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  • nico-t
    emperor of my world
    • Aug 2004
    • 29901

    #1

    This is how propaganda works



    No fantasies, no blatant bullshit stories, but subtle spins in headlines to influence the reader to push their opinion towards a particular narrative.
  • MindWaste
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2001
    • 3662

    #2
    Hitlar had it right..
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    • Boozer
      So Fucking Banned
      • Feb 2005
      • 3134

      #3
      Reddit is a prime example.

      The vast majority of commenters will not even read the actual article but will still form an opinion based solely on the title.

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      • sarettah
        see you later, I'm gone
        • Oct 2002
        • 14364

        #4
        Originally posted by nico-t


        No fantasies, no blatant bullshit stories, but subtle spins in headlines to influence the reader to push their opinion towards a particular narrative.
        Those are 2 different editions. One early, one late. Not different markets.

        They reflect a changing story. The early edition reflects Trump meeting with the Mexican President and the later edition after Trump did a speech on the same day reasserting his stance on immigration and the wall.

        That is the way real newspapers work, they report the story as it is at the time the edition comes out.

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        • sarettah
          see you later, I'm gone
          • Oct 2002
          • 14364

          #5
          In this image which is a bit clearer you can see that the lead for the story has also changed:



          With the early edition (on left) saying "GOP nominee tells Mexican leader NAFTA can be improved, wall payment is disputed."

          And the Late edition (on right) saying: "GOP nominee doubles down after Mexican leader says his country won't pay for barrier."

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          • 2MuchMark
            Mark of 2Much.net
            • Aug 2004
            • 51122

            #6
            Originally posted by nico-t


            No fantasies, no blatant bullshit stories, but subtle spins in headlines to influence the reader to push their opinion towards a particular narrative.
            Hi Nico,

            You need to do a little more research before you share a meme. Like Sarettah said, the one on the right is an early edition of the same paper. The person who made the meme is either just stupid, or he's trying to lie to you, or both. No need to help him.

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            • nico-t
              emperor of my world
              • Aug 2004
              • 29901

              #7
              I have never heard of a newspaper releasing 2 editions a day.
              It doesn't change my message of how propaganda works though. Many people believe 'propaganda' equals 'fantasy' - however, mostly the stories are true, but the propaganda lies in HOW they tell you something.

              BTW i wouldn't call the the Wall Street Journal a 'real newspaper', they're notorious for spreading propaganda - their reporting is extremely biased just like all big news corporations.

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              • XMaster
                Poker Player
                • Jul 2003
                • 2945

                #8
                Please do some fact checking before posting thise kind of thread. Don't you see that YOU play the game of a propaganda without your knowledge by RT this kind of "info" ??

                fact checking about this :
                https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ws...ump-headlines/
                still moneyhere

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                • sarettah
                  see you later, I'm gone
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 14364

                  #9
                  Originally posted by nico-t
                  I have never heard of a newspaper releasing 2 editions a day.
                  Then you are uneducated in thee way Newspapers are published. Many newspapers publish multiple editions throughout the day.

                  https://www.quora.com/How-common-is-...e-late-edition

                  How common is it for newspapers to print multiple editions in a single day (eg. the late edition)?

                  Dan Robrish, founder and editor of a small-town newspaper in the USA
                  Answered Oct 27, 2016 · Author has 3.8k answers and 2.4m answer views
                  The bigger the paper, the more likely it is to happen. Plenty of metropolitan dailies do this — as far as I know, that’s still the norm for metro dailies, though a lot of them put out just a single edition on major holidays.
                  https://people.howstuffworks.com/newspaper6.htm

                  Large newspapers may publish multiple editions per day, all of which must be ready to leave the newspaper plant at a certain time.

                  The first edition, sometimes called the bulldog edition, goes to the outer limits of the newspaper's circulation area. This may be several counties or even an entire state.

                  Later editions contain progressively fresher news and go to smaller areas.

