13 Adult Domains Ordered Transferred to PornTube

[Ruseful]

Quote "I left my full time position with PornTube in October 2012 and moved to Prague for 2 reasons. 1, my work with the PornTube Content Publishing Program was complete, and we had Lizz as manager, and doing a GREAT job. 2, my own company, ReallyUsefulCash.com was going into orbit and I needed to concentrate on that business. In October 2012 I took a back seat from PornTube and in May 2013, my contract with them was up."


Strange as you stated that you also a partner of porntube or the company that owns it.
So are you a partner or just a regular employee ?


Originally Posted by Ruseful
Because I am not only an owner of a paysite network but also a partner of the company that owns www.PornTube.com, www.4Tube and www.fux.com and the more Content Partners that follow my advice, the better content I get for my tubes. Which in turn increases views, Click thrus and member sales. So I get paid both sides of the fence, so what you may think I lose by helping pay sites with their tube strategies, I gain in more users of my tubes.

I was a partner with specific duties, which I clearly stated in the above response, Partner of the Content Partnership Program and of increasing revenues with my Business Development position. The issues that were raised in these 2 separate threads were nothing that I was involved in, so no comments have been made by me about those issues.

And partnerships dissolve which this one did. I am no longer a partner of PornTube as of May 2013. And that was simply because of the sheer growth of my own company, nothing else.

[Fat Panda]

hey i just bought a bunch of domains with TRADEMARKS in them and I'm going to start a business.

GOOGLEpornandsexvideos.com
MICROSOFTporno.com
PIZZAHUTsex.com

and many more. I can't wait to BREAK THE LAW, INFRINGE on other peoples intellectual property and makes MILLIONS!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

[signupdamnit]

Hi Dmcontent and Signupdamit, for the record, I joined PornTube in Jan 2012 to build the Content Partnership program and to assist with business development. My role was to build a content partner program to rival the one we created at YouPorn, which was, and still is, the most profitable for web masters on all the tubes.

This involved building the most advanced platform for web masters to use, with features such as scheduling the clips to go live, bulk uploads etc etc. We did this extremely well and by August 2012, we had over 500 active web masters uploading their clips to us.

My other role was business development, which included making sure we were partnered with the best companies for Cams, Dating, Mobile, ad networks etc and getting higher payouts from these companies. All of which I achieved.

What I was not part of was the traffic program where we purchased traffic from web masters. We never did this at YouPorn and I have zero experience in this. Nor was I part of the management that looked after the legal direction of the company and in particular the protection of the trademark.

I left my full time position with PornTube in October 2012 and moved to Prague for 2 reasons. 1, my work with the PornTube Content Publishing Program was complete, and we had Lizz as manager, and doing a GREAT job. 2, my own company, ReallyUsefulCash.com was going into orbit and I needed to concentrate on that business. In October 2012 I took a back seat from PornTube and in May 2013, my contract with them was up.

I have no comment to make about these 13 domains that have been awarded to Porntube other than, if PornTube do not actively protect their ? then it becomes a secondary ?, which is no use whatsoever. We had exactly the same issue with our YouPorn ? which we were successfully granted after a battle with Google/YouTube. I also have no comment to make about the previous thread that Signupdamit has raised as this simply was not something I had anything to do with as this was simply not in my role with the company and hence why I stopped responding to that thread. Its hard and foolish to comment on something you are not part of.

So, I hope this clears up any misguided bad feelings towards me personally or my company ReallyUsefulCash.com.

Thanks for the explanation. It does seem a bit convenient though. You used the words "MY tubes" twice when referring to Porntube. Also coincidentally you claim "your contract was up" just last month. What amazing timing. What an amazing coincidence.

I also remember you were heavily defending them (porntube.com) and promoting their CPP and making it look as if you were just a normal paysite owner who was making a lot of bank with them and "everyone else can too!". I had bad vibes immediately and felt it was fishy. Now it's known that it was "your tube" and that you were a "partner" or something. It's hard to tell because there are mixed messages.

I remember when you jumped into one of my threads asking about how everyone is going out of business if the tubes were so great. You posted a lot of stats and made it seem as if the tubes were the greatest thing since sliced bread. But nowhere did you mention you were a partner, owner, or whatever with a tube CPP. That was here:

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18887879&postcount=256


Then "The PornTubeGuy" comes in and backs you up also on my thread over and over again:

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18890009&postcount=317

Here you are referring people to the CPP at porntube.com without saying anything about being an owner, partner, or employee. This is in your reply to me where I state that I find it amazing you claim to be making about "$1 per 1,000 tube impressions"

http://content.porntube.com
Everything you need is in the PornTube Content Publishing Platform Guide.

