A message to Zombaio and Red Pass

[NewOldPlayer]

6 weeks behind. No fucking money.
I'm done with this shit of waiting daily for my own fucking money to come in. Every day the same fucking bullshit from their online chat. "Wait another day... wait 1 to 3 days... " they stretch you out to Thursday and then say, "one more day" and then they close Friday so you are fucked again till next week. The same thing over and over again. I can't take it anymore.

I'm going to file a legal complaint with their acquiring bank. I don't think the bank knows what is going on. There has to be some type of law that controls credit card processing. This isn't the wild west. They can't misappropriate funds made from Visa processing and not be accountable. This is insane. Zombaio is still processing and still bringing in money. It's time to get the bank involved. Those sick fucks at Zombaio are all useless mother fuckers hiding over seas and getting away with it because they think they are out of reach. The banks are not out of reach and take credit card processing theft very seriously. Zombaio seems to be operating without any restrictions or rules. All the theories here about them 'catching up' are all bullshit. These mother fuckers are stealing money and laughing at all of us. All they do is pay a few accounts here, and there, and piss on everybody else. They keep the chat lines open for the appearance that they are still in business to keep people from pulling out while they spend income revenue at will. I bet those fucks that work the chat lines are getting paid every week... WITH MY FUCKING SALES. Smug stealing mother fuckers. This little band of Swedish thieves don't give a fuck about business or people in the States. And why should they? We are morons overseas sending them money daily, and they just sit there dipping into our cash at random, not paying accounts, then paying some accounts at random, keeping everybody guessing and making up theories along the way, while they sit back and laugh their fucking heads off.

Time to cut the shit and go to the source, I'm sending a legal threat to their acquiring bank. I don't care if they shut my account down. I'm not getting paid anyways so my account is already considered shut down. If that happens I will refund all my members so at least I can stick Zombaio with a big debit on the way out.

[NewNick]

Yawn............

[NewOldPlayer]

Yawn............

That's right, keep your mouth open you fucking punk ass loser and I'll have somebody take a big shit in it.

Go fuck yourself. There are real people here that are losing their money. You find that funny??? Maybe because you don't make any money and don't understand how it feels.

[freeforlife07]

That's right, keep your mouth open you fucking punk ass loser and I'll have somebody take a big shit in it.

Go fuck yourself. There are real people here that are losing their money. You find that funny??? Maybe because you don't make any money and don't understand how it feels.

UH hey can you hold off on the lawsuit until i get my next two payouts - two to go but i have got paid consistently every two weeks --- i have changed my processor but still have two big payouts before the switch-- soooo lets just old off until i get finished--aaaarrround the middle of September . OKAY We dont want them going and hiring lawyers with our hard jerking money --- and really if they file BK we all fucked. Who is going to go out and get a lawyer and claim to be a debtor... Not my $1500 a month processing ass for sure -- and im sorry if you are processing more than that with them- i was processing $10,000 a month with them when they were my solo processor before their mix up a few years ago - Man those was the days :/ seems all every fucking credit card was good sheesh -- - Moving on

[Markul]

Time to cut the shit and go to the source, I'm sending a legal threat to their acquiring bank. I don't care if they shut my account down. I'm not getting paid anyways so my account is already considered shut down. If that happens I will refund all my members so at least I can stick Zombaio with a big debit on the way out.

I know we have never seen eye to eye VB, but let me give you a piece of advise here.

1. If you threaten to do something, talk about it in your head, with a lawyer, a friend and not on a public forum.
2. If you somehow manage to actually take some sort of legal action, maybe consider that all the shit you posted about the company could be dug out and used against you. In other words, unless you are 100% certain that they cannot connect the dots between you and the posts here - you have already lost (at best).
3. I am pretty sure that last part (the refund thing) is considered fraud. But maybe you and your lawyer can find some loophole to get away with it.

Having said all that, I hope you and everyone else gets their money. Had it been my processor acting like this, I'd have changed them A LONG time ago. Contacted each member that was re-billing with them, tell them that their current subscription will run out because of xyz and offering them a discounted membership if they sign-up with the new processor.

Cut my losses. Move on. If it was in the $xxx,xxx yearly range, sue their ass.

Good luck.