                  The final edition, which goes to press after midnight, contains the latest news but covers the smallest geographical area, usually a city.
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                  • nico-t
                    emperor of my world
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 29901

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sarettah
                    Then you are uneducated in thee way Newspapers are published. Many newspapers publish multiple editions throughout the day.

                    https://www.quora.com/How-common-is-...e-late-edition



                    https://people.howstuffworks.com/newspaper6.htm



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                    Where i live newspapers are printed in 1 go. I have not studied the printing processes for newspapers in all the countries around the world so thank you for clarifying.
                    Anyway, this wasn't the point of this thread

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                    • RedFred
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 9782

                      #11
                      Originally posted by nico-t
                      I have never heard of a newspaper releasing 2 editions a day.
                      That's because you don't live in America. Educate yourself on the American press.

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                      • DBS.US
                        Geo Cities
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 11842

                        #12
                        New papers/TV news, just people trying to get ad sales.
                        Have an unused domain? Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site and be making money tonight

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                        • CaptainHowdy
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 94161

                          #13
                          Originally posted by DBS.US
                          New papers/TV news, just people trying to get ad sales.
                          . . .

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                          • Bladewire
                            StraightBro
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 56220

                            #14
                            Nico-T, the alt-right Polish aristocrat living in the Netherlands, wants you to trust HIS news slanted sources, not the news sources you choose.

                            He wants you to think that news stories don't change, and new information is not learned, like state news in dictatorships. Dictatorships like North Korea & Turkey, give you their unchanging propoganda.

                            Beware people telling you to trust only them


                            Skype: CallTomNow

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                            • TheSquealer
                              Chief Complaint Officer
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 26305

                              #15
                              What i learned about propaganda in Russia is that you don't need to lie at all to really sway the masses.

                              there were two things;

                              1) More powerful than a great lie is just choosing which parts of the truth you want to emphasize and talk about. When people can look and say "oh, thats a thing" with respect to whats being talked about, it becomes much more powerful.

                              2) Every single person in Russia would tell you "you can't believe the news"... but when they're told what they WANT to hear,, it is quickly accepted as fact.
                              .
                              Yes, fewer illegal immigrants working equates to more job opportunities for American citizens.

                              Rochard

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                              • Bladewire
                                StraightBro
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 56220

                                #16
                                "Trust us" ~ Russia


                                Skype: CallTomNow

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                                • sarettah
                                  see you later, I'm gone
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 14364

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by nico-t
                                  Anyway, this wasn't the point of this thread
                                  The premise of the meme you posted was that the paper had been delivered to 2 different places with different headlines based on the political party that was predominant in each area.

                                  That was false, the headlines are based on different editions based on the news that was available at the time that the paper was published. This is exactly how major papers have worked for a long time.

                                  Your argument of "This is how propaganda works" died as soon as your premise was proven false.

                                  This is not how propaganda works, this is how newspapers work.

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                                  • bronco67
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 29026

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sarettah
                                    Those are 2 different editions. One early, one late. Not different markets.

                                    They reflect a changing story. The early edition reflects Trump meeting with the Mexican President and the later edition after Trump did a speech on the same day reasserting his stance on immigration and the wall.

                                    That is the way real newspapers work, they report the story as it is at the time the edition comes out.

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                                    It's kind of ironic that Nico-T tried to make a point about propaganda while unwittingly making a thread which is basically propaganda.

                                    Using the term "unwitting" to describe him infers he has some level of wit, but that would be an insult to other morons.

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                                    • sarettah
                                      see you later, I'm gone
                                      • Oct 2002
                                      • 14364

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by bronco67
                                      It's kind of ironic that Nico-T tried to make a point about propaganda while unwittingly making a thread which is basically propaganda.

                                      Using the term "unwitting" to describe him infers he has some level of wit, but that would be an insult to other morons.
                                      Yes, the meme he posted is propaganda and that is how propaganda works. People accepting an unsupported premise.

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                                      • Bladewire
                                        StraightBro
                                        • Aug 2003
                                        • 56220

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by sarettah
                                        The premise of the meme you posted was that the paper had been delivered to 2 different places with different headlines based on the political party that was predominant in each area.

                                        That was false, the headlines are based on different editions based on the news that was available at the time that the paper was published. This is exactly how major papers have worked for a long time.

