Blacks declare firefighter entrance exam to be raciss, NYC judge agrees and blocks hiring

[Marcus Aurelius]

Blacks declare firefighter entrance exam to be raciss, judge agrees and blocks hiring of 300 firefighters in NYC.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/j...ztsaA6XK7nQ0uO

What's hilarious about this is how much this lawsuit completely owns blacks and browns. The test is essentially an intelligence test. What the minorities' lawyers are saying is that as a group the minorities are too stupid to pass an intelligence test. Incredibly ironic.

[arock10]

Extremely legit source

[dyna mo]

How did this case turn out? The story is almost 4 years old.

[brassmonkey]

How did this case turn out? The story is almost 4 years old.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1170920

[dyna mo]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1170920

well, there ya go. I could easily see how the ny fire dept could be a good ole boy's network. Especially when looking at how the %s are so far skewed.

thanks for the link.

[Marcus Aurelius]

MurrayHill

08/04/2010 11:50 PM

Has anyone ever seen one of these tests? One of my friends in the department showed me a practice test that was available to recruits based on actual examples of questions from a past test. There are 9 subject areas on the test. Please remember that the examples that I provide are ACTUAL EXAMPLES from a past test.

1. Memorization---looking at a picture of a fire scene. They would take the picture away and you'd answer multiple choice questions about where the fire hydrants, fire alarm boxes, points of exit, etc., were located.

2. Visualization---you were shown the layout of a building and then asked to choose from 4 MULTIPLE CHOICE PICTURES of what the building would look like from the front and side

3. Spatial orientation---they would show you a map of like 5 blocks with some of the streets being one-way and you would have to figure out the fastest way to drive a fire truck from one address to another while still looking at the map as a reference.

4 Reading comprehension---they would give you 2 paragraphs saying what to do in a situation...for example what to do if there's a fire in a subway tunnel. Then you would answer multiple choice questions about what the instructions say is most important to do immediately...which things to look out for...and what you should not do...and you can look back over the paragraphs as much as you want to refresh your memory lol.

5 Written/verbal expression---they would give you like 3 sentences about a fire scene and you would have to choose from 4 multiple choice answers as to which one best summed up the information if you were going to relay the information over a radio or telephone quickly.

6. Information ordering---they would give you a list of things to do in order of importance (for example if people are trapped in an elevator) and then give you a specific scenario and tell you the two steps that were taken so far. Then you would have to choose the next step out of 4 multiple choice answers...and again you could look over the original instructions as much as you want lol.

7. Problem sensitivity---asking which things would need more care or a bigger threat. For example, when positioning a metal ladder, which thing would be the biggest threat to safety. Then you would have 4 multiple choice answers of things like tree branches, ELECTRICAL WIRES, a person wearing a bathrobe, or a person standing nearby.

8. Deductive reasoning---making a logical decision. For example, which size rope to use in a rescue situation if you should use one 7 times the person's body weight. Then they would GIVE YOU A CHART listing each size rope and what the maximum body weight times 7 would be. Then they would give you a body weight and ask you to pick out the right size rope for a person of that weight.

9. Inductive reasoning---For example, you are shown a daily maintenance log where Monday says things like added gas, brakes squeaked while stopping, and replaced a windshield wiper. Tuesday shows they added oil, replaced a turn signal bulb, and that the brakes locked up when the brake pedal was pushed down hard. Wednesday says they added air to tires, odd vibration when pressing the brake pedal, and rotated hoses. You are starting as the driver on Thursday. Which item would need the most immediate care? A. electrical system B. brakes C. engine D. tires

Those are the 9 subject areas that you were quizzed on. The test requires you to possess those VERY BASIC mental skills. Now black people are claiming that it is discriminatory to make them pass THAT TEST in order to do a LIFE AND DEATH job. Do black people realize how ridiculously dumb they are making themselves look by doing this? They are flat out saying that it is discriminatory to give a test that measures basic intelligence, reasoning ability, logic, and reading comprehension---because black people do not possess those skills as often as white people do.

[Tdash]

What's the matter, did a black guy punch your fat ugly face today? I'd be mad too.

