UK Man Jailed for 'Hitler Was Right' Tweet

[wehateporn]

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...weet-labour-mp

An internet troll accused of sending an antisemitic message to Labour MP Luciana Berger has been sentenced to four weeks in prison at Merseyside magistrates court.

Garron Helm, 21, from Litherland, north of Liverpool, tweeted a picture of the MP with a Holocaust yellow star superimposed on her forehead, with the hashtag ?Hitler was right?. The tweet, which referred to Berger as a ??communist jewess?, read: ?You can always trust a Jew to show their true colours eventually.?

Helm send the tweet in the early hours of the morning on 7 August and claimed to have sent it in a state of anger and frustration. He pleaded guilty to sending an offensive, indecent or obscene message.

Berger, the MP for Liverpool Wavertree, said she hoped the jail term would deter would-be trolls. ?This sentence sends a clear message that hate crime is not tolerated in our country,? she said. ?I hope this case serves as an encouragement to others to report hate crime whenever it rears its ugly head.?

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[PR_Glen]

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

[k0nr4d]

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

What if it was a nazi ww2 vet?

[MrTrollkien]

Seems a bit excessive.
Having said that, someone was jailed for 18 times as long for stealing water in the riots so perhaps it's one of those 'exemplary sentences'.
Can we have some of those for law-breaking police, child abusing MPs and convicted journalists too?

[oppoten]

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

Why would he do that?

It was meant for a jew, not a vet.

[TeenCat]

anyone who wrote that may be mentally ill and can be danger for the society, so it is good to have him locked and watch him for a while ...

[stoka]

i find some western european countries being highly hypocritical for being so touchy about nazi symbols and shit, yet harboring numerous east european nazi butchers after the war

[Captain Kawaii]

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

Most vets of ww2 could not care less unless you are speaking of the 0.06% jewish people who served in the us military during the war. Say it to a holocaust survivor...that's your story.

[CDSmith]

The limey's don't screw around.

He's lucky he never got a public flogging as a bonus penalty.

[k0nr4d]

Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

[pornmasta]

i find some western european countries being highly hypocritical for being so touchy about nazi symbols and shit, yet harboring numerous east european nazi butchers after the war

The struggle is now easier since there is no more real nazis to fight...
You know it is so gratifying to be an antinazi, you could think that you have a spirit and a soul.

[MrTrollkien]

Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

It is called double standard.

[MaDalton]

i'm ok with that

[RummyBoy]

Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

Both the UK and the US going the same way.

Freedom lives on in your memory......

[pornmasta]

Both the UK and the US going the same way.

Freedom lives on in your memory......

Can i be a communist in the 60"s ?

[PR_Glen]

Most vets of ww2 could not care less unless you are speaking of the 0.06% jewish people who served in the us military during the war. Say it to a holocaust survivor...that's your story.

yeah most vets wouldn't care about people saying hitler was right.. how can you be this wrong this often? how is it even possible. the law of averages should at least have you being right a few times here and there even by accident...

[CaptainHowdy]

Wasn't Hitler from the left??

[DamageX]

Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

That depends on the country. Some will jail or fine you for hate mongering regardless of what ethnicity you direct it towards. Some will not give a shit regardless of what ethnicity you direct it towards.

But yeah, that freedom of speech sure as fuck seems to be selective in terms of what it applies to...

[Jel]

freedom of speech isn't a get out of jail free card for being a hateful vile cunt.

[MaDalton]

Wasn't Hitler from the left??

only on paper

[rogueteens]

You don't often think of Jews as communist do you? Its normally the complete opposite - capitalists.

[rogueteens]

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

Not in the UK, even Labour politicians can be racist (yes, you, Dianne) but only if you are racist towards the indigenous population. anything else is a hate crime worse than kiddy fiddling.

[RummyBoy]

I'm probably the only one that thinks you shouldn't be jailed for a tweet...EVER.

Fine....... leave it there. No interference and that's basically how it was from the days of CERN/JANET up until around 2000 (ish).

Freedom of speech is over.
Freedom of privacy is over.

Those were the main ones we had I guess....

[Captain Kawaii]

yeah most vets wouldn't care about people saying hitler was right.. how can you be this wrong this often? how is it even possible. the law of averages should at least have you being right a few times here and there even by accident...