                                        Your argument of "This is how propaganda works" died as soon as your premise was proven false.

                                        This is not how propaganda works, this is how newspapers work.

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                                        His Russian propoganda that American newspapers give different stories to different regions, failed.


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                                        • tony286
                                          lurker
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 57021

                                          #21
                                          When I was a kid , 100 yrs ago. The daily news used to print a morning edition and an afternoon edition .

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                                          • nico-t
                                            emperor of my world
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 29901

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by bronco67
                                            It's kind of ironic that Nico-T tried to make a point about propaganda while unwittingly making a thread which is basically propaganda.

                                            Using the term "unwitting" to describe him infers he has some level of wit, but that would be an insult to other morons.
                                            This is actually the first time ever in your posting history you've posted something clever, as opposed to your usual incredibly retarded posts

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                                            • nico-t
                                              emperor of my world
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 29901

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Bladewire
                                              Nico-T, the alt-right Polish aristocrat living in the Netherlands, wants you to trust HIS news slanted sources, not the news sources you choose.

                                              He wants you to think that news stories don't change, and new information is not learned, like state news in dictatorships. Dictatorships like North Korea & Turkey, give you their unchanging propoganda.

                                              Beware people telling you to trust only them
                                              You mean real news like this?



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                                              • RedFred
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2016
                                                • 9782

                                                #24

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                                                • nico-t
                                                  emperor of my world
                                                  • Aug 2004
                                                  • 29901

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by RedFred
                                                  Oh my god, I've had 1 incorrect post out of 1000s of brilliant factual 100% correct posts all the time, and all the idiots who are posting complete bullshit 24/7 come out of the woodwork to gloat

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                                                  • Sarn
                                                    WWW
                                                    • Sep 2015
                                                    • 12586

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MindWaste
                                                    Hitlar had it right..
                                                    Goebbels mix 50% true with 50% lie
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                                                    • Bladewire
                                                      StraightBro
                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                      • 56220

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by nico-t
                                                      Oh my god, I've had 1 incorrect post out of 1000s of brilliant factual 100% correct posts all the time, and all the idiots who are posting complete bullshit 24/7 come out of the woodwork to gloat

                                                      You're so cocky, I like that about you


                                                      Skype: CallTomNow

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                                                      • crockett
                                                        in a van by the river
                                                        • May 2003
                                                        • 76818

                                                        #28
                                                        This topic shows how easily red hats fall for propaganda.. Rather than take time to investigate what they are outraged about, they just post a meme created by someone else who has a agenda..

                                                        Congrats Nico-t you were fooled by propaganda.. The sad part is you wont figure that out despite it being pointed out to you. You will continue on believing what you posted.
                                                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                        • crockett
                                                          in a van by the river
                                                          • May 2003
                                                          • 76818

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by RedFred
                                                          In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                          • crockett
                                                            in a van by the river
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 76818

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by nico-t
                                                            You mean real news like this?



                                                            You were proven wrong, but instead of owning up to it, you now go into distraction mode. Yet you wonder why no one takes you red hats seriously.. The worst part about this whole thing, is this had already been fact checked you been willing to look prior to going from outraged to re-post mode, while completely ignoring "verify mode"...
                                                            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                            • nico-t
                                                              emperor of my world
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 29901

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by crockett
                                                              You were proven wrong, but instead of owning up to it, you now go into distraction mode. Yet you wonder why no one takes you red hats seriously.. The worst part about this whole thing, is this had already been fact checked you been willing to look prior to going from outraged to re-post mode, while completely ignoring "verify mode"...
                                                              ↑↑↑ coming from someone who is proven wrong about almost everything he posts
                                                              But hey I understand, you have never caught me being wrong about anything so this one exception to all my flawless posts must feel great for you

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                                                              • crockett
                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                • May 2003
                                                                • 76818

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by nico-t
                                                                ↑↑↑ coming from someone who is proven wrong about almost everything he posts
                                                                But hey I understand, you have never caught me being wrong about anything so this one exception to all my flawless posts must feel great for you
                                                                sure, sure..
                                                                In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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