Anyway, the NYPD has a more rigorous exam yet it's demographics matches that of the city's. Like the other poster said the FDNY has always been an inclusive boys club for years.
If you have connections, you're physically fit and/or you're white(Irish is a plus), you're in.

There are things that go on behind the scenes you do not know. Now go get ready for your klan rally.

[Grapesoda]

Blacks declare firefighter entrance exam to be raciss, judge agrees and blocks hiring of 300 firefighters in NYC.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/j...ztsaA6XK7nQ0uO

What's hilarious about this is how much this lawsuit completely owns blacks and browns. The test is essentially an intelligence test. What the minorities' lawyers are saying is that as a group the minorities are too stupid to pass an intelligence test. Incredibly ironic.

yes this is happening in many areas, teachers exams etc... I don't know about you but I definitely want my kids to have a black teacher and I don't even give a fuck if they are smart as long as they are black!

[SilentKnight]

How do you know when the guy sitting next to you at the bar is a firefighter?

Oh, don't worry...he'll tell you.

[Grapesoda]

How do you know when the guy sitting next to you at the bar is a firefighter?

Oh, don't worry...he'll tell you.

(substitute gay for fire fighter) at the store the other day a guy was walking around blabbing full blast on his cell phone about breaking up with his boyfriend

[Matt 26z]

at the store the other day a guy was walking around blabbing full blast on his cell phone about breaking up with his boyfriend

And?....

If it had been a girl talking loudly about breaking up with her boyfriend would you have posted about it on GFY?

[Grapesoda]

And?....

If it had been a girl talking loudly about breaking up with her boyfriend would you have posted about it on GFY?

had the thread had been about 'asshole loudly talking on their cell phones', then yes... of course

are you trying to archive self-realization by attempting to appear morally superior

[Rochard]

Sounds like the test is fine, and 35% of the people who took it and passed were in fact minorities. That seems about right to me. Then again, I don't expect firefighters to know the history of the war of 1812 - I just want them to save my burning house.

But no matter what you shouldn't put a freeze on hiring firemen or police offices ever.

[Matt 26z]

Anyway, the NYPD has a more rigorous exam yet it's demographics matches that of the city's. Like the other poster said the FDNY has always been an inclusive boys club for years.
If you have connections, you're physically fit and/or you're white(Irish is a plus), you're in.

There are things that go on behind the scenes you do not know. Now go get ready for your klan rally.

The controversy was indeed over minorities being unable to pass the test. It wasn't about the hiring stage - they weren't making it that far. The judge ordered the test modified. It would be nice to see the actual test to see how relevant it is to the career.

As for the police force matching city demographics, that is very common across the country. Whites and asians don't care what race the cops are, but many blacks and mexicans feel uncomfortable dealing with white cops. So departments often hire to match the community.

[Matt 26z]

had the thread had been about 'asshole loudly talking on their cell phones', then yes... of course

But that isn't what this thread is about, yet you threw out that very random comment about a gay.

are you trying to archive self-realization by attempting to appear morally superior

I just find it unusual that so many blacks are gay bashers when the two groups are fighting a similar struggle and pose no threat to one another. It is based purely on black hate of gays when the reality is that most white gays push hard for race equality.

[brassmonkey]

Sounds like the test is fine, and 35% of the people who took it and passed were in fact minorities. That seems about right to me. Then again, I don't expect firefighters to know the history of the war of 1812 - I just want them to save my burning house.

But no matter what you shouldn't put a freeze on hiring firemen or police offices ever.

exactly!

[Tdash]

The controversy was indeed over minorities being unable to pass the test. It wasn't about the hiring stage - they weren't making it that far. The judge ordered the test modified. It would be nice to see the actual test to see how relevant it is to the career.

As for the police force matching city demographics, that is very common across the country. Whites and asians don't care what race the cops are, but many blacks and mexicans feel uncomfortable dealing with white cops. So departments often hire to match the community.

You don't get it. The exams were just a cover up. You had to have connections in order to get in. Many white firefighters got in without even taking the exam.