JT = Founder/Chairman of Ruseful Network. Its not rocket science and its not a secret how to do it either!!

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18888304&postcount=268

Right before that I also said:

It's much easier for me to believe that things aren't as they appear for whatever reason. That there is another explanation such as something is being miscalculated (such as the source of the type-ins) It's almost as bad as seeing a pink elephant flying outside your office window.

To which you replied as above.


Here I specifically ask "The PornTubeGuy" whether or not you (Ruseful) are an employee of his:

So Ruseful is your employee?

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18890357&postcount=336

His reply:

No, I own Ruseful and the pay sites. I have a CEO that runs that company. We employ 10 people and growing. We have another editor starting in May for example.

I am now part of PornTube looking to build another YouPorn

Pre starting at YouPorn in 2006, I was a dog breeder.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18890425&postcount=338

Hmmm. You know I don't know what to think of this one actually. Maybe I'm having a stroke or something. LOL Things just aren't coming together right here. Maybe someone else can make sense of this...

[DWB]

people that dont respect the law, trademarks, patents etc are despicable

*yawn*

As I've said before, such comments coming from someone who has been running a large Manwin banner in his sig for months on end is quite ironic.

[tonyparra]

hey i just bought a bunch of domains with TRADEMARKS in them and I'm going to start a business.

GOOGLEpornandsexvideos.com
MICROSOFTporno.com
PIZZAHUTsex.com

and many more. I can't wait to BREAK THE LAW, INFRINGE on other peoples intellectual property and makes MILLIONS!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

your an apparent idiot

google
microsoft
pizzahut

are not generic terms.

this is like pizzahut demanding all restaurants with the word "pizza" in their name to close shop. Dumbass.
porntube porn and tube are generic terms.

[SomeCreep]

This isnt about trademark. What you have here is a group of people taking advantage of the system, where it seems the trademark office is still a little naive about internet business. I guarantee the people who approved this trademark and others like it have never been too or heard of a porn tube before this application came across their desk.

Bingo. Yahtzee!

A mistake was made on the behalf of the USPTO in granting the trademark "porn tube" and now in an egregious example of reverse domain hijacking, this company (Tenza Trading Ltd., which is located in Nicosia, Cyprus btw) has begun to steal developed "porntube.com" domains worth millions of dollars. They have started with the largest and most valuable website using "porn tube," which is Largeporntube.com. Alexa rank: 434.

IMO, these guys are straight up criminals. The shocker for me, is that WIPO has gotten so bad in their decision making that they actually ruled in favor of porntube.com.

[Sexier]

Bingo. Yahtzee!

A mistake was made on the behalf of the USPTO in granting the trademark "porn tube" and now in an egregious example of reverse domain hijacking, this company (Tenza Trading Ltd., which is located in Nicosia, Cyprus btw) has begun to steal developed "porntube.com" domains worth millions of dollars. They have started with the largest and most valuable website using "porn tube," which is Largeporntube.com. Alexa rank: 434.

IMO, these guys are straight up criminals. The shocker for me, is that WIPO has gotten so bad in their decision making that they actually ruled in favor of porntube.com.

Nicosia is only an address like many have to save on taxes, their main headquarters are located in Alicante Spain.

[Lichen]

hey i just bought a bunch of domains with TRADEMARKS in them and I'm going to start a business.

GOOGLEpornandsexvideos.com
MICROSOFTporno.com
PIZZAHUTsex.com

and many more. I can't wait to BREAK THE LAW, INFRINGE on other peoples intellectual property and makes MILLIONS!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

You sound like an idiot.

[Google Expert]

Bingo. Yahtzee!

A mistake was made on the behalf of the USPTO in granting the trademark "porn tube" and now in an egregious example of reverse domain hijacking, this company (Tenza Trading Ltd., which is located in Nicosia, Cyprus btw) has begun to steal developed "porntube.com" domains worth millions of dollars. They have started with the largest and most valuable website using "porn tube," which is Largeporntube.com. Alexa rank: 434.

IMO, these guys are straight up criminals. The shocker for me, is that WIPO has gotten so bad in their decision making that they actually ruled in favor of porntube.com.

How long until this practice become widespread?

We all know what kind what kind of douchebags porn peddlers are.

[Marcus Aurelius]

hey i just bought a bunch of domains with TRADEMARKS in them and I'm going to start a business.

GOOGLEpornandsexvideos.com
MICROSOFTporno.com
PIZZAHUTsex.com

and many more. I can't wait to BREAK THE LAW, INFRINGE on other peoples intellectual property and makes MILLIONS!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Never post here again.

[Ruseful]

Thanks for the explanation. It does seem a bit convenient though. You used the words "MY tubes" twice when referring to Porntube. Also coincidentally you claim "your contract was up" just last month. What amazing timing. What an amazing coincidence.

