The Wrath of God

[amacontent]

No Jesus? Pretty sure his existence has been proven to be true.

Just because a guy walked around and called himself son of god foesnt mean its true, Theres hundreds of people now that walk around calling them selves god or son of god.

And how has it exactly been proven.. because of scriptures and books and pictures. Theres pictures and books on Santa Claus, does he really exist.

[DamianJ]

No Jesus? Pretty sure his existence has been proven to be true.

Got a link to a citation that isn't just hearsay? You know, evidence? Historical document?

Anything?

[Donny]

Just because a guy walked around and called himself son of god foesnt mean its true, Theres hundreds of people now that walk around calling them selves god or son of god.

And how has it exactly been proven.. because of scriptures and books and pictures. Theres pictures and books on Santa Claus, does he really exist.

There is more evidence for the existence of Jesus than evidence for the existence of Julius Caesar. Baddog didn't make any statements about the claims made about Jesus, just his existence.

[jigg]

So is the statement that God is a vengeful bastard or that God of the Old Testament is a fiction?

Many would have an issue with YHWH's traits and character portrayed in the Old testament.

[OldJeff]

Got a link to a citation that isn't just hearsay? You know, evidence? Historical document?

Anything?

Roman Census for the time, completely non religious. Jesus did exist, and was crucified, everything about God / miricles / whatever not withstanding, he was real.

[$5 submissions]

Considering the fact that your father was a Pentecostal minister and you went through a healthy period of doubt, it makes perfect sense you would post this thread.

While it is easy to answer the questions raised by these instances in the Bible with the assertion that G-d is an arbitrary, angry, vengeful bully. Another approach would be to ask if God can murder people. He can't. If you believe he IS the Creator, then he can't murder. He is just taking back his creations/his property due to the choices they, out of free will, made.

If I create something and let you borrow it, if I retake it, I still own it and can do whatever with it. I can't be accused of stealing my own property.

The Earth is not perfect. Adam's fall made sure of that. However, the good news is that people always have a choice if they would accept Grace into their lives and become new creatures and free from the penalty of Sin. The same acceptance also gives them the power, through again Grace, to be free from the POWER of Sin.

Just my beliefs, bros. Not forcing it on anyone

[wehateporn]

Proof that Jesus is The Sun, the light of the world

[SilentKnight]

No Jesus? Pretty sure his existence has been proven to be true.

Indeed, you're right. He migrates annually to the Niagara region every growing season to pick grapes for minimum wage to support his family of 14 back in Mehico.

[Donny]

Proof that Jesus is The Sun, the light of the world

You do realize a simple google search shows much of that video was completely incorrect, right? They get most of the stories wrong, not just the parts about Christianity.

[wehateporn]

You do realize a simple google search shows much of that video was completely incorrect, right? They get most of the stories wrong, not just the parts about Christianity.

100% of Christians won't roll over, they try their hardest to fight the information in the video, but it's a powerful video.

I'm not saying there is no God, I wouldn't know that, but organized religion is clearly about control

[Donny]

100% of Christians won't roll over, they try their hardest to fight the information in the video, but it's a powerful video.

I'm not saying there is no God, I wouldn't know that, but organized religion is clearly about control

I'm not even referring to that. I am talking about simple accuracy. Even the Wikipedia article about the film talks about the outright inaccuracies. They totally get ancient myths wrong, etc.

[XSAXS]

The #1 reason I believe that Jesus is who He said He is:

In the Gospel of John we read that the apostle Thomas would not believe that Jesus was resurrected from the dead. He said that he would not believe unless he could see the wounds in Jesus hands and put his fingers into the wound in His side. According to John, one week later it happened. The resurrected Jesus appeared to all the disciples, and Thomas was able to touch the healed wounds for himself, and he exclaimed "My Lord and my God!" (Jn. 20:24)

Ok... just another wild Bible story, right?

Yes, BUTTTT.......

According to verifiable sources OUTSIDE the Bible -- Over the next 30-50 years, Thomas traveled longer and further than any other disciple spreading the message of a Risen Savior. And he was eventually martyred in India (speared several times and thrown alive into an oven).

These accomplishments are well documented outside the Bible by Christian and non-Christian sources.

So why would a man who (at first) did NOT believe in a Risen Christ throw away his normal, comfortable life and willingly submit himself to persecution, punishment, torture, and death if he knew that Jesus was a fake or that His claims were fraudulent?

As $5 Submissions said... this is just my own view. Not suggesting anyone else has to agree with it. I've tried to disprove the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus many times, but there are way too many extra-Biblical sources that endorse its veracity.

[BlackCrayon]

is being a fake ass god pusher not working out for ya, donny?

[Radical Bucks]

Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool.

[Donny]

is being a fake ass god pusher not working out for ya, donny?

It's been going on 6 years. That would be a long time to pretend to believe something I don't believe, don't you think?