What If Bush Had Done Nothing?

[GrantMercury]

No do-overs, unfortunately.

WHAT IF...Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld had done nothing, and allowed Richard Clarke & Company to continue their pursuit of Osama bin Laden? What if Bush had paid attention to those warnings (as Clinton did)? 9-11 might well have been averted.

WHAT IF...Bush had valued what he inherited -- a balanced budget -- and DONE NOTHING. No massive tax cuts benefiting the top 1/10th of 1 percent. No massive deficits. 8 years -- budget still balanced, instead of trillions in new debt and a tax code designed to make the government untenable without savaging the social safety net.

WHAT IF...Bush had treated FEMA as a serious agency with a vital role to play in national emergencies? What if he'd appointed a serious administrator, instead of an incompetent crony bent on looting the agency and wrecking its ability to function properly? Katrina might have turned out quite differently.

WHAT IF...Bush had hadn't worked overtime to destroy the regulation of financial markets? What if he'd DONE NOTHING, and let regulatory agencies do their proper work? The financial crash of 2007-8 might never have happened.

WHAT IF...most importantly...Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld hadn't conjured stove-piped "intel" to stampede us into war after 9-11? No trillion dollar wars, shoveled onto the spiraling national debt...no thousands of American soldiers killed...no hundreds of thousands of Iraqis killed...no Abu Ghraib...no disillusionment of the American public in our ability to fight and win wars...

What always struck me about Bush and his incompetent cronies is the activist nature of their "wreck everything quickly" administration. All Bush had to do was NOTHING to have a successful presidency. Everything he touched turned (immediately) to shit...and yet he couldn't wait to destroy more. Thank goodness the American people turned on him during the post 2004 "Wind At My Back" "Hand Social Security Over To Wall Street" debacle.

I'm convinced that someday, 50 years from now when historians are analyzing the moment that "broke the back" of the American dream, they'll focus on the Bush Administration -- specifically the catastrophic response to 9/11. Karl Rove's goal was always to repeal the New Deal, monkey-wrench the government to make it untenable, and hand the burning wreckage over to his billionaire pals who are greatly inconvenienced by all those middle class "entitlements", environmental protections and Union rights.

All he had to do was nothing. Instead, he almost wrecked everything.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...-Done-Nothing#

[Helix]

Take a break. Go outside. Enjoy life.

[Robbie]

Take a break. Go outside. Enjoy life.

He can't.
The guy has some kind of mental disorder and is probably a danger to himself and those around him.

[Supz]

Hopefully this guys next on the hit list.

[L-Pink]

Take a break. Go outside. Enjoy life.

He can't.
The guy has some kind of mental disorder and is probably a danger to himself and those around him.

Hopefully this guys next on the hit list.

Amen ?..


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[MK Ultra]

He can't.
The guy has some kind of mental disorder and is probably a danger to himself and those around him.

Like many other dependencies the addiction to the so-called "Blue Kool-Aid" can often cause the addict to exhibit symptoms of extreme liberalism such as advocating for raising everyone's taxes and "redistributing" resources that do not even belong to him.

The inability to move beyond past events concerning "non-liberals" and other types he sees as undesirable is another symptom and should give a clear warning to friends and family that this person has swallowed to much of the dangerous substance and is in desperate need of a immediate dose of reality.

[PornDiscounts-V]

All good what ifs except for toppling the Middle East bad guys. Had he done nothing they would have amassed an army and taken over Pakistan. Then they would have launched the nukes into Israel, Turkey and parts of Europe. Then you'd have world war III.

[Sly]

Daily Kos = Fox News.

I know that's hard for some of you to swallow.

[Rochard]

"broke the back" of the American dream

Did something happen to the American Dream? Hasn't the American dream always been the same - work hard, play hard; A house with a white picket fence and a sports car in the garage?

The American dream hasn't changed at all - It's still the same.

The guy next to me is from Columbia. He works for UPS. He's thrilled to death to be here in the US and can't believe he owns a house with a pool. The guy across the street from him is a landscaper - he has one employee and parks his landscaping truck next to his brand new Corvette. The guy behind me - I kid you not - is building a freaking airplane in his garage.

The American dream is alive and well. You just have to earn it.

[wehateporn]

Once I imagined to myself "What if 9/11 wasn't an inside job?" it was a odd feeling, but I have a strong record of being right about these things, so I quickly got back on track

[ajrocks]

If he had done nothing the US wouldn't be as broke, there would be less people trying to kill the US way of life but he'd still be a douche bag.