I also remember you were heavily defending them (porntube.com) and promoting their CPP and making it look as if you were just a normal paysite owner who was making a lot of bank with them and "everyone else can too!". I had bad vibes immediately and felt it was fishy. Now it's known that it was "your tube" and that you were a "partner" or something. It's hard to tell because there are mixed messages.

I remember when you jumped into one of my threads asking about how everyone is going out of business if the tubes were so great. You posted a lot of stats and made it seem as if the tubes were the greatest thing since sliced bread. But nowhere did you mention you were a partner, owner, or whatever with a tube CPP. That was here:

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18887879&postcount=256


Then "The PornTubeGuy" comes in and backs you up also on my thread over and over again:

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18890009&postcount=317

Here you are referring people to the CPP at porntube.com without saying anything about being an owner, partner, or employee. This is in your reply to me where I state that I find it amazing you claim to be making about "$1 per 1,000 tube impressions"



http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18888304&postcount=268

Right before that I also said:



To which you replied as above.


Here I specifically ask "The PornTubeGuy" whether or not you (Ruseful) are an employee of his:



http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18890357&postcount=336

His reply:



http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18890425&postcount=338

Hmmm. You know I don't know what to think of this one actually. Maybe I'm having a stroke or something. LOL Things just aren't coming together right here. Maybe someone else can make sense of this...

wow, do you not have a business to run? You seem to have a lot of time trawling through a lot of threads looking for things to add to your conspiracy theory about me/Really Useful Limited/PornTube. Did the tubes put you out of business or something and you are taking your vengeance out on me?

Of course I was using the username The PornTube Guy. This, if I remember, was changed from The YouPorn guy when I started at PornTube. I stopped using The PornTube guy late April 2012, just 4 months after I started using it. I also had a username for my own company which was Ruseful and is what I used from April 2012 onwards.

With regards to The PornTube Guy, yes, of course I promoted the new CPP that I had built for the site. It would have been weird to promote the PornTube product with my Ruseful account and vice versa. But, have you taken the time to read my PornTube Guide on How to make money with the tubes? In there, and on the forums, I specifically say that you should upload to all the major tube sites, not just PornTube. So, I really dont get what you are trying to say when you state that I am telling everyone I am making all my money from PornTube alone. Have a look at the YouPorn channels http://www.youporn.com/channels/most_popular/alltime/ My sites are ranked #1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 18 highest rated of all time by the users. Dosnt this tell you something? Or I guess you think that Manwin do me bro favours because we sold them Youporn and put all my sites there.

As for it being a coincidence that I left PornTube in May this year, why is that a coincidence? That was the date that was agreed that I would leave permanently from my position after I went to a couple of days a month from October 2012. This was, as I have explained before, because my work to set up the CPP was done and it was running very smoothly with Lizz managing this, and the fact that my paysite network was going into orbit and I could not manage my own company and my role within Porntube.

I will reiterate, my roles were business development and building the CPP. And yes, why wouldn't I refer to the tubes as "my tubes" when I am writing on the forum?

It seems that no matter what I write now or what I have written in the past, you will be trawling all of my posts, putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with what ever you want for your conspiracy against me and my company Really Useful. So, once more for the record, I do not own PornTube, never have. I am not involved in the legal direction of the company, not now, not ever. I built the CCP to replicate what we built at YouPorn and I did business development which was specifically to get better partners on board and get bigger payouts. Thats it in a nutshell.

[Bravo]

hey Ruseful could you clear confirm in this thread that you not affiliated with porntube.com team/owners since May?

[arock10]

hey i just bought a bunch of domains with TRADEMARKS in them and I'm going to start a business.

GOOGLEpornandsexvideos.com
MICROSOFTporno.com
PIZZAHUTsex.com

and many more. I can't wait to BREAK THE LAW, INFRINGE on other peoples intellectual property and makes MILLIONS!

ROFL ROFL ROFL

You are painfully stupid

[signupdamnit]

wow, do you not have a business to run? You seem to have a lot of time trawling through a lot of threads looking for things to add to your conspiracy theory about me/Really Useful Limited/PornTube. Did the tubes put you out of business or something and you are taking your vengeance out on me?

Of course I was using the username The PornTube Guy. This, if I remember, was changed from The YouPorn guy when I started at PornTube. I stopped using The PornTube guy late April 2012, just 4 months after I started using it. I also had a username for my own company which was Ruseful and is what I used from April 2012 onwards.

