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  • Jakez
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    • Jan 2004
    • 5656

    #31
    Originally posted by gideongallery
    so you saying that the record industry should have a right to destroy the only chance that those independents have because they have a strangle hold on the old media.

    If anything that a reason to leave sites like the pirate bay and mega upload alone.
    Why can't they just host their own files? The cost of bandwidth is next to nothing and as they become more popular and burn more bandwidth their pockets will also be fat(ter) enough to pay for it. What is the point of using these file sharers like megaupload to host your free music when they could disappear overnight and all your links are then dead?
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    • gideongallery
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      • Aug 2003
      • 7082

      #32
      Originally posted by Jakez
      Why can't they just host their own files? The cost of bandwidth is next to nothing and as they become more popular and burn more bandwidth their pockets will also be fat(ter) enough to pay for it. What is the point of using these file sharers like megaupload to host your free music when they could disappear overnight and all your links are then dead?
      because mega upload pays you for putting your content on their site

      your arguing that an artist should lose that revenue stream and replace it with a cost.

      Would you support a 200% tax on your content to give free money to independent artist


      mega upload was profitable and the only reason they disappeared is because the government violated the procedures they were supposed to follow.

      “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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      • Due
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        • Mar 2001
        • 3620

        #33
        Originally posted by gideongallery
        so you saying that the record industry should have a right to destroy the only chance that those independents have because they have a strangle hold on the old media.

        If anything that a reason to leave sites like the pirate bay and mega upload alone.
        Per your logic then because they don't publish the music for everyone then it's okay to steal from them ?

        I'm sure everyone, including their current visitors, would leave both the pirate bay and mega upload alone if they where not stealing from anyone.

        Just look at myspace and be your own judge :wink wink:

        How much do you allow the record label companies to make in profits before their work should be pirated and shared amongst thieves and scumbags ?
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        • Due
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          • Mar 2001
          • 3620

          #34
          Originally posted by MaDalton
          did he make money so far?
          He paid off his 1st mortgage with 3942 downloads, his car with 382 downloads and his is drinking mojitos all day long now in the Caribbean for 2 downloads per drink.
          I buy plugs
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          • kane
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Aug 2001
            • 20684

            #35
            Originally posted by gideongallery
            so you saying that the record industry should have a right to destroy the only chance that those independents have because they have a strangle hold on the old media.

            If anything that a reason to leave sites like the pirate bay and mega upload alone.
            I never said that.

            I simply said if you want to be a superstar like U2 or Taylor Swift you need the help of a major label.

            As for The Pirate Bay and Mega Upload being left alone. . . that is another topic that I am not going to debate because it will do nothing but waste time.
            Last edited by kane; 04-26-2012, 10:03 PM.

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            • gideongallery
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              • Aug 2003
              • 7082

              #36
              Originally posted by Due
              Per your logic then because they don't publish the music for everyone then it's okay to steal from them ?
              seriously moron what about the statement

              We didn't outlaw the VCR because some people daisy chain them together to make boot leg copies (until Sony figured out a way to stop that)

              they went after the people who USED the tool to infringe, they didn't outlaw the tool
              do you not understand.

              This is a clear example of the tool being used LEGALLY

              and yet your still attributing the actions of the users to the tool

              go back and try and download copyright material from the pirate bay without a torrent client on your machine.

              https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7216...Not_one_excuse

              you can't even infringe without the actions of another completely independent company.

              With the vcr you could "infringe" with just the products sold by a Single company.

              “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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              • slapass
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Nov 2002
                • 14625

                #37
                Originally posted by gideongallery
                seriously moron what about the statement



                do you not understand.

                This is a clear example of the tool being used LEGALLY

                and yet your still attributing the actions of the users to the tool

                go back and try and download copyright material from the pirate bay without a torrent client on your machine.

                https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7216...Not_one_excuse

                you can't even infringe without the actions of another completely independent company.