[andi00]

wow recived next payout Zombaio is back on track :D also got load on my mastercard ... i hope all will be good.. we will see

[ShowMe69]

wow recived next payout Zombaio is back on track :D also got load on my mastercard ... i hope all will be good.. we will see

You must be pretty lucky to get 3 payments since your first post on 7/29 and others are close to 2 months behind

Zombaio is far from being ok...lol

[Paully]

Money hit the Belize bank today for July. Now waiting for Redpass load. It did happen when they said it would from our chat. Looks like Michael O is back to help with the cust. service.

btw Michael today that was Max with the otp problem but either way I already told you we arent mad at you, it just seems they don't give you the tools to get shit done.

Hopefully by Monday they get the transfer straightened out. I don't want to wait 2 weeks for the money to hit the card again.

[H-Tom]

wow recived next payout Zombaio is back on track :D also got load on my mastercard ... i hope all will be good.. we will see

My last two late payouts has now "payout cleared" status.

[Zyber]

Money hit the Belize bank today for July. Now waiting for Redpass load. It did happen when they said it would from our chat. Looks like Michael O is back to help with the cust. service.

btw Michael today that was Max with the otp problem but either way I already told you we arent mad at you, it just seems they don't give you the tools to get shit done.

Hopefully by Monday they get the transfer straightened out. I don't want to wait 2 weeks for the money to hit the card again.

So Michael O works again for Zombaio?

[Paully]

So Michael O works again for Zombaio?

Affirmative Zyber1

[jdubs1982]

I just got "payment cleared" on my remaining couple of late payouts where if clear really means cleared and on its way (which in the past its been questionable) I'll be for the most part, caught up. (I have a settlement date next week that's still processing, but thats it)

As I said I don't really see the point of this thread, it seems like the same bullshit arguements going around in a circle, there are the couple people who hate Zombaio and seem to be the most active posters here, but I think most of us would prefer just getting our money. If they pay out, keep paying out on time, its a good thing for the industry for us cause we're getting our money. If they fail, nobody really wins anything. So I don't get all the people wanting them to go down.

They still don't have my trust, but I can say things have gotten better. People who are behind, you say you're a month or two behind, but how many payments are you guys behind? Is it 1 or 2 or are you missing dozens? I mean I know its still too long no matter how many you're missing but if you're 1 or 2 payments behind they could literally pay you Monday and you'd be caught up too. I was missing a couple dozen a few months ago.

If they pay my I think 3 late payments I have left, the couple you are behind.. wouldn't that make most people here, mostly caught up?

(now if you guys are missing 20 payments or something and its 2 months behind, I don't know what to tell you but if its one or to payouts.. that could come next week and you'd be caught up like it seems like an increasing number of people are)

[Robbie]

They mysteriously put a payment in my Redpass account last night so it was here on Saturday morning. They never did that before.

But of course when I tried to move it over to my Redpass card so I could actually use the money in any way at all...it didn't load.

Last time it didn't load took weeks for it finally be on my card so I could use it.

[beenthereb4]

I just got "payment cleared" on my remaining couple of late payouts where if clear really means cleared and on its way (which in the past its been questionable) I'll be for the most part, caught up. (I have a settlement date next week that's still processing, but thats it)

As I said I don't really see the point of this thread, it seems like the same bullshit arguements going around in a circle, there are the couple people who hate Zombaio and seem to be the most active posters here, but I think most of us would prefer just getting our money. If they pay out, keep paying out on time, its a good thing for the industry for us cause we're getting our money. If they fail, nobody really wins anything. So I don't get all the people wanting them to go down.

They still don't have my trust, but I can say things have gotten better. People who are behind, you say you're a month or two behind, but how many payments are you guys behind? Is it 1 or 2 or are you missing dozens? I mean I know its still too long no matter how many you're missing but if you're 1 or 2 payments behind they could literally pay you Monday and you'd be caught up too. I was missing a couple dozen a few months ago.

If they pay my I think 3 late payments I have left, the couple you are behind.. wouldn't that make most people here, mostly caught up?

(now if you guys are missing 20 payments or something and its 2 months behind, I don't know what to tell you but if its one or to payouts.. that could come next week and you'd be caught up like it seems like an increasing number of people are)

No They have stolen all my reserves . I have support tickets in over 6 weeks old and still nothing but lies . Why do you label people haters just because they have not been paid money that is owed to them .No I will not stop until they close their doors . Sorry Zombaio you stole from the wrong guy !!!

