Veterans Defending Occupy Phoenix With AR 15s

[stocktrader23]

Claimed to be armed and ready to defend against unlawful actions.

[baddog]

This could get interesting.

[porno jew]

i hope it escalates. things need to be shaken up.

of course those who imagine themselves to be donald trump like little kids playing astronaut will be against it, but it is what it is.

[Rochard]

I love it when he said he's going to protect us from all enemies, foreign and domestic? He's armed and at a protest in Phoenix - He better be very specific about the term "domestic enemies".

[cykoe6]

It is pretty interesting because I remember when someone at a Tea Party had an AR-15, the media and the left were all screaming in unison about "right wing violence" I am sure that they same standard will now apply to the radical left.

[cykoe6]

i hope it escalates. things need to be shaken up.

of course those who imagine themselves to be donald trump like little kids playing astronaut will be against it, but it is what it is.

Yea those of us who do not support armed violence and blood in the streets are "like little kids". The real grown ups support armed revolution and civil war....... who could disagree with that?

[L-Pink]

I hope everyone realizes all it takes is some asshole not affiliated with the protesters or law enforcement to start a real shit storm.

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[porno jew]

It is pretty interesting because I remember when someone at a Tea Party had an AR-15, the media and the left were all screaming in unison about "right wing violence" I am sure that they same standard will now apply to the radical left.

could be because the tea party was generally despised as an obvious astro turf fake populist movement, by both the media and general population? people simply did not trust and like them, so yeah, criticisms are going to be harsher.

i think everyone in america knows that corporate power and control has got to an obscene level and it's wrong.

of course the infantile lickspittles who imagine themselves to masters of the universe don't get that.

[porno jew]

Yea those of us who do not support armed violence and blood in the streets are "like little kids". The real grown ups support armed revolution and civil war....... who could disagree with that?

the only violence is coming from the state my friend.

[Caligari]

I hope everyone realizes all it takes is some asshole not affiliated with the protesters or law enforcement to start a real shit storm.

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Shit storm already started by the cops in Oakland, this is the first of what will be several responses around the country.

No more attacks, no more intimidation from the goon squads.

Not only that, good tie in the guy makes about his border patrol outfit and the gun sales fiasco across the border

on edit- as incredible as it may seem i think we are seeing a street level merger of left and right wing.

[IllTestYourGirls]

The domestic terrorists are not in Phoenix.

[IllTestYourGirls]

on edit- as incredible as it may seem i think we are seeing a street level merger of left and right wing.

We are, and lets hope the left finally realizes it was BIG GOVERNMENT that allowed the bailouts. If the government was small THIS NEVER COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

[cykoe6]

could be because the tea party was generally despised as an obvious astro turf fake populist movement, by both the media and general population? people simply did not trust and like them, so yeah, criticisms are going to be harsher.

Yea yea yea..... left wing pretests are legitimate populism and right wing protests are all astroturf propaganda....... obviously. Of course there is no double standard. You have been manipulated by the same elites that you claim to despise....... but you see and understand nothing. And then you say that people who disagree with you are the children.

You are being manipulated to hate imaginary "class enemies" and ignoring the real enemies. You are the definition of a "useful idiot".

[cykoe6]

We are, and lets hope the left finally realizes it was BIG GOVERNMENT that allowed the bailouts. If the government was small THIS NEVER COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

If that were the case then I would be the first to sign up....... but it will not happen.

[L-Pink]

Shit storm already started by the cops in Oakland,

No. I'm not talking about rubber bullets ..... The shit storm I'm talking about is when well armed, I repeat well armed protesters and well armed police forces are suddenly thrown against each other when some asshole or group of assholes decides to make something happen.

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[porno jew]

which is shit, as merging of the right and left always means somehow for everyone taking on the positions of the right. fuck that.

ows is the youth and the future, the tea party is the past.

let the dead bury the dead.

Shit storm already started by the cops in Oakland, this is the first of what will be several responses around the country.

No more attacks, no more intimidation from the goon squads.

Not only that, good tie in the guy makes about his border patrol outfit and the gun sales fiasco across the border

on edit- as incredible as it may seem i think we are seeing a street level merger of left and right wing.

[Caligari]

We are, and lets hope the left finally realizes it was BIG GOVERNMENT that allowed the bailouts. If the government was small THIS NEVER COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming weeks, and as long as common sense prevails i would like to see both sides come together in a real consensus...without politics.

don't know if that is possible but the effort has to be made.

