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  • Sid70
    Downshifter
    • Dec 2002
    • 16413

    #1

    You shall not pass!



    Why "SHALL" not WILL?

    GFY Experts in here, plz!
    Русня, идите нахуй!
  • Scott McD
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Nov 2002
    • 67792

    #2
    Fatfoo has all the answers...


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    • FlexxAeon
      Confirmed User
      • May 2003
      • 3765

      #3
      proper english
      flexx [dot] aeon [at] gmail

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      • UniqueD
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2004
        • 1022

        #4
        Shall With Determination
        The British traditionally use shall to express determination or intention on the part of the speaker or someone other than the subject of the verb. Fowler’s offers an example from British author Evelyn Waugh: “One day you shall know my full story.” This does seem to offer a different connotation than “One day you will know my full story.” It makes the author sound more determined. However, using shall in this way isn't common in America (1).

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        • Tom_PM
          Porn Meister
          • Feb 2005
          • 16443

          #5
          "You will not pass" sounds like a wimpy prediction.
          "You shall not pass" sounds like enforcement is pending.
          43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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          • Sid70
            Downshifter
            • Dec 2002
            • 16413

            #6
            Got it, thanks. So "WILL" is kinda not that determined and sure.
            Русня, идите нахуй!

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            • CaptainHowdy
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Dec 2004
              • 94151

              #7
              What a "peculiar" concern ...

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              • ilnjscb
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2009
                • 8958

                #8
                Shall is used in the second and third persons to imply that the will of the subject is not being taken into account, such as to make a promise, command or threat. That's why I never say, "Shall you pass me the butter?"
                Last edited by ilnjscb; 04-19-2011, 08:37 AM. Reason: Those damn melungens

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                • RyuLion
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 32382

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ilnjscb
                  Shall is used in the second and third persons to imply that the will of the subject is not being taken into account, such as to make a promise, command or threat. That's why I never say, "Shall you pass me the butter?"

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                  • Chosen
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 63151

                    #10
                    It should be "Thou shalt not pass"

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                    • Sid70
                      Downshifter
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 16413

                      #11
                      I'm sure sure you bastid you will not pass = You shall not pass
                      Русня, идите нахуй!

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                      • DWB
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 31779

                        #12
                        You ass hats are assuming they speak the same English on Middle Earth as we humans do on normal earth.

                        Jeeze.

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                        • ottopottomouse
                          She is ugly, bad luck.
                          • Jan 2010
                          • 13177

                          #13
                          ↑ see post ↑
                          13101

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                          • Houdini
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2001
                            • 1651

                            #14
                            Gandalf is a top, that's why.

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                            • ilnjscb
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2009
                              • 8958

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chosen
                              It should be "Thou shalt not pass"
                              That would mean the Balrog is familiar, like a drunk uncle or a lap dog. Though if he is whipping you with his fiery whip, only a small portion of your brain could be devoted to proper grammar, so you'd probably get a pass.

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