TSA confiscated Gerber tool and nail clippers from solider carrying weapons.
 

No shit.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/1...r-tsa-outrage/

I feel much safer now and I hope Sally does too.

:( :(

insanity is the rule of course these days

I've always been afraid of being clipped to death.

Someone needs to go in there with a 3 foot long salami down their pants and get frisked and video tape it.

after 9/11 i flew to new york city...i wore my leather jacket the way there and way back

without knowing it..i had my pocket knife inside the leather pockets

i went through detector and got wanded....not a single beep

My brother did the same thing with his hunting knife.

Though we shouldn't be admitting things like this... they'll bump security up even more.

this is simply way beyond insanity - i wonder how anyone can justify this
:Oh crap :eek7

obama's people just justified all this before congress this week.

kinda makes you miss Bush, eh?:winkwink:

i just wanted to comment on this again.

so this is a flight full of heroes for the usa...people who had just risked their lives to defend the very freedom that those tsa agents take for granted living at home.

these heroes are subjected to the same ill thought out treatment as everyone else and it pisses them off. I suspect its only a matter of time until some big time politician goes incognito to get felt up and makes a big deal about this. These sort of unifying moments in time are always good for the politician who takes advantage of it.

i hear one airport jut kicked the tsa idiots out...i wodner who will replace them.


one more thing, im sorry if this offends anyone, but each and every person should be checked. there are levels of checking that should apply though.

regular traveller? doesnt need to be checked much, there is mountains of data on us already. confirm who they are and let them go.

new travellers should be checked top to bottom.

people who paid cash...top to bottom

muslims...sorry but if we can molest heroes on the way home, muslims can be frisked as well.

christians....anyone declaring allegiance to any invisible being should be checked :)

/rant

it kind of makes me miss common sense in general :winkwink:


for example:

i am not allowed to bring my own water on a plane cause it's potentially an explosive but then i have to dump it in a regular trash bin instead of having it evacuated by a bomb squad :upsidedow

and so on...

Security from the private sector. They'll still have to abide by TSA regulations, but the thought behind the move is that TSA agents have become too aggressive in their job, and private sector security would be able to be held more accountable than the TSA agents.

A congressman wrote his local airports to request they ditch TSA agents and use private sector.

Link to article:

Airports consider congressman's call to ditch TSA

btw - am i disappointed with Obama? yes, like many others too.

but i am even more disappointed by those who do everything to make him look bad and try their best to keep him from getting anything done and in this process do more harm to the US than Obama could have ever done on his own.

:2 cents:

what do you think obama wanted to do that was good that was stopped by others?

I'm seriously interested.

That's interesting. I suppose even a pencil can be pushed into someone's eye to kill.
A lot of things can be used as a weapon.

last thing that made me shake my head for example was START 2 - negotiated, agreed, only needs ratification which will now not happen anymore. but i guess foreign politics are not interesting anyways

I can kill a man with my bare hands... hope they don't confiscate them!

if you guys keep complaining about the TSA, the govt is going to have to allow another terrorist attack to show you how much you need their protection.... :2 cents:




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Give me a fucking break. For every freedom you let go in the name of "homeland security", you put one more nail in the coffin we are building that will soon house the US Constitution when they bury it.

Yes, like your hands, for example. Especially if you're a trained soldier who is just returning from war in Afghanistan.

Maybe we should just put everyone into a strait jacket as they board a plane.

LOL. In the article the TSA agent claimed that the soldier could not take over the plane with his gun because he had no bullets. That's pretty funny. One quick smack with the gun, game over. Multiply that by over 100 soldiers on the plane... in which at least one of them probably has flying experience of some sort... kaboom.

Those darn clippers.

I have no problem with not rushing through a vote on this and considering the people who want to delay the vote have VASTLY more experience in the subject than obama does, I see no need to rush anything.
obama's shrill reply doesn't instill much confidence either:

"This is not a matter that can be delayed," Obama said. "Every month that goes by without a treaty means that we are not able to verify what's going on on the ground in Russia. And if we delay indefinitely, American leadership on nonproliferation and America's national security will be weakened."


but thats it? one thing?
surely there are more things doing the US harm by not giving obama his way

i guess you are unfamiliar with the term "sarcasm"...

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Don't be so stupid. It's because the current START treaty expires on December 5th, at which time all current US inspectors get booted from Russia. The US currently knows the extent of Russia's arsenal, but unless this treaty is signed, they won't after Dec 5th. For example:

Ironic part being, if Bush was currently in power, you'd probably believe this is an extremely important issue. Nonetheless, it's currently Nov 19th, and the treaty expires on Dec 5th, so I'd say it's pretty important, wouldn't you?

If Obama backs it, it is automatically not good .. :2 cents:

Screw the gerber tool, the nail clippers and the gun. The fact that there are 200+ soldiers on the plane is 200+ more than that would be needed to take over the plane.

Incompetence at its best.