[Caligari]

which is shit, as merging of the right and left always means somehow for everyone taking on the positions of the right. fuck that.

ows is the youth and the future, the tea party is the past.

let the dead bury the dead.

i think politics and the way washington co-ops the left and right is the problem.
if we can get beyond that something equitable could be worked out.

[TheDoc]

We are, and lets hope the left finally realizes it was BIG GOVERNMENT that allowed the bailouts. If the government was small THIS NEVER COULD HAVE HAPPENED.

Then go out and protest big gov. Join the other people protesting big gov, get more people to join you.... it's not like big gov happened first, then all this other shit went crazy - it happened together, and together is the only way we can correct it.

[stocktrader23]

Shit storm already started by the cops in Oakland, this is the first of what will be several responses around the country.

No more attacks, no more intimidation from the goon squads.

Not only that, good tie in the guy makes about his border patrol outfit and the gun sales fiasco across the border

on edit- as incredible as it may seem i think we are seeing a street level merger of left and right wing.

The dumbass mayor already backed off (after congratulating the cops last night) and said she welcomes the protesters and is personally overseeing that the bad cops are investigated.

[Caligari]

No. I'm not talking about rubber bullets ..... The shit storm I'm talking about is when well armed, I repeat well armed protesters and well armed police forces are suddenly thrown against each other when some asshole or group of assholes decides to make something happen.
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just saying the incident in which the marine protester was critically injured was the first volley, but as you say it would be easy enough for some douchebag to cause all hell to break loose in a situation like this one.

regardless its already set in motion...

[stocktrader23]

If that were the case then I would be the first to sign up....... but it will not happen.

I've never been against smaller government. What I am against is the moronic conservatives that want smaller government when it comes to fucking over poor people here while rah rahing a trillion dollar war and grab ass private contracts to their little buddies. Oh, and that little thing about wanting to legislate morality really pisses me off as well.

[Caligari]

The dumbass mayor already backed off (after congratulating the cops last night) and said she welcomes the protesters and is personally overseeing that the bad cops are investigated.

Yes, and even though it sucks someone had to be nearly killed it is great to see how fast the local govt buckled. i mean, that was freaking fast and i am sure they were sweating bullets about the potential fallout.

[Rochard]

I hope everyone realizes all it takes is some asshole not affiliated with the protesters or law enforcement to start a real shit storm.

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But he is there affiliated with the protesters. He's a protestor. Clearly he's never made over one million dollars in his life time, so he's obviously part of the 99%.

This man clearly isn't too smart. All he needs is some kind of incident similar to what took place in Oakland, and suddenly he's going to be a lone gunman armed with an assault rifle shooting at police.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

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[Phoenix]

But he is there affiliated with the protesters. He's a protestor. Clearly he's never made over one million dollars in his life time, so he's obviously part of the 99%.

This man clearly isn't too smart. All he needs is some kind of incident similar to what took place in Oakland, and suddenly he's going to be a lone gunman armed with an assault rifle shooting at police.

ah

i see...you thnk 1 million makes you a 1%
try 1 billion

they are out to own you like a slave

[stocktrader23]

Yes, and even though it sucks someone had to be nearly killed it is great to see how fast the local govt buckled. i mean, that was freaking fast and i am sure they were sweating bullets about the potential fallout.

http://www.baycitizen.org/occupy-mov...es-occupy-ban/

akland Mayor Jean Quan, under attack from inside and outside her administration, announced late Wednesday that Occupy Oakland can return to the plaza in front of City Hall, an abrupt reversal that followed a night of street violence Tuesday and widespread criticism over her handling of the crisis.

As more than 1,000 people descended on Frank H. Ogawa Plaza Wednesday night, Quan called for "a minimum police presence" and said nonviolent protesters would be allowed to re-occupy the area near City Hall. One day earlier, with Quan's authorization, 400 police officers had dismantled the tent city.

Epic turnaround. Now they voted for a General Strike at their assembly, let's see how that goes over.

[stocktrader23]

ah

i see...you thnk 1 million makes you a 1%
try 1 billion

they are out to own you like a slave

It's because of the "We are the 99%" slogan. It should have been "We are the 99.9%" but that doesn't sound as nice.

[TheDoc]

But he is there affiliated with the protesters. He's a protestor. Clearly he's never made over one million dollars in his life time, so he's obviously part of the 99%.

This man clearly isn't too smart. All he needs is some kind of incident similar to what took place in Oakland, and suddenly he's going to be a lone gunman armed with an assault rifle shooting at police.

.... millionaires are part of the 99%, everyone on this forum is part of the 99%.