[adultchatpay]

Too many Zombaio bad stories.

[jdubs1982]

No They have stolen all my reserves . I have support tickets in over 6 weeks old and still nothing but lies . Why do you label people haters just because they have not been paid money that is owed to them .No I will not stop until they close their doors . Sorry Zombaio you stole from the wrong guy !!!

Yes you're going to trash them on message boards to death... that'll show them. They really "stole" from the wrong guy because you're going to call them bad names on an obscure online message board only used by people in the adult industry....

But either way I didn't ask how many support tickets you have open, I have dozens of support tickets open, from months ago, a ton of them not responded to. I don't really care about that, if they are sending out money and I get my money, I don't need to talk to David, Michael, Jesper any of them ever again. Which is why I asked how many payments are you missing? I'm simply trying to see if you guys are 1 or 2 payouts away from being current (even if yes those payouts are 6 weeks late) or if you're missing 20 or 30. Because its sorta a big difference. And since you brought up reserves, are you only missing your reserve money? Again not that you shouldn't be pissed, but just trying to talk numbers instead of the typical all caps, bold red, font overly emotional stuff or "I'll forever be on a crusade against them because they terminated my account" type stuff -- which while important to them, honestly add nothing of value to the discussion.

[RegUser]

clear status does not mean anything. I have that for past 3 weeks and yet no money. Still behind 2 payments

[NewOldPlayer]

No big red letters in this post.

There's nothing wrong with voicing your anger and opinions. I think Zombaio reads these posts and the emails sent to their investors and bank. Somebody must've read something because I just got paid and I wanna get laid.

Can't really be happy until Red Pass releases the funds, (there's always something) but at least we are going in the right direction now.

[buyadultblogposts]

Zombaio told me the funds are in motion..

[ShowMe69]

No big red letters in this post.

There's nothing wrong with voicing your anger and opinions. I think Zombaio reads these posts and the emails sent to their investors and bank. Somebody must've read something because I just got paid and I wanna get laid.

Can't really be happy until Red Pass releases the funds, (there's always something) but at least we are going in the right direction now.

Man get your rebill money from these clowns and change processor , you'll be happy you did in the long run

[Eschaton]

Zombaio switched to the "get paid every 2 weeks" model in June. Haven't received a single "2 week" payment, making all of my payouts over 2 months behind.

So much for the "we're going to catch up on payments" spiel.

[RegUser]

payment status cleared for past 15 days
money received in bank ZERO

[RegUser]

still no money.
things are really improving

[Zyber]

still no money.
things are really improving

You can ask Alexandra Lundberg or Veronica Cavebring on the Swedish phone number 0046 35 12 70 70 where your money is. They know.

[ShowMe69]

6 week payment delays followed by 2 week redpass delay..2 months to get a payment
If that isn't ponzi scheme trying to get out of the hole I don't know what is

[Zyber]

Who is who?

UnCutMe AB (www.uncutme.se) was incorporated on March 1, 2012 - With money that was embezzled from Zombaio merchants.



http://www.solidinfo.se/koncernstruk...ing-Holding-AB

You might think how are Alexandra Patricia Lundberg and Veronica Cavebring related to this case?


Samport.se and Zombaio was founded and is still controlled by a Swede named John Antonio Cavebring (formerly known as John Lundberg, before he married Veronica)

Alexandra Patricia Lundberg is the sister of John Cavebring.
She also lives together with Karl David Jönis Venngren. Yes, THAT David!

Alexandra is an co-owner of UnCutMe AB.
Karl David Jönis Venngren is also on the board of Cawen Financial Group AB.

Veronica Cavebring is the wife of John Cavebring.
Veronica also serves on the board of Cavebring Holding AB and UnCutMe AB.

Jesper Thörnblad is an old Samport employee and also John Cavebring's partner-in-crime (for setting up Zombaio Payment Services Ltd in California. This company is now defunct), but if you want to find your money you should ask the Cavebring/Lundberg family in Sweden.

No need to look anywhere else.

John Antonio Cavebring is the same for Zombaio/Samport.se as John Christopher Mallick was for ePassporte.

In 2014 John Cavebring and many former Samport/Cawen employees are now working for a new company with a pizza ordering system called Pizza24 Nordic AB - trying to compete with the existing justEat.com

John Cavebring runs Pizza24.se with his new partner Micael Ake Gunnar Palmer, also known as, Michael Palmer.

