I did your homework for you fris.

[TheSquealer]

Also, its important to note that the bulk of people building themes, plugins etc for Wordpress aren't aware of what rights they do and don't have and make very wrong assumptions. Everyone is going to get pissy when they find their footer links are stripped out of their free themes, but it doesn't mean the person using the theme doesn't have the legal right to do it.

So just asking a bunch of people how they feel about it, doesn't make them right either.

[CyberHustler]

[jscott]

sounds super fucked up, but i'd really like to hear what fris has to say about this

[Tofu]

i'd really like to hear what fris has to say about this

co-sign.

[u-Bob]

I think it's a matter of how he structured the deal.

If he has a developer license for theme X or plugin Y, he can then legally set up theme X or plugin Y for his clients and charge them whatever he wants for that. (Assuming the license for theme X and plugin Y is like most of the developer licenses I've seen so far).

So he could offer for example 100 wordpress installs for $50 and give his clients a wide variety of theme and plugin choices.

However, I have no idea how he structured his offer that sparked this controversy so I won't comment on that specific situation.

[signupdamnit]

Looks like it's been going on for a while.

http://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17867564&postcount=16

[gimme-website]

Well i had no idea either... And nobody would give me an answer.
SO i asked the companies involved to take a look at the thread/deal themselves.
It's a fair request...

THose are not my words that have been posted. They are the words from the companies whose products are in this package. I have not altered anything. I have not put words in thier mouths... i simply linked them to the thread and said I was concidering purchasing this, and did the OP have permisssion/rights to sell. Those are the answers I recieved.

It could be Fris is spot on.. and every company ive contacted is giving me mis-information. I am simply repeating what they are saying to me...

As you can imagine my ICQ has been red hot since i posted this.

[Jakez]

If someone is able to sell something that is given away for free I don't see what the problem is lol. But I'm not really sure what the hell this is all about anyhow.

[Brujah]

SO i asked the companies involved to take a look at the thread/deal themselves.

It's possible some of those companies don't understand either. Here's a good explanation, with some FAQs on the subject from one of the main WP developers.
http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/201...-of-wordpress/

[HomeFry]

Hey Fris

You seemed a bit unsure/vague/dodged the question about the licencing issue with your wordpress developers pack. So i've done you and the people who have bought this from you a favour and done your homework for you. Here's a selection of the replys ive recieved so far.







This may not be our industry you are hurting fris. But i thought GFY was better than this, I thought our community was better than this.

Cunt Police in Full Force!

[Fat Panda]

silence from fris is VERY telling

[fris]

Which was my point and one made by others. These are all released as GPL. So yes, technically fris could give them all away and sell them. Yes, they frown upon it. Yes, they don't want it to be done. But, there's nothing stopping fris from doing what he is doing. Especially since they have more expensive "developers" licenses they take this into account.

fris paid for the right to do this. He might be a bit more liberal with who he calls a client (ie. anyone who give him $50), but that doesn't mean he can't do what he did.

This has been hashed out back and forth for years now in the WP circles. The developer's license with the added cost was one of the ORIGINAL RESPONSES to this sort of thing going down.

isnt that how GPL works?

Theirs nothing saying I cant do that, if you dont wanna release a plugin or theme under GPL, then dont.

But I do have to thank Anna, being the rat she is, emailing every provider on the list of options I had.

Ive always been a supporter of her work, dont know why someone would go out of the way to contact every person, when if she looked up each solution and each product is GPL, which states, I can do whatever I want with the final product. (even reselling).

If you dont wanna be a wordpress product under the GPL, then dont do it.

How would anna like If i emaiiled all her clients from her portfolio? Im sure she wouldnt like it.

But if she wants to go out of her way to be a shit distruber, then whats fine, its up to her.

Maybe beflre you do, you might wanna read up on the GPL and what it allows.



I can be reached via email if anyone has any questions as im not at home and wont be visiting this until monday, so replies are all welcome.

even anna who I have no illwill towards even though she did contact everyone out of spite.

I was going to post a url to the GPL, but im sure you know it since you already read it before contacting them right?

[Failed]

You call it snitching.. I call it protecting people like myself who run small busineses.
You don't see the connection. But this is no different to content theft that we all cry about on a daily basis. It's just not YOUR industry.

Ill fight for anyone whose trying to earn an honest living. And I will equaly challenge those that choose to earn their money off the backs of other peoples hard work.

You work for FuckYouCash, and biggy, right? The guy that closed down the MelissaMidwest affiliate program so affiliates don't have access to their stats or how much money their owed. Just checking, since you're interested in honesty and theft.

[HomeFry]

Hey Fris

You seemed a bit unsure/vague/dodged the question about the licencing issue with your wordpress developers pack. So i've done you and the people who have bought this from you a favour and done your homework for you. Here's a selection of the replys ive recieved so far.







This may not be our industry you are hurting fris. But i thought GFY was better than this, I thought our community was better than this.

Post proof that you purchased your copy of Photoshop or STFU, slag.

[Freaky_Akula]

If Wordpress themes fall under GPL, does that mean Fris is off the hook or on a different hook?