With regards to The PornTube Guy, yes, of course I promoted the new CPP that I had built for the site. It would have been weird to promote the PornTube product with my Ruseful account and vice versa. But, have you taken the time to read my PornTube Guide on How to make money with the tubes? In there, and on the forums, I specifically say that you should upload to all the major tube sites, not just PornTube. So, I really dont get what you are trying to say when you state that I am telling everyone I am making all my money from PornTube alone. Have a look at the YouPorn channels http://www.youporn.com/channels/most_popular/alltime/ My sites are ranked #1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 18 highest rated of all time by the users. Dosnt this tell you something? Or I guess you think that Manwin do me bro favours because we sold them Youporn and put all my sites there.

As for it being a coincidence that I left PornTube in May this year, why is that a coincidence? That was the date that was agreed that I would leave permanently from my position after I went to a couple of days a month from October 2012. This was, as I have explained before, because my work to set up the CPP was done and it was running very smoothly with Lizz managing this, and the fact that my paysite network was going into orbit and I could not manage my own company and my role within Porntube.

I will reiterate, my roles were business development and building the CPP. And yes, why wouldn't I refer to the tubes as "my tubes" when I am writing on the forum?

It seems that no matter what I write now or what I have written in the past, you will be trawling all of my posts, putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with what ever you want for your conspiracy against me and my company Really Useful. So, once more for the record, I do not own PornTube, never have. I am not involved in the legal direction of the company, not now, not ever. I built the CCP to replicate what we built at YouPorn and I did business development which was specifically to get better partners on board and get bigger payouts. Thats it in a nutshell.

Ruseful/ThatPornTubeGuy/JT,

I had no idea that you were ThePornTubeGuy until last night after reading a post from Mr. Peabody and thinking about it. Then you confirmed it just now. I think that might have been part of the really bad vibes I was getting from you (plural). I knew something was strange but I didn't catch that.

The problem is it was a bit dishonest and confusing. I see where you came clean a little bit earlier on but it wasn't obvious to me and sometimes you refer to yourself in the third person as you did here as if The PornTubeGuy were a separate person from Ruseful.

Hi Paul, Ruseful are just telling you how they are doing it right. Of course they are a big supporter of the tubes, they are owned by me and I was one of the main guys that launched YouPorn and subsequently sold to Manwin last year. I am now part of the exceptional team running PornTube, 4Tube and Fux.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18889996&postcount=316

Again here you reply to me as "ThePornTubeGuy" and refer to yourself in the third person as if you are two separate people:

You'll find that Ruseful is saying that he gets a 1% average CTR from his promotional banners/texts on the tubes he uploads too. The additional 2% is derived from direct type ins from the same exposure on the tubes. This is the 3% traffic he gets, NOT 3% CTR on his promotional banners.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18890009&postcount=317

Here once again you refer to yourself in the third person as if you are two separate people:

Thats when you need work with sponsors that will allow you to brand their content with a separate URL on their clips. i.e. pussy5 push x-art videos like that, pussy21 push DaneJones content. The user see's an x-art clip but its branded pussy5 . com, the users types in pussy5 . com and end up at x-art. They upload to the 200+ tubes that are too small for the likes of x-art and Ruseful to bother with. They do great sales numbers. BUT please do not do this with a domain the sponsor does not own, or they will DMCA your ass!!! The sponsor MUST own the domain, so reach out to them, Ruseful included: support at ruseful . com or hit me up at jt at porntube . com and i'll point you in the right direction

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18891407&postcount=358

You were using a sockpuppet and referring your self in the third person was dishonest and obviously you meant to do it and knew what you were doing. I know I'm not the only person who was confused by it. It brings up the question of who else you might be too. For instance maybe you're Coolness69 too? How do we know that was your only sockpuppet here?

I'll post more later. But that is the main problem I have with you now besides your association with piracy. You came to one of my threads, self promoted, used sockpuppets and played games with me and others. It was disrespectful. You played myself and others for fools.

And yes I am a little pissed off at the people behind tubes such as yours. You've cost me a lot of money over the years and I don't believe what people like you did was ethical. What do you expect, a hug? I'm not after you personally though and I'm glad you came clean about the sockpuppet.

[Magnetron]

With all this detective work being done, I think the obvious is being overlooked.

I have no comment to make about these 13 domains that have been awarded to Porntube other than, if PornTube do not actively protect their ? then it becomes a secondary ?, which is no use whatsoever. We had exactly the same issue with our YouPorn ? which we were successfully granted after a battle with Google/YouTube.

Neither condemning or condoning makes one safe from having their words come back to haunt them. It is understandable that to publicly condone could cost Ruseful affiliates and thus sales down the road. Public condemnation would not.

You would probably get to the truth much sooner if you just convinced everyone to put a temporary freeze on their Reallyusefulcash promotions until Ruseful climbs down to either side from where he is perched on the fence.