                With the vcr you could "infringe" with just the products sold by a Single company.
                I think you are missing that the VCR had legitimate uses and Pirate Bay pretty much doesn't. Their business model was designed around a loophole in the copyright law that was in Sweden. They have been successfully prosecuted under the law several times.

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                • pornmasta
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 20014

                  #38
                  How to become a famous DJ thanks to megaupload:

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                  • gideongallery
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 7082

                    #39
                    Originally posted by slapass
                    I think you are missing that the VCR had legitimate uses and Pirate Bay pretty much doesn't. Their business model was designed around a loophole in the copyright law that was in Sweden. They have been successfully prosecuted under the law several times.
                    how stupid do you have to be to post that in a thread where an artist is legitimately using that site to promote themselves.


                    as to being convicted

                    they were convicted of assisting copyright infringement when the police admitted they didn't know if the pirate bay trackers were involved because they left DHT turned on.

                    They got rail roaded once.


                    They have no totally disabled the tracker completely. So if they turn off DHT (limit themselves to only transactions the pirate bay is involved in) now no copyright infringement will happen at all.

                    “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                    • gideongallery
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 7082

                      #40
                      Originally posted by slapass
                      95% of zero. Woohoo! You are a total idiot.


                      number 8, 10,11,12,13,14,15,16

                      on the best selling hip hop /rap charts


                      http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestselle...music_1_3_last

                      and number 1 on the Reggae chart

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                      • Jakez
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 5656

                        #41
                        Originally posted by gideongallery
                        because mega upload pays you for putting your content on their site

                        your arguing that an artist should lose that revenue stream and replace it with a cost.

                        Would you support a 200% tax on your content to give free money to independent artist


                        mega upload was profitable and the only reason they disappeared is because the government violated the procedures they were supposed to follow.
                        Yes I realize they paid them, but how much? Like $0.001/download? And don't you have to reach 50,000 downloads just to begin getting paid for them? Is it really worth the small amount they make from megaupload when all their links could be dead overnight? Bandwidth is such a small cost, you make it as if they will go broke over $4/mo hosting fees. Not to mention hosting on their own domain such as "punkband.com/newalbum.zip" will allow people to type in "punkband.com" into their browser.
                        Last edited by Jakez; 04-28-2012, 09:47 AM.
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                        • gideongallery
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                          • Aug 2003
                          • 7082

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Jakez
                          Yes I realize they paid them, but how much? Like $0.001/download? And don't you have to reach 50,000 downloads just to begin getting paid for them? Is it really worth the small amount they make from megaupload when all their links could be dead overnight? Bandwidth is such a small cost, you make it as if they will go broke over $4/mo hosting fees.
                          dan bull made an extra 7k a year from mega upload/file lockers

                          When you use the give it away for free, and if you like it buy it model you can give a shit load of your music away for free.



                          Not to mention hosting on their own domain such as "punkband.com/newalbum.zip" will allow people to type in "punkband.com" into their browser.

                          that the stupidest statement you have ever made

                          one simple entry in the webhosting plan allows me to redirect

                          www.mybandname.com/myalbum to what ever mega upload link i want.

                          Remember the whole pointer thing with files means that if i uploaded my file to mega upload first (something i could easily do if i were the copyright holder) i got credit for the download (because everyone else was a pointer to that file not their uploaded version of the file)

                          something i could not get if i hosted it myself.

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                          • gideongallery
                            Confirmed User
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 7082

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Jakez
                            Yes I realize they paid them, but how much? Like $0.001/download? And don't you have to reach 50,000 downloads just to begin getting paid for them? Is it really worth the small amount they make from megaupload when all their links could be dead overnight? Bandwidth is such a small cost, you make it as if they will go broke over $4/mo hosting fees. Not to mention hosting on their own domain such as "punkband.com/newalbum.zip" will allow people to type in "punkband.com" into their browser.
                            oh and btw if i told you to pay send me a check for what ever your paying on your hosting bill.

                            Would you do it.

                            And if you have a problem with me telling you to pay more for no good reason, why do you believe it ok to do it some one else.

                            “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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