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Choice is an Illusion
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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I am not leaving adult. However, I am diversifying into some other things.
Right now I am putting a lot of focus into my online development, and web hosting business (adult and mainstream). I will continue to shoot content for my foot fetish and tickling clip stores and sites, as well as license to those I have build sites for. As well, I will continue doing my celebrity membership sites, forum and rest. The profit margins are simply too good to stop. That said, I am no longer interested in running the day to day grind needed on my adult properties, so I am looking for someone else to develop an run them at 50% profit share (after expenses). Site List: * FF Traffic Tube Site(s) * FF Link List (new) * FF Membership Site(s) * Tickling Membership Site(s) * Various Other FF and Tickling Site(s) * Celebrity Membership Site * Various Celebrity Sites, Blogs, Forums * FF Search Engine * Misc Secondary Sites * Numerous Clip Stores Ideally this person would come in and take the massive amount of celebrity content, and build a bigger network of sites. Traffic and membership. Said person would also take my high retention and converting foot fetish and tickling niches, and expand the marketing and promotion while increasing revenue. Obviously this is going to be performance based. You get access to my various existing CMS and other scripts, plus the new stuff we are working on. Because I push a lot of other business, I can typically work out better pricing on content and other things. So you would get the benefit of that, as well as my programmer(s) and designer(s) for help in existing sites, as well as promotion materials and new sites. The handling of your 50% can be done any number of ways. So that is secondary to finding the right person who fits the skills sets needed for driving traffic, possible affiliate program, hours and creativity needed for this. Any sites with existing revenue you are not going to be splitting. Only new sales. I am in the midwest, EST. So I would prefer someone who is also based in the United States. Not only for the non-compete, but also in regards to working hours. If you have any type of direct sales, mainstream, or hosting background it's a plus. You are not going to be given a $10k budget every month to waste on advertising. You need to know how to build organically, and traditionally. Once you deliver some sales, we will look at setting a budget for you in regards to PPC, and other marketing efforts. Either you know how to drive sales and traffic, or you do not. You also get access to my assistant(s) who are available to help you during the week if need be. They can do the mundane tasks like forums & blog posts, as well know how to do it for SEO purposes. They can take on some additional tasks if available, and easy enough for them to learn. They are not from an adult, or online, background. So their understanding of the 'why' is minimal. I really am enjoying working on my new scripts, and development company. But I still enjoy the adult industry, and filming my own personal toe porns that are financed by others. I will never learn the celebrity market either, as I would do it for free as a hobby if I had more free time. That said, I simply have other ambitions and I need someone who can develop my existing properties, and new one's. Serious Inquires Only Please. |
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Choice is an Illusion
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In regards to those who've been in contact on this, a couple of points.
If we develop a site, sell it later, then I would look at doing split (again, after expenses) down the road. As I would be giving you all the tools, and you would be the one promoting the site and ramping up the stats. You do not have to be super man coming in. However, I would expect you to be able handling existing sites, and developing the new ones. If down the road that means an affiliate program for my adult websites, hosting, and other things so be it. This would be like a full time job to handle all this if you are not proficient. Make no mistake. Even with my assistants handling some of the mundane tasks. You still need to know what you are doing to get sales and traffic going. Building link and sales via various types of submits, social networks, and other methods. Once you have established that, and you have run in some revenue. We'll look at other methods available. On top of the existing sites, you would also be developing some new one's I feel are necessary. Again, you will use my tools, content, contacts, and what not to build the various pieces one by one and manage them to get the most out of them over time. This is a long term position for the right person. That person should be hungry and driven by cash money. Not just looking for a job. Especially since it is performance driven. If I give you all the tools, and you can't make money out of it. This is the wrong business. |
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I'm not interested in your offer, but it might help you find a serious "partner/worker" if you point out a few things ahead of time:
1) What is the current income/expenses on these adult properties that you mention above? 2) Does the "partner/worker" only get paid above and beyond the current income (if any)? 3) If the sites are profitable, how are you going to differentiate between current income and new income? 4) It's somewhat clear what you want this new "partner/worker" to do (basically build up a network of sites, drive traffic/income and split the profits with you) ..... what exactly are you providing? 5) Is this a partnership --- or are you looking for a worker, who is paid on a commission basis? If it's a partnership, do they also own the sites? You need to have a little more clarity in your post to attract a serious inquiry. |
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While most of these answered already, even if touched on vaguely.