[Robbie]

The American dream is alive and well. You just have to earn it.

You're speaking a foreign language to GrantMercury.

He subscribes to the "You didn't build that" line of thinking. Unless the govt. hands it to him, GrantMercury won't ever be "earning" anything

[Matt 26z]

IMO the Republicans saw what was happening to voter makeup across the country and knew they had only a limited amount of time to get what they wanted. Their combined actions were so incredibly destructive, but it was now or never for them.

2008 saw the voter patterns begin to shift and by 2012 the Republicans had no chance. It's only going to get worse for them as aging conservatives die at a rate faster than young conservatives are being recruited.

[Rochard]

You're speaking a foreign language to GrantMercury.

He subscribes to the "You didn't build that" line of thinking. Unless the govt. hands it to him, GrantMercury won't ever be "earning" anything

A lot of people seem to think this....

It's 6:20pm PST and I am still here working, on a Friday, 12 hours... I just got rid of my wife and kid so I can pump out another two hours.... You want, it's yours, but you are going to have earn it.

[sicone]

Did something happen to the American Dream? Hasn't the American dream always been the same - work hard, play hard; A house with a white picket fence and a sports car in the garage?

The American dream hasn't changed at all - It's still the same.

The guy next to me is from Columbia. He works for UPS. He's thrilled to death to be here in the US and can't believe he owns a house with a pool. The guy across the street from him is a landscaper - he has one employee and parks his landscaping truck next to his brand new Corvette. The guy behind me - I kid you not - is building a freaking airplane in his garage.

The American dream is alive and well. You just have to earn it.

Sadly, it seems that most people have forgotten the last part there

[Robbie]

A lot of people seem to think this....

It's 6:20pm PST and I am still here working, on a Friday, 12 hours... I just got rid of my wife and kid so I can pump out another two hours.... You want, it's yours, but you are going to have earn it.

It's 8:07 pm. pacific time now and I'm still working. Gonna stop and have some fun in a few minutes but I'll probably kick back on about 2 a.m. for a little drunken late night work as well. heh-heh

I work weekends, vacations, holidays, etc.

I always figure that somebody somewhere is hungrier than me and if I don't kick enough ass they will pass me by.

Meanwhile, guys like GrantMercury never even get off the starting block. And he will blame everything but himself as he tries to figure out ways to use big government to mooch off the people who work hard.

[seoxpertz]

Having fun...

[Rochard]

It's 8:07 pm. pacific time now and I'm still working. Gonna stop and have some fun in a few minutes but I'll probably kick back on about 2 a.m. for a little drunken late night work as well. heh-heh

I work weekends, vacations, holidays, etc.

I always figure that somebody somewhere is hungrier than me and if I don't kick enough ass they will pass me by.

Meanwhile, guys like GrantMercury never even get off the starting block. And he will blame everything but himself as he tries to figure out ways to use big government to mooch off the people who work hard.

I quit at 8pm also. My kid will be gone all weekend so I'll be working a lot.... Looking forward to it really.

[Rochard]

I should add in that I am watching Blow on Youtube.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwcumthbPnQ

I don't feel guilty because I have the DVD downstairs and also bought it on my Kindle.

[2012]

Take a break. Go outside. Enjoy life.

[GrantMercury]

You're speaking a foreign language to GrantMercury.

He subscribes to the "You didn't build that" line of thinking. Unless the govt. hands it to him, GrantMercury won't ever be "earning" anything

WTF? Dude, you know absolutely nothing about my life. I'm one of the hardest working people you'd ever meet. Here's an idea; If you don't like my posts - don't read them. In fact - I fucking forbid you to read any more of my posts. I insist you ignore them.

[SuckOnThis]

It's 8:07 pm. pacific time now and I'm still working. Gonna stop and have some fun in a few minutes but I'll probably kick back on about 2 a.m. for a little drunken late night work as well. heh-heh

I work weekends, vacations, holidays, etc.

I always figure that somebody somewhere is hungrier than me and if I don't kick enough ass they will pass me by.

Meanwhile, guys like GrantMercury never even get off the starting block. And he will blame everything but himself as he tries to figure out ways to use big government to mooch off the people who work hard.

So now its reached the point where anyone who disliked Bush is a freeloader?

[GrantMercury]

It's 8:07 pm. pacific time now and I'm still working. Gonna stop and have some fun in a few minutes but I'll probably kick back on about 2 a.m. for a little drunken late night work as well. heh-heh

I work weekends, vacations, holidays, etc.