You are not in control of anything, you do not benefit from big gov policies, you are not part of the group that benefits from regulations, you do not print money nor get that money directly sent to you, you do not bailout banks or get bailed your yourself - with our tax dollars, you do not call meetings of the fed at your will, you do not get billions after fucking up then pay yourself a bonus, and laugh about it.... we get busted for being out to late in a protest, they get away with committing the largest fraud in American history.

You do however, have to pay for it all... and your kids will pay for it, if they have any money left to pay for it with.

You are the 99%, we all are.

[baddog]

ah

i see...you thnk 1 million makes you a 1%
try 1 billion

they are out to own you like a slave

I was reading something earlier today that suggested the 1% cutoff is around $387,000/year.

[huey]

My favourite American quote.

"The armed are citizens, the unarmed are subjects"

NRA nuts seem pretty sane now.

[huey]

I could see another Kent state episode in the near future.

[VikingMan]

LOL, I know their playbook like the back of my hand. So funny seeing how the lab rats are manipulated. Just proves that the elites are absolutely justified in their end goals. Most of the 99% are willfully ignorant and are not willing to see reality because if they do they will have to admit they have been living a lie their entire lives. Remember how you guys laugh when surfers think that Bang Bus is real? Well some of us laugh the same way when the rest of you believe what is served up to you via Fox News, CNN, and Obama's teleprompter. We are racing towards a totalitarian state while the average castrated turd is gossiping about Lindsay Lohan, standing in line for the next trendy tech gadget, and complaining that their Big Mac does not have enough mayo.

My advice is to not resist at all. Do not join any groups or get political. Distance yourself from any friends or family who want to get revolutionary because they will only atract negativity in your life. Cooperate 100% with law enforcement and do whatever you can to help them regardless if they are federal, state, or local. Avoid crowded areas where the sheep congregate such as sporting events, shopping malls, places of worship, public transportation, etc. Adapt to whatever economic and political system that will be offered to "save us". In the mean time you might want to get a small gauge shotgun and a few boxes of 00 buckshot from Wallyworld. A 20 gauge shotgun can be handled by just about anyone and is a great home defense weapon. Crime is going to soar in the not too distant future.

[TheDoc]

I was reading something earlier today that suggested the 1% cutoff is around $387,000/year.

If you use the tax bracket... it's something like that.

But the 99% / 1% isn't about tax brackets, it's about wealth/power/control.

A person making 400k a year, has none of that. A person with billions that took billions in bonuses with our tax dollars and the politicians they pay off to allow that bullshit to happen, are part of the 1%...part of the problem if you would.

That's a level of power/control and wealth, none of us here have.

[Rochard]

ah

i see...you thnk 1 million makes you a 1%
try 1 billion

they are out to own you like a slave

Really? Not according to CNN.




http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/20/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_income/index.htm


This might be a huge part of the problem. Everyone seems to think that to be in the top 1% you need to be making millions and millions of dollars. You don't. Seems that the $300k range gets you access into the 1% group.

[cykoe6]

"The armed are citizens, the unarmed are subjects"

NRA nuts seem pretty sane now.

Now you tell us.

[DWB]

I love it when he said he's going to protect us from all enemies, foreign and domestic?

That's the oath they take, is it not?

[Sly]

Really? Not according to CNN.




http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/20/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_income/index.htm


This might be a huge part of the problem. Everyone seems to think that to be in the top 1% you need to be making millions and millions of dollars. You don't. Seems that the $300k range gets you access into the 1% group.

Nobody seems to have a definition of what this mystical 1% group is.

Some say it's money. Others say it's power. Others say it's magical beings with voodoo powers.

The common denominator is, it's: them. "Them" being whoever makes sense at the time.

This mystical 1% group did not even have a name before a month or two ago. Now everyone is rallying behind the "1%!"

Pick a target. Slaughter. You can't slay a beast that you can't find.

[cykoe6]

You are not in control of anything, you do not benefit from big gov policies, you are not part of the group that benefits from regulations, you do not print money nor get that money directly sent to you, you do not bailout banks or get bailed your yourself - with our tax dollars, you do not call meetings of the fed at your will, you do not get billions after fucking up then pay yourself a bonus, and laugh about it.... we get busted for being out to late in a protest, they get away with committing the largest fraud in American history.

You do however, have to pay for it all... and your kids will pay for it, if they have any money left to pay for it with.

You are the 99%, we all are.

Now you are opposed to big government??? Weren't you and your friends calling for more government spending "stimulus" and more regulations just a few days ago???

[TheDoc]

Really? Not according to CNN.




http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/20/news/economy/occupy_wall_street_income/index.htm


This might be a huge part of the problem. Everyone seems to think that to be in the top 1% you need to be making millions and millions of dollars. You don't. Seems that the $300k range gets you access into the 1% group.