Lets face it you look at history with present day glasses. You are in fact, an imbecile. Americans did not want to enter into ww2. We were dragged in by Roosevelt who used the Japanese to pull us in. The history is there, you just don't want to face it so go suck a dick and shut the fuck up.

Maybe start a tube system that is worth more than nothing to affiliates.

A quick Ken Burns fact. More than 25% of American soldiers went into battle in Europe with unloaded weapons.
Americans knew about the camps for 3 years and did...................ZIP.

[oppoten]

You don't often think of Jews as communist do you? Its normally the complete opposite - capitalists.

Many of the Bolshevik leaders were Jewish, and many Germans thought that communism was Jewish.

I'm sure you already know that

[420]

Wasn't Hitler from the left??

Nope, third right (reicht?).

Go to jail for talking shit on the internet. Har har welcome to earth.

[MaDalton]

ahh, jeez, so much lack of history knowledge...

[CaptainHowdy]

Nope, third right (reicht?).

Reich = Reign/Empire ...

[420]

Reich = Reign/Empire ...

yes but it almost sounds like right

[shoot twice]

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet.

I completely agree.

Some Internet memes are harder to take than others. But Hitler's recent Internet popularity really makes me nauseous. It's always the same little arrogant punk that clicks away spouting off this shit from the safety of his home. It's about time these punks learn that they shouldn't say anything to someone on the Internet that they wouldn't be willing to say their face.

I vote they give the punks 2 years hard labor in a real jail with dangerous criminals in order to straighten them out.

[Matt 26z]

he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet.

What if you told an Iraq war vet that Saddam was right? How many would agree? I'll bet most of them now wonder what the point of that war was.

Not many people know the facts behind WW2. The brainwashing in the US and Europe has been pretty strong for decades.

Here is Hitler talking about the war in 1942 (and the only known recording of him using his natural voice). You won't see this material in any US or European history books:

[pornmasta]

I completely agree.

Some Internet memes are harder to take than others. But Hitler's recent Internet popularity really makes me nauseous. It's always the same little arrogant punk that clicks away spouting off this shit from the safety of his home. It's about time these punks learn that they shouldn't say anything to someone on the Internet that they wouldn't be willing to say their face.

I vote they give the punks 2 years hard labor in a real jail with dangerous criminals in order to straighten them out.

[MaDalton]

What if you told an Iraq war vet that Saddam was right? How many would agree? I'll bet most of them now wonder what the point of that war was.

Not many people know the facts behind WW2. The brainwashing in the US and Europe has been pretty strong for decades.

Here is Hitler talking about the war in 1942 (and the only known recording of him using his natural voice). You won't see this material in any US or European history books:

i have seen this like 10 times on german TV and you are still a Nazi

[pornmasta]

this video is not available in my country ?
There must be something hidden...

[420]

this video is not available in my country ?
There must be something hidden...

If you're in France its because they speak badly about les baguette magiques in the video.

If you're in Germany, well you know why it is not available.

[rogueteens]

Many of the Bolshevik leaders were Jewish, and many Germans thought that communism was Jewish.

I'm sure you already know that

oh, I'm not saying that Jews cannot be communist, just that you don't often think of them that way.

[rogueteens]

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

having spoken to many ww2 veterans, I can tell you that the overwhelming majority told me that they thought it was all a waste of time. (talking from a UK perspective) they almost all felt that immigration and the EU/politicians had damaged the country much more than Hitler would have done.

[Anthony]

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

Meh, Glen the average age of a WWII vet is 92. That is, if you can find one alive still.

[pornmasta]

If you're in France its because they speak badly about les baguette magiques in the video.

If you're in Germany, well you know why it is not available.

i'm shocked !

[DamageX]

freedom of speech isn't a get out of jail free card for being a hateful vile cunt.

Actually, I am of the opinion that freedom of speech should allow for anyone's views to be expressed, be they racist, homophobic, sexist or whatever. Even if I despise them. As long as those views are simply hateful words, I believe they should be allowed. It's only when they're starting to encourage acts of violance, against the "hated" ones, that society/government should intervene.

[Captain Kawaii]

Keep opening your dimwitted yap Pimproll Glen and show us what kind of POS you really are.

Perhaps this is what pissed off the UK guy and why Hitler is back in the news. He didn't go to Argentina, he went to Tel Aviv.