Now they are busy traveling around Europe and USA to set up a network of daughter companies for Pizza24 Nordic AB.

In a way Michael Palmers role in Pizza24 is similar to Jesper Thörnblads role in Zombaio.

History repeats itself.
Just with a new name, and in a new industry...

[Robbie]

Zyber, who cares about all of that?

If that info is so important, then use it to do something.

Other than that...I guess we are all just sort of at the mercy of whether or not they pay us.

If they don't pay us...and end up in jail for it...that will "feel" good. But that's about it.

All the name dropping and pseudo-investigating you are doing doesn't really add up to much. Unless you are doing it to put pressure on them to pay up.

Otherwise...I'm unsure of what you're doing. I couldn't even read the whole post because my eyes started swimming in the back of my head at all the European names that mean nothing to me.

I don't know...or care if they used my money to start a Pizza delivery service. lol
I am pretty damn sure that they used that money to start Redpass instead.

And none of it matters. All that matters is getting our money.

I'm down to rebills now. And not many of them. I'm hoping that everyone else has covered their asses too. And now we try to get our money owed.
Pizza delivery and faceless European names don't mean much to me.

[Zyber]

Zyber, who cares about all of that?

If that info is so important, then use it to do something.

Hi Robbie, thanks for sharing your views.

The info is important. That's why I share it with you all.

These crooks have gone to great lengths to hide their tracks - that's why it's important to share the info with others in this industry. If you have finally managed to solve the puzzle and seen through their layers of smoke screens, why keep the info for yourself?

Other than that...I guess we are all just sort of at the mercy of whether or not they pay us.

True. As long as we still have hope left we wait. And when we lose that hope, then we want to know the answers. Some might want to take action, some will just move on. It's a matter of personal temper.

All the name dropping and pseudo-investigating you are doing doesn't really add up to much. Unless you are doing it to put pressure on them to pay up.

Otherwise...I'm unsure of what you're doing.

You would be surprised about the level of investigation. Already visited key addresses in USA and in Northern Europe, and of course, also vacuum-cleaned the internet.

This is not only "name dropping". I'm sharing the facts with you - just to save yourself and others of having to invest so much time and energy in detective work.

And as Michael O is threatening me here on GFY - in his attempts to make me shut up - I might as well spill the beans.

I couldn't even read the whole post because my eyes started swimming in the back of my head at all the European names that mean nothing to me.

I don't know...or care if they used my money to start a Pizza delivery service. lol
I am pretty damn sure that they used that money to start Redpass instead.

And none of it matters. All that matters is getting our money.

It is okay if you are confused by all these European names. Just bookmark this post, and come back to it later - if the day should ever come where you have lost hope of ever seeing your money, and you want someone sent behind bars.

And you are totally right.
All that matters is getting our money. Personally I'm not going to see mine, but I hope others will be more lucky.

[Zyber]

I don't know...or care if they used my money to start a Pizza delivery service. lol
I am pretty damn sure that they used that money to start Redpass instead.

Just to clear this one up.
RedPass was a failed product of Cawen Financial Group AB. The same company that held Zombaio merchant's funds.

And Pizza24 Nordic AB is a sister-company of Cawen Financial Group AB - both connected by the parent holding company Cavebring Holding AB.

[RegUser]

I agree about not giving two bloody hoots to who owns what.
All I know is that I have not received my money and meanwhile there is nobody who wants to listen to me when I tell them that I am a little behind on their payment.
We are not their bankers. They need to catch up with pending payments.
Till they do, I wont let a single cent go their way.
This is also time to start to refund all transactions, I would let users get a free ride then theives.

[MainManRay]

Just block all access to your zombaio members -and - end of.

Then tell any who bother to email why . Theyll then chargeback and use your new proc. instead. The ones you loose you arent getting paid for anyways so who cares?

[RegUser]

Just block all access to your zombaio members -and - end of.

Then tell any who bother to email why . Theyll then chargeback and use your new proc. instead. The ones you loose you arent getting paid for anyways so who cares?

already done. And no sign of money. With more and more webmasters cutting their supply of $$$ its obvious that they will not be able to catch up with pending payments and most likely will close up

[wslover317]

If you are thinking of using Zombaio, STOP

When was the last time anyone has been paid by Zombaio, or can we all basically kiss any funds owed goodbye at this point?