Those are tax brackets... that's not what the 99/1 is.



This is what the part of the real 1% look like: "The 400 highest-earning U.S. households reported an average of $345 million in income in 2007"

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=ahZu17Yy1HvA

That's 345 million in INCOME in a year.

[TheSquealer]

Claimed to be armed and ready to defend against unlawful actions.

ter·ror·ism   [ter-uh-riz-uhm]
noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

[TheDoc]

Now you are opposed to big government??? Weren't you and your friends calling for more government spending "stimulus" and more regulations just a few days ago???

I've never supported big gov.

The gov has always spent money, it's always stimulated in various ways, even when the gov was small.

It depends on the regulation, do I support Corps not being able to dump chemicals into the water? Of course.... do I support a reg that says I can't shoot the fucking woodpecker that pecks on my house? Fuck no...

[cykoe6]

Nobody seems to have a definition of what this mystical 1% group is.

Some say it's money. Others say it's power. Others say it's magical beings with voodoo powers.

The common denominator is, it's: them. "Them" being whoever makes sense at the time.

This mystical 1% group did not even have a name before a month or two ago. Now everyone is rallying behind the "1%!"

Pick a target. Slaughter. You can't slay a beast that you can't find.

The Marxists need to create a class enemy to motivate the masses towards armed revolution. It is their standard ploy...... and it is very appealing to uneducated useful idiots who blame their failures on imaginary enemies. The Jews are usually a convenient target...... as seems to be the case again this time. History never stops repeating itself it seems.

[cykoe6]

The gov has always spent money, it's always stimulated in various ways, even when the gov was small.

The government giving taxpayer money to its favored constituents is the entire crux of the whole problem. You either understand that or you don't. Most of the OWS mutts just want the government handouts to come in their direction. If you are opposed to big government you want to to stop entirely. There is a huge difference.

[TheDoc]

Nobody seems to have a definition of what this mystical 1% group is.

Some say it's money. Others say it's power. Others say it's magical beings with voodoo powers.

The common denominator is, it's: them. "Them" being whoever makes sense at the time.

This mystical 1% group did not even have a name before a month or two ago. Now everyone is rallying behind the "1%!"

Pick a target. Slaughter. You can't slay a beast that you can't find.

Our Country was formed because of same elite powers that have taken over again.

Is it really hard to think of who/what the mystical 1% is when every founding father spoke of them and of it happening again?

[stocktrader23]

Nobody seems to have a definition of what this mystical 1% group is.

Some say it's money. Others say it's power. Others say it's magical beings with voodoo powers.

The common denominator is, it's: them. "Them" being whoever makes sense at the time.

This mystical 1% group did not even have a name before a month or two ago. Now everyone is rallying behind the "1%!"

Pick a target. Slaughter. You can't slay a beast that you can't find.

You are so much smarter than this.

[directfiesta]

.... millionaires are part of the 99%, everyone on this forum is part of the 99%.

NOOOOOOO ..... 12clicks is part of the 1% ...

He said so yesterday .... We all know that he makes money out of his ass ......

[TheDoc]

The government giving taxpayer money to its favored constituents is the entire crux of the whole problem. You either understand that or you don't. Most of the OWS mutts just want the government handouts to come in their direction. If you are opposed to big government you want to to stop entirely. There is a huge difference.

That issue is due to the gov being too big in general... if it wasn't so big, it would simply go out to the proper people.

I'm sure some at OWS want that, the majority though want all bailouts and too big to fail, bullshit to stop... so while the little guy is getting his teeth kicked in, they're getting bailouts and living the life - on our tax dime. Only a fool wouldn't a little pissed about that.

Small gov does not mean no gov...

[Fletch XXX]

too many people who claimed to be military sit back and do nothing - about time real soldiers stand up with americans, their entire oath is horseshit unless they do stuff like this. for or against the cause, our military should be protecting protestors not shooting tear gas at them.

IT IS OUR RIGHT TO GATHER AND ASSEMBLE hate it all ya want, but the bill of rights protects us from DOMESTIC ENEMIES too

[stocktrader23]

too many people who claimed to be military sit back and do nothing - about time real soldiers stand up with americans, their entire oath is horseshit unless they do stuff like this. for or against the cause, our military should be protecting protestors not shooting tear gas at them.

IT IS OUR RIGHT TO GATHER AND ASSEMBLE hate it all ya want, but the bill of rights protects us from DOMESTIC ENEMIES too

Here here, have a beer.