Come now, silly child. We'll boot their inspectors too.
And big deal if they deploy their new little missiles.
The current treaty pushed by Obama may jeaprodize our missile defense system. (a far bigger issue than the entire agreement)
Get back to me when you get a clue.

There's a Reagan way of diplomacy and a Carter way.

If true, that is some fucked up shit.

One thing I did find funny about that post is that all of the commenters forgot who started TSA and the no nail clipper rule. They blame it on Obama, but without Bush there wouldn't even had been a TSA (or DHS).

Probably the same people that bitch about wasteful spending while forgetting a Republican President, with the help of the Republican Congress, started the second largest government organization.

TSA was created with a two-year original intention. The airports can opt out. They simply didn't. One of those things where once something is set up, it doesn't get taken away.

I don't see this as Obama's fault, I do see it as the fault of a government branch being able to make laws/policies with no accountability to the people.

Not true, but nice twist.

I hate to have to quote this for the truth but you have no idea how right you are.

Hahahahaha

What a cluster fuck. This needs to be put in check NOW or heaven help us all.

This is part of the plan. They are pumping the USA economy full of useless bills to play against china since countries have wised up that the dollar is useless.

They are going to thin out the american economy just enough to that the people have to beg the government to take control.

This will be a slow dwindling process. The troops will come home just before they launch a new currency or new version of a currency (5-10 years).

The troops will then be used as civilian police force as things are put back in place.

The scanners are a small test to see how much they can slow and restrict peoples flying and or transportation.

Whoever "they" are ie top government officials realized long ago you cant force a country like America into massive change. Instead you pervert its people with war and media. Then you use those same tactics against them on a home grown level.

As people become perverted to war and violence they are more likely for it to be allowed to be used on them.

I've posted this before ut I'll tel the story again.

Wife and I are flying from London to LAX, travelling biz class... We get 'bumped up' to 1st Class... Lovely !

We go through a special 1st class security gate. Wife has 'tiny' set of nail clippers taken off her, as hey are a 'weapon'...

We dont make a fuss, and are soon sat in 1st class seats. Stewardess appears, and instantly hands us both a complementary glass of champagne... IN CUT CRYSTAL LONG STEMMED GLASSES!

My 1st thought was that if I had wanted to cause trouble on that flight, it would have been pretty difficult with a pair of ail clippers... But now all I need to do, is to break the glasses and shove the stem through her neck...

Great 'security'...

If you haven't learned by now, ONLY bring what is extremely necessary on the plane. you can buy nail clippers and whatever else once you get through security.

Regardless of if you think it is ok to bring or not, TSA has the final answer. As much as I think they are knuckle dragging morons, they have the power over everyone. Don't argue, just throw out your $1 nail clippers or your $1.59 bottle of water, is it really worth missing a flight over?

Remember, TSA agents are people to, and most dont like their job so be nice to them, ask them how their day is going, etc, and it will go a LONG way promise me.

I fly 2x or so a month from east to west coast and have yet to ever been stopped or questioned. While, I'll see morons arguing over something stupid, like a bottle of conditioner and be detained and miss their flight.

Fact is terrorist won, they made our lives now an inconvenience for what was an enjoyable experience :2 cents:

I shouldn't but I'll bite. Why do you think this absurd situation would cause me happiness?

what are they gonna do with nail clippers that they couldn't do with the butt of their rifles? :1orglaugh

The best part:
Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

ahahahah

It's times like this I wish they'd lob some missiles over here for testing purposes so you could see that the missile defense system is just another useless program designed to make a handful of people rich. It's not worth two shits and only scared, white, middle class morons are scared of such shadows.

Ohhh, so best to let the treaty expire, and open up the opportunity for another cold war. Especially when the Russian economy is doing quite well, and US economy continually fades down the shitter. Brilliant idea! You should run for world chancellor.

The missile defense system isn't going to make anything more secure, and especially not the US when you're sticking the missile batteries in Poland.

I'd say the US nuclear arsenal that's on submarines, which are floating around 24x7 is about all the defense you need. Besides, when was the last time someone shot a missile at the US? Oh right... never! Everyone in the world knows the US has the capability of turning any region of the world into a sheet of glass within about 30 minutes, so I highly doubt anyone is going to be firing missiles your way.

It makes perfect sense, it hurt like hell if you clip your roots with one of those nail clippers, especially if it's one of the big ones :Oh crap

fuck the TSA.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Some people actually have their hands registered as a weapon. :pimp

no they do not...

not everything you saw on tv in mexico when you were a kid is true...




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I think I saw the origins of this and it was some dojo somewhere giving all their blackbelts certification. :1orglaugh

What a fucked up country you US guys live in ... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

TSA forces cancer survivor to show prosthetic breast

.. and what did you prevent ? an exploding tit ?

if you think either side tells the other side where all their weapons are i have a bridge in NY i would like to sell you.

START is nothing more then some bullshit to make people feel all warm and cozy.

Don't military people carry knives as well as guns?