[blackmonsters]

What kind of test is really needed here?
These mother fuckers spray water and drive a truck!

[Grapesoda]

But that isn't what this thread is about, yet you threw out that very random comment about a gay.


I just find it unusual that so many blacks are gay bashers when the two groups are fighting a similar struggle and pose no threat to one another. It is based purely on black hate of gays when the reality is that most white gays push hard for race equality.

total fail: follow the thread and read silent knights post

[brassmonkey]

You don't get it. The exams were just a cover up. You had to have connections in order to get in. Many white firefighters got in without even taking the exam.

thats the small portion state jobs are even worse. a friend of a friend or family to get in

[Grapesoda]

What kind of test is really needed here?
These mother fuckers spray water and drive a truck!

[brassmonkey]

What kind of test is really needed here?
These mother fuckers spray water and drive a truck!

its hands on really. you do need to learn chemicals and how fire acts in buildings and structures

[Lichen]

What kind of test is really needed here?
These mother fuckers spray water and drive a truck!

And yet blaques still fail it.


1) There is a fire. What do you do?
a) Rape it
b) Rob it
c) Eat it
d) Put it out
e) Dass Raciss

"Aww sheeyat! Dat ole raciss whitey wiff he trick quessins."
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[Grapesoda]

its hands on really. you do need to learn chemicals and how fire acts in buildings and structures

I know that it's just a funny thought... like when a model tells me: how hard can it be you're just taking a picture

[Grapesoda]

You don't get it. The exams were just a cover up. You had to have connections in order to get in. Many white firefighters got in without even taking the exam.

most industry's and occupations are represented by a lager percentage of the ethnic group that founded the industry.... if you had a great job who would you want a job to go to?

some loser you never meet that you only read/hear negative stuff about or your family?

pretty simple isn't it when you view the reality of the situation

[DBS.US]

Q 25. Where do firefighters cash there checks?
A. Liquor shop
B. Bank
C. Nicks Check cashing.

[blackmonsters]

And yet blaques still fail it.


1) There is a fire. What do you do?
a) Rape it
b) Rob it
c) Eat it
d) Put it out
e) Dass Raciss

"Aww sheeyat! Dat ole raciss whitey wiff he trick quessins."
O
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I have to admit it; I did get the question wrong.

I wrote in "f) Tell white co-worker that a black guy is going to play quaterback and let his tears put the fire out."

[brassmonkey]

I have to admit it; I did get the question wrong.

I wrote in "f) Tell white co-worker that a black guy is going to play quaterback and let his tears put the fire out."

why even answer?

[Matt 26z]

Many white firefighters got in without even taking the exam.

If true, this is a substantial element to the story. It isn't in the posted article. Do you have a source?

[Matt 26z]

total fail: follow the thread and read silent knights post

He didn't write anything about gays. You brought it up on your own.....

How do you know when the guy sitting next to you at the bar is a firefighter?

Oh, don't worry...he'll tell you.

(substitute gay for fire fighter) at the store the other day a guy was walking around blabbing full blast on his cell phone about breaking up with his boyfriend

[brassmonkey]

If true, this is a substantial element to the story. It isn't in the posted article. Do you have a source?

there is no article for this! come on! it's illegal!

[Bryan G]

What kind of test is really needed here?
These mother fuckers spray water and drive a truck!

Fuck you're stupid.

[brassmonkey]

If true, this is a substantial element to the story. It isn't in the posted article. Do you have a source?

you could dig through the history and put yourself in danger when dealing with millions it could get you killed. id like to know how many slipped through not taking a test. the answer could be deadly tho.

[blackmonsters]

Fuck you're stupid.

You're just a butt hurt fire fighter.

[brassmonkey]

I know that it's just a funny thought... like when a model tells me: how hard can it be you're just taking a picture

yeah lighting and angles are what you need and proper lenses. my grandfather taught me how to change my first head. it was a straight 6 then i went to v 8. he never stepped in and did it just told me and i did it all myself.