I have been lurking these boards for a while and although I did see the warnings, decided to signup with Zombaio anyway.

The only reason I took the stab in the dark was because I could not afford to pay out the MC and Visa fees.

I was also rejected by another processor for other reasons.

But, after the money I have paid to models, studio rent and everything else, I am so far in the hole, I may have to close up shop on what should be a very profitable site. All because I have not seen one red cent from Zambaio since starting months ago.

Kept hoping there was a light at the end of the tunnel but that light never shows up...

With that said, anyone thinking of using them, please don't. As much as I would love an influx of webmasters so maybe some of that money will trickle down to me, I cant in good conscious tell you to use them and everything will be ok.

If you cant afford the MC or Visa fees, wait until you can.

If this post from a normal lurker helps anyone in anyway avoid losing their shirt, that's good enough for me.

Thanks for all of the great posts on this board, it really does (Or should) help a lot of people trying to scrape together a dime...

[lagcam]

When was the last time anyone has been paid by Zombaio, or can we all basically kiss any funds owed goodbye at this point?

I have been lurking these boards for a while and although I did see the warnings, decided to signup with Zombaio anyway.

The only reason I took the stab in the dark was because I could not afford to pay out the MC and Visa fees.

I was also rejected by another processor for other reasons.

But, after the money I have paid to models, studio rent and everything else, I am so far in the hole, I may have to close up shop on what should be a very profitable site. All because I have not seen one red cent from Zambaio since starting months ago.

Kept hoping there was a light at the end of the tunnel but that light never shows up...

With that said, anyone thinking of using them, please don't. As much as I would love an influx of webmasters so maybe some of that money will trickle down to me, I cant in good conscious tell you to use them and everything will be ok.

If you cant afford the MC or Visa fees, wait until you can.

If this post from a normal lurker helps anyone in anyway avoid losing their shirt, that's good enough for me.

Thanks for all of the great posts on this board, it really does (Or should) help a lot of people trying to scrape together a dime...

I am not really buying this post as being genuine on account of the warning to other webmasters. Somebody really in your situation would remain neutral and hopeful but as you didn't call anybody a thief or a scammer or use big red font, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

If you contact me via paul at my gfy user name dot com and let me know the site name, I will see if I can help you in some way to stay in business.

[beenthereb4]

Great Post and I am sure it is good advice for anyone starting out . Moving forward weigh your options carefully . Right now I think you need processing and fast or else for sure you will loose all you have worked for . Don't be afraid to do a shout out in the forums and get some offers for help . Best of luck to you . If there is anything I can do to help let me know .

When was the last time anyone has been paid by Zombaio, or can we all basically kiss any funds owed goodbye at this point?

I have been lurking these boards for a while and although I did see the warnings, decided to signup with Zombaio anyway.

The only reason I took the stab in the dark was because I could not afford to pay out the MC and Visa fees.

I was also rejected by another processor for other reasons.

But, after the money I have paid to models, studio rent and everything else, I am so far in the hole, I may have to close up shop on what should be a very profitable site. All because I have not seen one red cent from Zambaio since starting months ago.

Kept hoping there was a light at the end of the tunnel but that light never shows up...

With that said, anyone thinking of using them, please don't. As much as I would love an influx of webmasters so maybe some of that money will trickle down to me, I cant in good conscious tell you to use them and everything will be ok.

If you cant afford the MC or Visa fees, wait until you can.

If this post from a normal lurker helps anyone in anyway avoid losing their shirt, that's good enough for me.

Thanks for all of the great posts on this board, it really does (Or should) help a lot of people trying to scrape together a dime...

[ShowMe69]

I am not really buying this post as being genuine on account of the warning to other webmasters. Somebody really in your situation would remain neutral and hopeful but as you didn't call anybody a thief or a scammer or use big red font, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

If you contact me via paul at my gfy user name dot com and let me know the site name, I will see if I can help you in some way to stay in business.

I guess just another liar as opposed to someone who has been screwed by Zombaio?

[Paully]

The money from our ewallet hit our Redpass card on the 12th. This was from July's payout. According to Michael O the next transfer will hit tomorrow. They are still paying out. I don't know why some have and some haven't gotten paid. I am not especially nice with them although I do try and stay professional.

We are setup for monthly payouts but I don't think that makes a difference, at this point though they are current with us.

