buying just 1-2k you need to at least 100k and that will give you a nice idea.. Hit up either Chris or Ravo for some great deals..

[Wilsy]

Here's some screens taken a while back of our first 5 weeks of buying traffic from TrafficShop and FPC Traffic.
The stats show an in house account with biller fees already deducted and at %20.. thats a big amount off the total numbers.

All traffic is good traffic, you just have to optimize and optimize more until it converts.
An interesting fact.... If we sent this same traffic to a different tour, the Fuckbook style tours everyone uses.. we get half the amount of free joins = half the sales!
Yet plugrush used to be the opposite.. you must test and optimize

You also need to buy bigger amounts, sometimes we get 50k uniques and no sales, then the next 50k converts 20 sales.

Plus these guys will help you, they too want you to do well!

TrafficShop | $27,697 spent | $38,741 Earnt



FPC Traffic | $2948 spent | $5299.72 Earnt

[ravo]

Andrew: Thanks for sharing your numbers - I find that most buyers are reluctant to do that. And I'm real glad to work with you and your team in making the most from our traffic.

[C H R I S]

Andrew - We are very happy how well you guys are doing with the traffic. Ravo is correct that most people don't share numbers even though we have tons of people that are doing great with the traffic we cant divulge who they are.

Loking forward to working with you guys for the long haul!

Cheers!

[AHarper]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

TrafficShop | $27,697 spent | $38,741 Earnt



FPC Traffic | $2948 spent | $5299.72 Earnt

Thanks for sharing. Did you send the traffic to a special landing page or to a default tour?

[PussyMaster]

Feeder traffic is unwanted 100% shitty hits from people who don`t want to keep the garbage, useless on their pages.
But the garbage may turn into a gold mine as Andrew mentioned before.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Buying traffic doesn't work for Paysites. If it DID then I'd spend my money, buy some damn traffic and stop working so amned hard.

Doesn't work, move on.

you cant expect full profit to be from sales alone, you also cant buy traffic willy nilly. buy sustained traffic , offer them enticing content and at the very least increase your overall traffic. everything compounds , so if you are equal with another paysite on google and buy some traffic you will move up in rank thus increasing overall sales not associated with bought traffic id

tv commercials are essentially banners with no link on them and they work wonders

[Wilsy]

Originally Posted by PussyMaster

Feeder traffic is unwanted 100% shitty hits from people who don`t want to keep the garbage, useless on their pages.
But the garbage may turn into a gold mine as Andrew mentioned before.

It helps that Chris and Ravo have good filters in place and care about quality.
Filtering out the shit that brings ratios down... over 10 million hits could mean as much as 30-40% which is the difference between viable and non viable.
Over 50k hits, could mean sales or no sales.

Once that's sorted we can get to work on our sites knowing it really is down to us to convert it.
We have tried others before and it didn't work, which was disheartening because we were on a budget and didn't know so much about traffic, was it us or was it the traffic?!!
We didn't have the budget to work on a years member worth.. we HAD to make on initial sales.
That's why we piped up here, save you the bother

Interesting point... When we buy skimmed we don't just buy US traffic, we go for European too because a higher percentage of them go for the yearly option, no rebills but more on the day which helps make skimmed traffic pay.

AHarper: We applied the initial optimizations to one of our default tours, but we continue sending to a special tour that we change often.
remember your dealing with the masses, you have to think what is relevant right now in general, not just porn... build your sites or pages around that, whats relevant today

[stonehammer]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

It helps that Chris and Ravo have good filters in place and care about quality.
Filtering out the shit that brings ratios down... over 10 million hits could mean as much as 30-40% which is the difference between viable and non viable.
Over 50k hits, could mean sales or no sales.

Once that's sorted we can get to work on our sites knowing it really is down to us to convert it.
We have tried others before and it didn't work, which was disheartening because we were on a budget and didn't know so much about traffic, was it us or was it the traffic?!!
We didn't have the budget to work on a years member worth.. we HAD to make on initial sales.
That's why we piped up here, save you the bother

Interesting point... When we buy skimmed we don't just buy US traffic, we go for European too because a higher percentage of them go for the yearly option, no rebills but more on the day which helps make skimmed traffic pay.