I always figure that somebody somewhere is hungrier than me and if I don't kick enough ass they will pass me by.

Meanwhile, guys like GrantMercury never even get off the starting block. And he will blame everything but himself as he tries to figure out ways to use big government to mooch off the people who work hard.

You're gonna wear out that arm, patting yourself on the back like that can lead to repetitive stress injuries.

[L-Pink]

WTF? Dude, you know absolutely nothing about my life. I'm one of the hardest working people you'd ever meet. Here's an idea; If you don't like my posts - don't read them. In fact - I fucking forbid you to read any more of my posts. I insist you ignore them.

God, you're a dick.


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[GrantMercury]

So now its reached the point where anyone who disliked Bush is a freeloader?

I irritate him because I call him on his libertarian, self-congratulatory bullshit. As a result, he's spun an elaborate fiction about me to comfort himself. I've forbidden him from reading any more of my posts. He can't deal.

[GrantMercury]

God, you're a dick.


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You're an asswipe.

[ThunderBalls]

It's 8:07 pm. pacific time now and I'm still working. Gonna stop and have some fun in a few minutes but I'll probably kick back on about 2 a.m. for a little drunken late night work as well. heh-heh

You think anabolic steroids, propecia, viagra, and booze is the wisest cocktail?

[Captain Kawaii]

11:13 still working. Its fun to work.

[GrantMercury]

A lot of people seem to think this....

It's 6:20pm PST and I am still here working, on a Friday, 12 hours... I just got rid of my wife and kid so I can pump out another two hours.... You want, it's yours, but you are going to have earn it.

Yes, of course. But it's increasingly difficult to do so. We're going in the wrong direction. The middle class IS shrinking. The gap between rich and poor IS widening. Social mobility IS less and less attainable. Why is that a good thing? As someone who cares about more than just my own lot in life, I find it disturbing.

WASHINGTON ? Benjamin Franklin did it. Henry Ford did it. And American life is built on the faith that others can do it, too: rise from humble origins to economic heights. ?Movin? on up,? George Jefferson-style, is not only a sitcom song but a civil religion.

But many researchers have reached a conclusion that turns conventional wisdom on its head: Americans enjoy less economic mobility than their peers in Canada and much of Western Europe. The mobility gap has been widely discussed in academic circles, but a sour season of mass unemployment and street protests has moved the discussion toward center stage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/us...anted=all&_r=0

Here's Dumbya's own brother on the subject:

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush Tuesday described the growing economic chasm between rich and poor as "un-American" and called it the biggest "structural" problem facing the nation on Tuesday.

"Going forward, we have to deal with our longer structural problems. The biggest one, as far as I'm concerned, is that we're no longer socially mobile as a country," Bush said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" program.

http://www.newsmax.com/US/Bush-socia...3/05/id/493237



And the "American Dream" comment aside, the article is spot on.

[GrantMercury]

You think anabolic steroids, propecia, viagra, and booze is the wisest cocktail?

[GrantMercury]

Daily Kos = Fox News.

I know that's hard for some of you to swallow.

The post isn't about Kos. It's about W. What in that post isn't true?

[EriktheRabbit]

Jeb's comments are ironic since his family and their friends, going back to Prescott helped/allowed the chasm to grow in the first place.

jeb likes to pretend he's not a scumbag. priceless.

[Robbie]

You think anabolic steroids, propecia, viagra, and booze is the wisest cocktail?

You left out the whores and recreational drug use.

Damn there are some nerdy people on here. Thunderballs..you need to earn that name and get your ass out to Vegas and let me take you out and show you some fun.

P.S.: HRT (hormone replacement therapy) is testosterone. A hormone that is produced naturally in a man's body but drops to almost nothing as you age. It is not "anabolic steroids". Educate yourself and don't look so foolish before you stick your nose in my business.

[Robbie]

I irritate him because I call him on his libertarian, self-congratulatory bullshit. As a result, he's spun an elaborate fiction about me to comfort himself. I've forbidden him from reading any more of my posts. He can't deal.

Sorry GrantMercury...I don't "self congratulate" anything. Yes I'm "libertarian". Not ashamed of it one bit.

And I"m sorry I can't obey your new rule forbidding me to read your posts.
Unlike you, I don't follow orders.
I know you are used to it...from your boss, from the govt., etc.

You really are melting down now, which doesn't make any sense. I thought you would be happy once Baby Jesus Obama won the election and is trying his best to raise taxes on everyone.