[Grapesoda]

He didn't write anything about gays. You brought it up on your own.....

you really do a lot of mental jumping jacks to try and be a superior person don't you... he took the direction of a guy pointing attention to himself and I broadened the scope... big deal, get over yourself

[Grapesoda]

yeah lighting and angles are what you need and proper lenses. my grandfather taught me how to change my first head. it was a straight 6 then i went to v 8. he never stepped in and did it just told me and i did it all myself.

grand dads are cool

[escorpio]

You don't get it. The exams were just a cover up. You had to have connections in order to get in. Many white firefighters got in without even taking the exam.

Proof? Or is this something you "just know"?

[sandman!]

[Matt 26z]

there is no article for this! come on! it's illegal!

Investigative news reporters break stories unknown to authorities all the time.

[Matt 26z]

you really do a lot of mental jumping jacks to try and be a superior person don't you... he took the direction of a guy pointing attention to himself and I broadened the scope.

Firefighter mentioning he is a firefighter = gay talking on the phone about breaking up ???

Your bigoted disgust of gays is obvious.

[Just Alex]

Dat edumakation was over rated.

[WDF]

Nicholas Garaufis’s bias against Fire Department is hosed by appeals court.

Brooklyn Federal judge wrong ruling on FDNY hiring test tossed out.

Published: Wednesday, May 15, 2013, 4:00 AM
Updated: Wednesday, May 15, 2013, 4:00 AM

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/b...ommentpostform

“We cannot agree with (Garaufis) that the record revealed ‘copious evidence’ of the officials’ intent to discriminate,” the appeals panel plainly stated.

Then, the court took the extraordinary step of barring Garaufis from presiding over a trial that may well be the next step in the proceedings.

While offering courteous boilerplate that “Garaufis is an entirely fair-minded jurist,” the court slammed him for damning city evidence as “either incredible or inapposite” — off point — without taking the testimony of a single witness.

“We think a reasonable observer would have substantial doubts” about Garaufis’ impartiality, the court concluded. Indeed.

So after all the hype and BS the appeals court said the judge was not impartial and biased.

[mineistaken]

Dass Raciss

[Just Alex]

[PornDiscounts-V]

Go take the los Angeles sheriff test. I did. Sixty questions. You only need thirty right. All verbatim Sat test questions. TWO thousand took the test, and six hundred passed with fifty percent right. Then two thirds of them got disqualified because they:

Smoked pot in the last ninety days.
Sold a controlled substance for profit.
USed the services of a prostitute
Shoplifters in past two years
List goes on.
wtf

[sperbonzo]

Right after I got out of the Army in 93, I took the exam for the Los Angeles Fire Dept. I passed with flying colors. Second highest score of the group. During the individual interview and evaluation, I was then told that there was no point in going to the fire academy, because after I was done I would wait for year and years, maybe forever, to be hired to a fire company. The reason? I was white and I was male. There were quotas, and there were no slots available for my color and gender combination.





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[PornDiscounts-V]

Same reason i am not a cop. Scored very high on oral interviews and told to wait for a call that will never come. My minority and female fellow applicants that scored much lower went straight into background checks.

[blackmonsters]

Right after I got out of the Army in 93, I took the exam for the Los Angeles Fire Dept. I passed with flying colors. Second highest score of the group. During the individual interview and evaluation, I was then told that there was no point in going to the fire academy, because after I was done I would wait for year and years, maybe forever, to be hired to a fire company. The reason? I was white and I was male. There were quotas, and there were no slots available for my color and gender combination.





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So then you road off into the sunset where you forced yourself to suck nigga cock to get over it?

Is that what you're saying?

[Lichen]

Same reason i am not a cop. Scored very high on oral interviews and told to wait for a call that will never come. My minority and female fellow applicants that scored much lower went straight into background checks.

Any normal person wants a competent fireman.

How about this. New York can hire all those who failed and then assign them to only Black and Hispanic neighborhoods. That seems fair. All the Whites who passed the test can serve the White nieghborhoods. Everyone would be happy about that, right?

Oh wait. 2 Black EMTs just let a pregnant Black woman die in New York - and the Blacks are crying RACISM! anyway. I wonder if they passed their tests or were AA hires....