Israel-Gaza conflict: Right-wing Israeli politician calls for Gazans to be â??concentrated in campsâ?? â?? and then all resistance â??exterminatedâ?? - Middle East - World - The Independent

The proof is in Feglins own facebook post. Pretty disgusting. The Likuds are ceiling the fate of their country.

Thousands of Jews are outraged at Feglin's NeoNzai comments. He is even banned from the UK. Has been for 6 years. Just WOW.

A senior Israeli politician has called for the ?conquest of the entire Gaza Strip? and the deportation of Palestinians to make way for Jewish settlers.

Moshe Feiglin, the Deputy Speaker of the Knesset and a member of the governing Likud party, outlined his plans in an open letter to Benjamin Netanyahu published on Facebook.

Writing last week after the reported abduction of an Israeli soldier Hadar Goldin, he called on the Prime Minister to vastly increase the aggression of Operation Protective Edge, which has already killed more than 1,800 Palestinians and destroyed thousands of homes.

Demanding the end to the two-state solution, Mr Feiglin called for the ?annihilation? of Hamas and its supporters and the creation of camps where civilians from Gaza will be ?concentrated? until they can be deported to other countries.

He wrote: ?What is required now is that we internalise the fact that the Oslo [accord] is finished, that this is our country ? our country exclusively, including Gaza.

?There are no two states, and there are no two peoples. There is only one state for one people.?

His vision for the Gaza Strip is to rebuild it into a ?true Israeli tourist site? like Jaffa, described by Mr Feiglin as a ?flourishing Israeli city with a minimum number of hostile civilians?.

[pornmasta]

The proof is in Feglins own facebook post. Pretty disgusting. The Likuds are ceiling the fate of their country.

Hitler's Rant - Original Video with English Subtitles: Film = Downfall/Der Untergang - HD - YouTube

Feigling

[aka123]

Meh, Glen the average age of a WWII vet is 92. That is, if you can find one alive still.

Both of my grandfathers were WWII vets, and both died about 10-20 years ago, oldest one being 95. Depends from who you ask, they either fought on the axis side, or if you ask me, they didn't, as to us it was just another war against Russia.

[seeandsee]

What hitler was right, i hate when they assume what do you mean...

[pornmasta]

grandfathers were WWII vets.

no no no, this is clearly a nazi helmet

[aka123]

no no no, this is clearly a nazi helmet

Sorta, and that is not my grandfather.

[Jel]

Actually, I am of the opinion that freedom of speech should allow for anyone's views to be expressed, be they racist, homophobic, sexist or whatever. Even if I despise them. As long as those views are simply hateful words, I believe they should be allowed. It's only when they're starting to encourage acts of violance, against the "hated" ones, that society/government should intervene.

I almost agree - except when it's directed directly against someone. eg if I was that tool mineistaken, I can talk generally about how I despise brown babies etc. But if I call someone who is black a hahahahahaha and society had it right when their grandad was a slave, that crosses the line into a personal attack. Attack someone personally, and expect to feel a consequence - seems many are unable to make that distinction though between general xyz-phobic stuff (which I agree, everyone is entitled to their opinion) and directly calling a homosexual eg a shit stabbing queer cunt. Or directly telling that person AIDS was a great thing because it wiped out some of his fellow homos.

Funny, I was talking to someone the other day how many people feel they can say what they like, and run behind 'free speech' etc. There's definitely a distinction between free speech/personal attacks, and I'm truly amazed there aren't more killings in places like the US, where free speech is not only misinterpreted, but used as a shield to say whatever the fuck someone feels like saying, expecting no repercussions, and then being surprised when there are

[bronco67]

People should be allowed to say what they want. It's more dangerous behavior to put someone in jail for saying something, than it is to say "Hitler was right". Is it not obvious that the guy is wrong by saying that about Hitler? Why would anyone be threatened by that?

[Jel]

People should be allowed to say what they want. It's more dangerous behavior to put someone in jail for saying something, than it is to say "Hitler was right".

that isn't the context of what happened though, is it. Not even a fucking bit. Sheesh.

[Jel]

'rapists are right'

a shit statement, but if someone wants to hold that view, well, that's their view.

getting a picture of someone's daughter who was raped, superimposing a roofie on their forehead, and sending that to them with the caption 'rapists are right' would be a slightly different matter - or am I the only one here who can see the difference? Is that just 'free speech', and dangerous to to suggest there might just be a consequence?