But I'm starting to suspect you don't have any propensity for happiness.
So enjoy wallowing in your misery.

I really have no idea why you post on GFY (since you've never contributed even ONE business thread), but it is good for a laugh and I do enjoy watching you spin.

[Robbie]

We're going in the wrong direction. The middle class IS shrinking. The gap between rich and poor IS widening. Social mobility IS less and less attainable.

That's strange. I coulda sworn that we've had all these govt. programs to redistribute wealth in place for the last 50 years. And the majority of Presidents in the last 50 years have been Democrats.
And the Congress was RULED by Democrats with only a couple of times of Republicans having any power over the last 50 years.

So you're saying that all those decades of Democrats in control and govt. getting bigger and bigger and taking over all aspects of our lives has led to the situation getting WORSE???

Thanks for finally admitting that GrantMercury! I knew that one day you'd open your eyes and admit the truth.

[adultGeek]

this is fun !!

[Rochard]

7am and I"m back for more abuse.... Wife is sleeping so I'll slip in my ear phones and start working.

[Trend]

Did something happen to the American Dream? Hasn't the American dream always been the same - work hard, play hard; A house with a white picket fence and a sports car in the garage?

The American dream hasn't changed at all - It's still the same.

The guy next to me is from Columbia. He works for UPS. He's thrilled to death to be here in the US and can't believe he owns a house with a pool. The guy across the street from him is a landscaper - he has one employee and parks his landscaping truck next to his brand new Corvette. The guy behind me - I kid you not - is building a freaking airplane in his garage.

The American dream is alive and well. You just have to earn it.

To hear you say that ... makes me love you baby!

[Penny24Seven]

kinda like drug dealers, one goes to jail and two take his place. Johnnyclips is banned and someone has to step in

[Minte]

That's strange. I coulda sworn that we've had all these govt. programs to redistribute wealth in place for the last 50 years. And the majority of Presidents in the last 50 years have been Democrats.
And the Congress was RULED by Democrats with only a couple of times of Republicans having any power over the last 50 years.

So you're saying that all those decades of Democrats in control and govt. getting bigger and bigger and taking over all aspects of our lives has led to the situation getting WORSE???

Thanks for finally admitting that GrantMercury! I knew that one day you'd open your eyes and admit the truth.

It's clear that after 50 years of *social reform* that the majority of those receiving the handouts simply waste it and then bitch loud enough to get another free handout..which they will again waste.

[Robbie]

It's clear that after 50 years of *social reform* that the majority of those receiving the handouts simply waste it and then bitch loud enough to get another free handout..which they will again waste.

I can only say that the "War On Poverty" started by President Johnson in 1964 has cost trillions of dollars and now there are more people in poverty than before it started.

In any place other than Bizarro World Washington D.C. that would be seen as a failed policy.

But with those greedy fucks it's seen as an opportunity to continue lining their own pockets.

And of course GrantMercury can not see that. Which is why he is failing so hard in life.

[Joshua G]

the most amazing thing of all is that...if a couple hundred retard dems in boca raton or wherever, could figure out how to punch a ballot...alGore is POTUS!

& 911 would never have happened, & the housing market would never have crashed despite being a bubble during the clinton years, & the prescription drug plan would never have passed, adding to the debt, & his wife tipper would never want to censor music again, like she did in the 80s.

maybe if dems like hillary & kerry had balls & stood up against the war instead of supporting it because of public opinion polls, maybe we never invade iraq eh?

ah whatever.

[The Porn Nerd]

I agree 100% with the OP.

Don't be such jingoistic American assholes people, please.

I LIVE in NYC, I was THERE on 9/11 and in the immediate horror for days afterwards so PLEASE please please stop defending Bush, Irag, anti-terrorism BS, Wall Street, Republicanism and all the rest.

Democrats? FUCK THEM TOO. They "allowed" the Republicans to do all this damage, were happy as fuck to join right in, and here we are: a shittier country, a shittier economy, everyone struggling, little hope for a decent future and nothing but SHIT as far as the eye can see for decades to come. Music sucks, movies suck, tv sucks, EVERYTHING SUCKS - while the rich get richer and DO NOT GIVE A FUCK.

Yeah, good times. So picking one side over the other is insanity and does EXACTLY what the 1% want from us: bickering. But if you don't have your head up your ass then there's no denying Bush stole the Presidency, 9/11 did NOT happen the way the Government said it did, the Iraq War was a lie meant to benefit corporations and.....oh never mind.

They've won already and all the good people in this thread bickering over Bush proves it.

Carry on.