Copyfight: EFF co-founder enters e-G8 "lion's den," rips into lions

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  • gideongallery
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2003
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    #1

    Copyfight: EFF co-founder enters e-G8 "lion's den," rips into lions

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/n...into-lions.ars

    John Perry Barlow?EFF co-founder, Grateful Dead lyricist, and, improbably, now a rancher?arrived in Paris and began tweeting up a storm from the e-G8 summit gathered there this week to discuss the future of the Internet.

    “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak
  • iamtam
    So Fucking Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 1211

    #2
    the freetards are quickly finding that their internet island is shrinking.

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    • gideongallery
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      • Aug 2003
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      #3
      Originally posted by iamtam
      the freetards are quickly finding that their internet island is shrinking.
      you might want to actually read the article before commenting on it

      he accepted the invitation to a pro copyright love fest and successfully defended the free speech position.

      I may be one of very few people in this room who actually makes his living personally by creating what these gentlemen are pleased to call "intellectual property." I don't regard my expression as a form of property. Property is something that can be taken from me. If I don't have it, somebody else does.

      Expression is not like that. The notion that expression is like that is entirely a consequence of taking a system of expression and transporting it around, which was necessary before there was the Internet, which has the capacity to do this infinitely at almost no cost.
      In Barlow's view, the e-G8 has been about "imposing the standards of some business practices and institutional power centers that come from another era on the future, whether they are actually productive of new ideas or not."

      He added that he was more interested in talking about "incentivizing creativity by people who create things, and not large institutions who prey on them and have for years."

      “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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      • u-Bob
        there's no $$$ in porn
        • Jul 2005
        • 33063

        #4
        This isn't about pro or con copyright, it's about censorship, about free speech.

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        • gideongallery
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          • Aug 2003
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          #5
          Originally posted by u-Bob
          This isn't about pro or con copyright, it's about censorship, about free speech.
          not exactly it about how copyright and the new rules that copyright holders are attempting to apply to the internet censoring free speech.

          remember this was one guy defending free speech at a COPYRIGHT panel at e-g8

          “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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          • Babaganoosh
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            • Nov 2001
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            #6
            Why do you morons keep feeding one of the most successful trolls on GFY? Really, shut up and this retard will just disappear.
            I like pie.

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            • merina0803
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              • May 2008
              • 573

              #7
              CP is always a crime but fair use is never CP

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              • iamtam
                So Fucking Banned
                • Feb 2010
                • 1211

                #8
                Originally posted by gideongallery
                you might want to actually read the article before commenting on it

                he accepted the invitation to a pro copyright love fest and successfully defended the free speech position.
                pay attention. eff is always on the side of the freetards. by definition copyright is against free speech because it grants rights that limit use. eff is not your friend if you produce content.

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                • gideongallery
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                  • Aug 2003
                  • 7082

                  #9
                  Originally posted by iamtam
                  pay attention. eff is always on the side of the freetards. by definition copyright is against free speech because it grants rights that limit use. eff is not your friend if you produce content.
                  actually it not
                  copyright without FAIR USE is against free speech

                  fair use applied properly protects free speech perfectly it only when copyright holders try and redefine it to make it fair that free speech get threatened.

                  if your content is such crap that it can't survive if fair use is respected then your not a content producer your a crap producer.

                  “When crimes occur through the mail, you don’t shut the post office down,” Steve Wozniak

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                  • tony286
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                    • Aug 2002
                    • 57021

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Babaganoosh
                    Why do you morons keep feeding one of the most successful trolls on GFY? Really, shut up and this retard will just disappear.
                    You have a good point.

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