AHarper: We applied the initial optimizations to one of our default tours, but we continue sending to a special tour that we change often.
remember your dealing with the masses, you have to think what is relevant right now in general, not just porn... build your sites or pages around that, whats relevant today

thanks for sharing the info

[garce]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

Here's some screens taken a while back of our first 5 weeks of buying traffic from TrafficShop and FPC Traffic.
The stats show an in house account with biller fees already deducted and at %20.. thats a big amount off the total numbers.

All traffic is good traffic, you just have to optimize and optimize more until it converts.
An interesting fact.... If we sent this same traffic to a different tour, the Fuckbook style tours everyone uses.. we get half the amount of free joins = half the sales!
Yet plugrush used to be the opposite.. you must test and optimize

You also need to buy bigger amounts, sometimes we get 50k uniques and no sales, then the next 50k converts 20 sales.

Plus these guys will help you, they too want you to do well!

TrafficShop | $27,697 spent | $38,741 Earnt



FPC Traffic | $2948 spent | $5299.72 Earnt

1:11,000? 1:10,000? Looks to me like if you don't know what you're doing you're going to lose big. Unless that's daily, weekly, or (maybe) monthly - those are horrendous stats.

What was the time frame? A month? A year?

[u-Bob]

a 44% profit margin... with little effort... I wouldn't call that horrendous...

[r0bman]

Originally Posted by garce

1:11,000? 1:10,000? Looks to me like if you don't know what you're doing you're going to lose big. Unless that's daily, weekly, or (maybe) monthly - those are horrendous stats.

What was the time frame? A month? A year?

Please explain your theory?

[ravo]

Originally Posted by garce

1:11,000? 1:10,000? Looks to me like if you don't know what you're doing you're going to lose big. Unless that's daily, weekly, or (maybe) monthly - those are horrendous stats.

What was the time frame? A month? A year?

Andrew said it was over 5 weeks. And, who cares about ratios when you've got a strong positive ROI.

I usually respect your posts garce, but re-read the stuff you quoted.... (or perhaps just the spent versus earned - that's tells the complete story)

[TeenCat]

my piss is 47 percents over my standarts ... i want to piss puss!!!

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by andrew.r

TrafficShop | $27,697 spent | $38,741 Earnt



FPC Traffic | $2948 spent | $5299.72 Earnt

So you are/were paying a little over $2/k? Hard to come by, but I'm not familiar with skimmed pricing. I pay about $3.50/k for non-skimmed traffic and my return averages 225% sending straight to default tours. No bs.

[woj]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

a 44% profit margin... with little effort... I wouldn't call that horrendous...

That's program owner buying the traffic, affiliate would get 50-70% of that income, so at best they would break even...

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by woj

That's program owner buying the traffic, affiliate would get 50-70% of that income, so at best they would break even...

In this specific case, doing the exact same amount of work the program owner is doing.... If they put a little more effort into it, I'm sure they can turn a nice profit.

[Choker]

Originally Posted by woj

That's program owner buying the traffic, affiliate would get 50-70% of that income, so at best they would break even...

It's almost impossible for a affiliate to buy traffic send to a sponsor and make a profit. Thus program owners have beome the largest buyers of traffic in the last year. It's also almost impossible for a porn paysite owner to buy traffic and make a profit. Cam sites, dating sites and tube sites, that's where the money is.

[Lamis]

nope, that traffic sucks, same as the canadian loser company who is almost broken..

hehehe

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by woj

That's program owner buying the traffic, affiliate would get 50-70% of that income, so at best they would break even...

Originally Posted by Choker

It's almost impossible for a affiliate to buy traffic send to a sponsor and make a profit. Thus program owners have beome the largest buyers of traffic in the last year. It's also almost impossible for a porn paysite owner to buy traffic and make a profit. Cam sites, dating sites and tube sites, that's where the money is.

..........

Originally Posted by Jakez

I pay about $3.50/k for non-skimmed traffic and my return averages 225% sending straight to default tours. No bs.

[Profits of Doom]

Originally Posted by Jakez

So you are/were paying a little over $2/k? Hard to come by, but I'm not familiar with skimmed pricing. I pay about $3.50/k for non-skimmed traffic and my return averages 225% sending straight to default tours. No bs.

From Juicy Ads traffic?