SCAMMER: dFaWebmaster (aka Rule on ICQ) Ripped a bunch of us off!

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  • Naughty-Pages
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2006
    • 4533

    #1

    SCAMMER: dFaWebmaster (aka Rule on ICQ) Ripped a bunch of us off!

    WARNING: dFaWebmaster BAIT AND SWITCH with hardlinks, you pay, he puts them up, then removes them and then tries to collect renewal fees 3 months before they are due even though the links do not exist!

    I got scammed for the first time ever on GFY, I guess I should consider myself lucky.




    dFaWebmaster
    an abbreviation for:
    "Dumb Fuck Attack Webmaster"
    Goofy fuckers ICQ# 324886262 using the name "Rule"

    Don't get SCAMMED, DOUBLE CHECK YOUR SHIT with him!

    I contacted others that bought links from him... Out of the 10 that replied so far, 9 of them were also ripped off.. (90% were SCAMMED).

    I found out he did the same exact thing to them. Many said their links were pulled within days of paying. Many complained to him and he put them back up, only to remove them later and put them back up after a 2nd complaint. Others just got refunds or disputed the purchase.
    (I am not going to drag the other victims into this by mentioning their names, but I am making this thread aware to them so they can post if they want).


    If you've bought from him:

    1- Double check your "actual" renewal dates. (Based on my experience with him, he tends to lie about your renewal date)
    2- Double check your backlinks throughout the time you paid for. (Your links might not even be there and he'll still try to collect renewal fees)

    I purchased 12 links from the goofy dude to each be placed on 12 of his sites for 1 year. (144 links total) in this thread

    Don't pick on me that I bought from the dude, because at that time the sites he was selling them on were actually adult sites LOL (this is before he started selling those links from dropped insurance agency sites, travel agency sites, hotels, etc.. and annoyingly hitting people up constantly)

    Anywhoo.. the goofy fucker started hitting me up for the renewal fee over 80 days before they were to expire, telling me they expired. Then after he "realized" they were not expired, he kept hitting me up at different times telling me they expired trying to get the renewal fee.

    The goofy phucknut hit me up again on Saturday, (21 days before they expire) and was tired of him nagging me, so thought I might renew early.
    I hadn't really checked the backlinks since he first put the links up, but I gave it a check today, and guess what.. the links are not there.. checked google cache, and they weren't there the last time his sites were cached.
    While it is too early to check archive.org, I checked the stats for the 12 sites I had him link to and easily concluded that he pulled the links in the middle of January 2009.
    Looking at the stats for the 144 links I paid for with 12 sites that were on every one of his 12:
    They received hits from him only from November 2008 until January 2009. Then from February 2009 not a single hit for the last 9 months. NOTHING!
    Some sites were sending 100-150 hits a month (some 10 to 50 hits a month). Then by February it went to 0. It would be hard to believe that would happen as the links he sold are right at eye level on the index page.
    There were 144 links in total, but all of a sudden there were 0 hits from February on, that is just statistically impossible.
    There is simply no way that out of 144 links he has not sent a hit in the past 9 months

    So I paid for 12 months and I received 3.

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    Trying to collect renewal fees 3 months early by lying that they were expired (and the links were not even on his site). It takes balls to collect renewals for links that do not exist and combine that with lying about the renewal date, this dude just is over the top:
    Code:
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    Rule (8/12/2009 9:24 AM): Hi buddy, how are you? 
    Rule (8/12/2009 9:24 AM): your link on us [b]are expired[/b] would you like to renew for it?
    
    naughty-pages (8/12/2009 9:29 AM): they [b]expire on October 31st.[/b]
    
    Rule (8/12/2009 9:30 AM): [b]yes they will[/b]
    Rule (8/12/2009 9:30 AM): 2 months will go
    
    naughty-pages (8/12/2009 9:30 AM): catch me in 2 months
    
    Rule (8/12/2009 9:30 AM): then I am reminding all that had links to be expired
    Rule (8/12/2009 9:30 AM): ahh ok great
    Rule (8/12/2009 9:31 AM): october
    Rule (8/12/2009 9:32 AM): between are yu buying for good deals
    
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    Rule (8/13/2009 7:31 AM): hello like to renew links?
    naughty-pages (8/13/2009 7:36 AM): ummm.... [b]you already asked me that.. catch me in 80 days[/b] when they actually expire...
    naughty-pages (8/13/2009 7:37 AM): 2.5 months from now..
    
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    Rule (9/8/2009 5:03 PM): [b]its 1 year now[/b]
    Rule (9/8/2009 5:03 PM): Hi naughtypages would you like to renew your links on us?
    
    naughty-pages (9/8/2009 5:05 PM): [b]again.. this is like the 4th time.. when they expire on October 31st i will probably renew[/b].. contact me the week before they expire.. 
    
    Rule (9/8/2009 5:05 PM): ok just letting you know
    Rule (9/8/2009 5:05 PM): thanks buddy
    
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    Rule (10/10/2009 7:54 AM): hey buddy
    Rule (10/10/2009 7:55 AM): oct ber 31 iexpires
    Rule (10/10/2009 7:55 AM): links you got to rewnew it?
    