[wslover317]

I am not really buying this post as being genuine on account of the warning to other webmasters. Somebody really in your situation would remain neutral and hopeful but as you didn't call anybody a thief or a scammer or use big red font, I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

If you contact me via paul at my gfy user name dot com and let me know the site name, I will see if I can help you in some way to stay in business.

Email sent

[ShowMe69]

When was the last time anyone has been paid by Zombaio, or can we all basically kiss any funds owed goodbye at this point?

I have been lurking these boards for a while and although I did see the warnings, decided to signup with Zombaio anyway.

The only reason I took the stab in the dark was because I could not afford to pay out the MC and Visa fees.

I was also rejected by another processor for other reasons.

But, after the money I have paid to models, studio rent and everything else, I am so far in the hole, I may have to close up shop on what should be a very profitable site. All because I have not seen one red cent from Zambaio since starting months ago.

Kept hoping there was a light at the end of the tunnel but that light never shows up...

With that said, anyone thinking of using them, please don't. As much as I would love an influx of webmasters so maybe some of that money will trickle down to me, I cant in good conscious tell you to use them and everything will be ok.

If you cant afford the MC or Visa fees, wait until you can.

If this post from a normal lurker helps anyone in anyway avoid losing their shirt, that's good enough for me.

Thanks for all of the great posts on this board, it really does (Or should) help a lot of people trying to scrape together a dime...

If Lag can't help you then hit me up x3upload(at)Hotmail.com I am sure we can work something out

[andi00]

I recived all payments from zombaio in 2 yrs exept they are behind 1 paymant but i can wait , hope thay will overcome problems because i see they are working to do that

[ShowMe69]

I recived all payments from zombaio in 2 yrs exept they are behind 1 paymant but i can wait , hope thay will overcome problems because i see they are working to do that

Using money that isn't yours isn't a problem it is a criminal act, regardless if you eventually pay it back or are at least trying to...lol

[RegUser]

Using money that isn't yours isn't a problem it is a criminal act, regardless if you eventually pay it back or are at least trying to...lol

Well said
Besides, I am still behind 2 payments, due since july.

[RegUser]

no sign of money so far

[RegUser]

No money today as well so i have cancelled all transactions.
Looks lije everyone else on this board has already decided to bolt on these guys

[RFremont]

The money from our ewallet hit our Redpass card on the 12th. This was from July's payout. According to Michael O the next transfer will hit tomorrow. They are still paying out. I don't know why some have and some haven't gotten paid. I am not especially nice with them although I do try and stay professional.

We are setup for monthly payouts but I don't think that makes a difference, at this point though they are current with us.

If you have a relationship with Michael O, why don't you nudge him to pay these people their money? Ripping off people's hard earned money is reprehensible.

[RFremont]

Paully you were determined and outspoken for women's right on the War machine threads, standing up for those who cannot. But what about hard working people getting ripped off by programs, you mentioned you communicate with Michael O... why not apply some of your judgement in that situation.

There should be some solidarity, maybe it's just wishful thinking.

[AmeliaG]

No money today as well so i have cancelled all transactions.
Looks lije everyone else on this board has already decided to bolt on these guys

Why would anyone in business cancel their own money?

Worst case scenario: you don't get paid that money.

Kinda bad scenario: you get paid late.

Ideal scenario: you get paid on time.

Choosing to give yourself a worst case scenario, just because you didn't get an ideal one, is baffling to me.

FWIW, Zombaio paid me yesterday. That payout was later than I would have preferred, but they are now 100% current on the new monthly schedule.

[beenthereb4]

Hello ....support ...is My money on the way ?

[wslover317]

Still Nothing

Every time I get Jesper on Live Chat, same answer. Day or two.. Which becomes Friday. Not there Friday, becomes day or two again.

I have pretty much given up at this point. If money ever comes through, bonus...

These people have killed my business. I cant pay bills when MY money isnt sent to me.

[ShowMe69]

Every time I get Jesper on Live Chat, same answer. Day or two.. Which becomes Friday. Not there Friday, becomes day or two again.

I have pretty much given up at this point. If money ever comes through, bonus...

These people have killed my business. I cant pay bills when MY money isnt sent to me.

I know the feeling, but at least that is in the past for me , but I still lost alot of rebills after having used these clowns for 5 years..