1. I would never disclose that publicly. More over, your concern is on new revenue. 2. Manager would be paid 50% on all revenue generated after expenses. 3. There is more than one way to do this. Easiest, tracking on their efforts via links. 4. I am providing hosting, scripts, content, plus access to my designers, programmers. I will also provide my knowledge and experience in my main niches for what has worked for me in the past and present. My assistants to help them on mundane tasks which will speed things up. 5. Not a partnership, nor do them own sites. They simply share in revenue generated from their efforts, after expenses. Lastly, most 'serious inquires' would ask these question privately or on the phone. I would not reveal most details on a public forum. However, those who have followed me over the years have an idea of what my background is. Those who haven't should contact me directly. Quote:
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You keep stating "after expenses". I'm assuming that #4 -- you make it look like your providing hosting, scripts, content, etc.. however, that will be taken out as an expense...correct? So, basically, as I said, you should be more clear..... you're looking for affiliates. In addition, you're looking for affiliates to build up sites that "you own". Honestly, I don't see the advantage here. Maybe I missed something...and apologize in advanced if that is the case. |
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Example One: If you are a 'worker' who has not money vested of any kind. I give YOU the... * I pay for the license to the scripts/CMS. * I pay for the designer work. * I pay for the content that will go into the site. * I pay for the hosting. I have obviously just put thousands of dollars into a site for you, the 'worker', as you put it to go test drive around the web and see if you can make some money. Example Two: Next example. I give you/buy license to the content for a clip store(s). I give YOU... * The content to use for the clips store * The tools to promote that clips store * The mentoring/coaching/guidance to make money with that clip store.... Then I still have money to recoup on my initial investment. Example Three: I have spend years shooting content, developing my own newsletters, traffic sources, sales and business. Those are monies generated out of my own efforts. Why would someone who is coming in on performance basis for NEW BUSINESS be paid on pre-existing business? Does it work like that at ANY sales job in this world for a sales man? Do you think I am simply going to buy or develop site scripts, shoot content, or buy/license content, and the rest for someone to drive around the web and maybe make some money while giving up 50% of the revenue without recouping some of the investment? Your argument here does not hold any water in regards to the way business works. It actually sounds like some of the people who push for hourly pay, like a worker, so that they are not directly accountable. It would be like me building the factory, hiring the employees, giving you the cars to sell then you are inferring that I would not recoup my investment. Same as for assistants/models-content/licensing-content/hosting/script money invested? I would give you all the tools to make you successful on content that have proven to sell and retain. But you do not think I should take any of that into account, like on example one, yet give you 50% revenue? Sorry bud. Stick to being an affiliate and thinking that way. This is a bigger opportunity for the right individual to run existing assets, and develop new sites and networks with my investment and tools. No offense. Anyway, as you've said. You are not applying for this position. So leave the replies to those who are, and they can contact me directly if interested and qualified. |
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You still have not answered the question in regards to "after expenses". Since you didn't answer it..... I'm assuming you're taking all this stuff your claiming to provide (licensing, content, design, hosting, etc) out as an expense? |
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Choice is an Illusion
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I have been nice giving you the benefit of the doubt to this point, despite your minimal time on GFY and post count with no sig showing, nor any contact information of any kind in your profile proving you are even in this industry. It has become apparent you are little more that trolling this post at this point. Go back over to IQ69. Have a nice day. |
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It's obvious since your not answering the question, you will be deducting all the hosting, design fees, licensing, etc.. from the expenses. So, in the end, you're not really providing much of anything. Just looking for affiliates. |
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Choice is an Illusion
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Keep the bumps coming pal.
Tell your buddies over at IQ69 hello. See sig nig. |
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Come on man, those are not the questions of a troll.
They are valid questions and he is actually helping your thread Barefootsies. From what I see most of the time in threads like this you ramble on with some fantastic but usually vague offer, and then come along and self bump with "answers to questions that have cropped up" so how is this different in anything other than you not controlling the questions? Whilst as I have told you before, I admire your work ethic in that you appear to be constantly on the go, you do send mixed messages to people who may be interested in working with you. You clearly know what you are doing in your niches and most people, myself included could learn a lot from you I am sure, but you are also come over as very patronising of anybody who ventures a comment offer than "great deal" or "sounds good", and that doesn't help you, in fact I would imagine quite the opposite. Honestly, I am just trying to help you here, (not just giving you a break from bump duty) but feel free to give me a "whatever bud" or equally self amusing put down response. Remember though, I am not the one looking to demonstrate that it would be good to work with me. ![]()
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So in reality, there really is no need to keep going on and on about something in various replies, much less back to back replies if you are not interested. Hence trolling reference. People who are interested can figure things out themselves or contact me directly. A few have managed to do that since the thread was posted. They can also give me additional ideas, and proposals. Again, something people who are interested and contact me directly, do themselves. Quote:
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Pay It Forward
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funny stuff
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Choice is an Illusion
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Speaking of nonsense...
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Choice is an Illusion
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Since this thread will apparently be bumped all weekend, we'll go ahead and get it started off right with some offers. You can chick the sig for some additional goodies.
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I'm not sure why someone actually any good at this would actually take the job when they could make ~4x (no 50% rev split and actual 100% ownership versus 0% ownership of the sites) as much doing it for themselves.
Whats preventing you from hiring someone, they increase your sites earnings by 100% in a month and then you simply selling the sites off, leaving them with 1 tiny pay check for the month and you getting 2x as much for your sites? Its hardly a 50% profit split, especially when you control most of the expenses (that I'm assuming they'd be required to use)
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Choice is an Illusion
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Additionally, if someone else can afford to do it all themselves. Have at it. Buy or license all the scripts, and content. Build it all yourself. Make that money. However, 90% of this industry can't afford anything over $500.00. Happy Easter. |
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You missed the part where I said "good". Sure there are plenty of broke fucktards out there, but would you actually want them managing and growing your sites? hell no.
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