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    Telling me "they are expired" when there is almost 3 months left, then telling me "it's 1 year now" when there is 2 months left and the fucking links were not even there!


    (continued in the next post)
    Last edited by Naughty-Pages; 10-13-2009, 07:11 AM.
  • Naughty-Pages
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2006
    • 4533

    #2
    (continued from previous post)

    Here is our chat on Sunday when I confronted him about being scammed (there was more between the 10th and 11th but not posting it as the goofy fucker can't speak english and it would be too confusing to post):

    Code:
    Rule (10/10/2009 7:54 AM): hey buddy
    
    Rule (10/10/2009 7:55 AM): oct ber 31 iexpires
    
    Rule (10/10/2009 7:55 AM): links you got to rewnew it?
    
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    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:31 AM): anyway.. i am going to need a refund on those links i purchased from you last year
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:31 AM): haha are you crazy?
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:32 AM): everyone has to be talk
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:32 AM): no.. but you pulled my links after putting them up
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:32 AM): for it
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:32 AM): my 12 links are not on any of those 12 sites
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:32 AM): hmmp I am not pulling any links
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): yes the links are pulled for a month
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): my links are not there..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): due to renewal
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): yes I pulled it for a week
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): the renewal is not due until October 31st
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): afetr
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): and you have been try to collect a renewal on these links without the links even being there
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): thats why I am asking if you are renwing or not
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:33 AM): so i need a refund.
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:34 AM): when someone pays for 1 year they expected 1 year,
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): and looking at googles cache, you pulled them awhile ago..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): I can put it again cause its only a week
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): will go for
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): most likely from the begining.
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): then after it will atumatically removed
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): after talking to a bunch of other people, it appears you have done the same to them
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): so i will need a full refund.
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): hmmp
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): I am not
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:35 AM): i am not paying for something i did not get
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:36 AM): you should had told that for a month pasts
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:36 AM): so we are not expecting any decisions for you man
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:36 AM): if you told us that in a month after
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:36 AM): then we gonna arrangeevrything
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:36 AM): It is extremely dishonest of you to have people pay for links and then pull them.
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:36 AM): but you are asking another deal
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): i am paid up for 20 fucking more days..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): as I had told you I am not pulling you are just fucking me
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): to refund even a week will go
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): gfor your deal
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): but you pulled them at least several months ago, or possibly even from the very beginning.. (based on what others have said you have done to them)
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): you should have it says to me after 11 months
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): yes and I can put the links of your up
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:37 AM): for 20 days remaining
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:38 AM): i didn't think you would rip me off and pull my links
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:38 AM): so i did not check..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:38 AM): several months ago --? >>>??
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:38 AM): i checked googles cache the other day and the links were not there..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:38 AM): hmmp its your problem ate
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:38 AM): but I gonna make the link up for due days
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:38 AM): won't know the exact date you pulled them until archive.org add the rest of 2008 and puts up 2009 for your sites.
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:39 AM): i dont know what it says but I am not running any deal off
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:39 AM): i had several people tell me that you have done this to them.. you pull the links a few days or weeks after people pay..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:39 AM): you are asking me another quite scenario after making some deals
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:39 AM): hmmp
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:39 AM): realyy
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:39 AM): many have had to continually ask you to put the links back up, or have gotten a refund..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:40 AM): I am not having problems with them
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:40 AM): only you
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:40 AM): i just don't understand why in hell you would do business that way
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:40 AM): seems you are asking me another way to link with
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:40 AM): you tried collecting renewal fees from me 3 months before they expired, lying to me telling me that they had expired.. 
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:40 AM): yes they are expiring
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:41 AM): for october
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:41 AM): when i pointed out that it was till october 31st, you then said it was a reminder..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:41 AM): so what are you expecting @
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:41 AM): no you said they were "expired"
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:41 AM): then you tried it a couple more times..
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:41 AM): iyour wasting my time
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:41 AM): very dishonest.
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:42 AM): so you're just going to rip me off like that? 
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:42 AM): man I said I will put your links for couple of days lasts
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:42 AM): then you are fucking annoying me
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:43 AM): couple days??  what about the year i paid for ?
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:43 AM): I am annoying you??  LMFAO!
    
    Rule (10/11/2009 8:43 AM): I am jus telling you renewal or just rest of days to put it in OR MONTHS
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:43 AM): you need to speak english
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 8:44 AM): i have no idea how to translate what this means:  "I am jus telling you renewal or just rest of days to put it in OR MONTHS"
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 9:02 AM): I just figured out that you pulled the links in the middle of January 2009.
     
    Looking at the stats for the 144 links I paid for with 12 sites that were on every one of your 12:
    They received hits from you only from November 2008 until January 2009.
    Then from February 2009 not a single hit for the last 9 months. NOTHING!
    Some of your sites were sending 100-150 hits a month (some 10 to 50 hits a month).
    Then by February it went to 0.  It would be hard to believe that would happen with the links you sell on those sites being right at eye level on the index page.
    There were 144 links in total, but all of a sudden there were 0 hits from February on, that is just statistically impossible.
    So I paid for 12 months and I received 3.  (which aside from stats as proof will be revealed when archive.org adds 2009).
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 9:05 AM): Between lying to me that they were expired 3 months too soon, (then covering up and saying it was just a reminder), and then pulling that same stunt a couple more times with me... and the links you wanted renewal fees on were not even there..  that's just messed up dude...  no wonder you haven't been posting on GFY that much and it explains why you have been in invisible mode on ICQ the past month..
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 9:14 AM): No response huh??      You really cannot dispute what you did...   I just can't figure out why you would pull my links 9 months before they were to expire, and then try repeatedly to collect renewal fees 3 months and 2 months in advance lying to me that they were expired and not think you would get caught??
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 9:20 AM): The amount of the refund I am due is: $103.50  if you want to be cheap and pro-rate it, then it's 9/12th's of that (75%) = $77.63   And it's not about the money, it's more about the principle of being ripped off.. that's just bad business dude..
    
    naughty-pages (10/11/2009 9:21 AM): (ignoring me won't make me go away)...

    If you were able to follow that 4 year old jibber jabber he does: I love how he makes it my responsibility and my fault for not checking to see if he was ripping me off... LOL

    i could care less about the money, and it really was not that much money at all it's more about being made a fool of.. I asked for a partial refund just to see if he would be a man.. nope..


    Rule's ICQ Status message: "Rule, note: everyone is important to us, always open-hand to all clients"

    Not sure WTF open-hand means to him.. an "open hand" is that what "clients" get smacked with??

    SLAP (verb) 1. hit with something flat, like a paddle or the open hand.

    I hate scammers...

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    • Denny
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Feb 2005
      • 17387

      #3
      lol people why do you do business with these losers... I said here many times he is an idiot and it's better to stay clear of him.

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      • Naughty-Pages
        Confirmed User
        • Oct 2006
        • 4533

        #4
        Originally posted by Denny
        lol people why do you do business with these losers... I said here many times he is an idiot and it's better to stay clear of him.
        Hey, i said don't pick on me LOL....

        This was almost a year ago, and those were actually adult domains.. (i know that's unusual for him, but really, believe it or not).

        I ignored all his constant IM's over the past year for buying shit on those dropped insurance and travel agency sites and crap, and haven't done anything with him since..


        Anywhoo.. just had and 11th person get back to me, make that now 10 out of 11 people ripped off.. now 91% rip-off rate....

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        • xsabn
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2007
          • 2815

          #5
          i bought some links from this guy and none of them are online
          Last edited by xsabn; 10-13-2009, 07:40 AM.

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          • Barefootsies
            Choice is an Illusion
            • Feb 2005
            • 42635

            #6
            Damn that sucks!

            Thanks for the head's up.

            Should You Email Your Members?

            Link1 | Link2 | Link3

            Enough Said.

            "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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            • Frankthefreakintank
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2008
              • 156

              #7
              Originally posted by xsabn
              i bought some links from this guy and none of them are online
              Seeing the same thing couple are still online but majority are down
              looking for good hardlink trades

              email- [email protected]

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              • Tulku
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2003
                • 672

                #8
                Naughty-pages told me about this problem and I've checked if my links are up and lol they were removed .. for 2nd time .. I've messaged Rule and he add them again but just saw that he removed other of my links hah .. I'll not work with him again for sure

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                • madmoon
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 64

                  #9
                  yeah, shit happens, be more careful next time
                  web design service provider |www.maliciouscreations.com |
                  ICQ: 586739801 | E-mail: [email protected]

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                  • Denny
                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 17387

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Naughty-Pages
                    Hey, i said don't pick on me LOL....

                    This was almost a year ago, and those were actually adult domains.. (i know that's unusual for him, but really, believe it or not).

                    I ignored all his constant IM's over the past year for buying shit on those dropped insurance and travel agency sites and crap, and haven't done anything with him since..


                    Anywhoo.. just had and 11th person get back to me, make that now 10 out of 11 people ripped off.. now 91% rip-off rate....
                    Yep, I remember that offer... and I said... thore links are piece of shit!

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                    • nikad
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2579

                      #11
                      I never bought anything from him, but I do know that there are other that have been selling links on dropped non adult domains for quite a while :P

                      The Filthy Few

                      [email protected]

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                      • Cyber Fucker
                        Hmm
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 12642

                        #12
                        probably some india boy

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                        • cwd
                          Confirmed User
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1955

                          #13
                          Got scammed by this guy.

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                          • fatfoo
                            ICQ:649699063
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 27763

                            #14
                            Thanks for posting info, Naughty-Pages. Will remember the name: dFaWebmaster AKA Rule on icq.
                            Send me an email: [email protected]

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                            • Jack Sparrow
                              Almost goners..
                              • May 2008
                              • 11420

                              #15
                              Ive been posting warnings in a lot of his threads.. guess that didnt help..

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