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loreen 11-17-2010 03:25 PM

Nutrition professor drops two stone on snack food diet
 
It sounds like a dieters fantasy - lose weight by eating junk food and sweets - but in the case of university professor Mark Haub, it really worked.

Dr Haub, who teaches human nutrition at Kansas State University, lost 27 pounds in two months on a diet of chocolate bars, chips, biscuits, pizza, doughnuts and sugary cereals. He occasionally ate some low-calorie vegetables.

At the start of his snack food diet Dr Haub said: ?It?s portion controlled. I?m eating foods that are deemed by many to be unhealthy; we will see if they are."

He restricted his diet to 1800 calories per day, compared to the 2600 an average man consumes.

Dr Haub wanted to show that the calorie content of food mattered most, rather than its nutritional value, when trying to lose weight.

Despite his diet of sugary, salty and fatty processed food, his health indicators actually improved. His LDL-cholesterol, which is linked to a greater risk of heart disease, fell 20 per cent, while his 'good' HDL-cholesterol rose by 20 per cent. Dr Haub's body fat also fell from 33.4 to 24.9 per cent.

(source)

Guess being fat is more dangerous than eating candy being slim... :)

fatfoo 11-17-2010 03:28 PM

It is possible to lose fat by reducing calories. You could eat ice cream, chocolate and other sweets. Dieting requires will power to eat less.

dyna mo 11-17-2010 03:32 PM

nice to see some people proving carbs aren't bad, in spite of all the marketing we are bombarded with claiming otherwise.

a calorie is simply a measurement of energy

more energy out than in = weight loss.

PornMD 11-17-2010 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by loreen (Post 17707123)
Dr Haub, who teaches human nutrition at Kansas State University*snip*

Dr Haub's body fat also fell from 33.4 to 24.9 per cent.

1. It's easier for an obese person to lose weight if they eat less...not so much a slightly overweight person. Basically a difference between "eat less to lose weight" and "don't eat so fucking much to lose weight".

2. So this fat ass was teaching nutrition? Does he have a fat ass cousin who can be my personal trainer? :helpme

*Note: I'm a fat ass, though used to be 280, lost 75 lbs, gained 40 back and have lost 10 back and going down...most importantly I've dropped from 35+% bodyfat to about 22% and dropping. I too can vouch that you can eat shitty food and lose weight...exercise is really 90% of the battle.

pornguy 11-17-2010 03:38 PM

The change in the HDL and LDL is most likely from eating the chocolate.

Varius 11-17-2010 03:43 PM

He actually had to do a study to prove this? Of course, if you eat less than you burn, you lose weight. Period.

IMO all that sugar is going to catch up to him if he did it for any extended period of time, though and cause health problems. His health indicators improved short-term, likely from the weight loss mostly, but long-term I don't think someone living off sugar will survive.

dyna mo 11-17-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 17707169)
The change in the HDL and LDL is most likely from eating the chocolate.

that occurred to me as well, but it might be more a result of the ratio changing due to his lowered weight/less fat. if he was eating healthy foods prior, just more calories.

could be wrong, just food for thought. yuk yuk

dyna mo 11-17-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17707184)
He actually had to do a study to prove this? Of course, if you eat less than you burn, you lose weight. Period.

IMO all that sugar is going to catch up to him if he did it for any extended period of time, though and cause health problems. His health indicators improved short-term, likely from the weight loss mostly, but long-term I don't think someone living off sugar will survive.

fact.

the diet he did is called the christian diet/ the twinkie diet. some important things to consider::


Unlike most individuals who would live on twinkies and junk food, Mark started off with a very good health history and diet. The healthy basis gave him a proper foundation, allowing him to veer off his healthy lifestyle for a short period of time.
Even though Mark lived on junk food, he tried to remain active, which is an important piece of the equation.
Mark supplemented his ?Twinkie Diet? with vitamins and protein shakes. He also ate vegetables daily.
The story makes no mention of Mark?s overall energy level, which can often be depleted due to a high calorie, low nutrition diet (of the Twinkie Diet variety).
Mark only went on this diet for 10 weeks. The results would surely be different if he continued this diet continuously for months on end, as, unfortunately many people do.

loreen 11-17-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17707184)
His health indicators improved short-term, likely from the weight loss mostly, but long-term I don't think someone living off sugar will survive.

I agree.

MaDalton 11-17-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17707146)
nice to see some people proving carbs aren't bad, in spite of all the marketing we are bombarded with claiming otherwise.

a calorie is simply a measurement of energy

more energy out than in = weight loss.

i'm doing this 6 weeks now - 15 pounds lost. i dont eat much different, just not more than 1950 calories a day. of course there are days i do more - for example when i go out and drink. otherwise i would have lost more by now. but i'm still very satisfied

PS: no exercise at all

loreen 11-17-2010 04:28 PM

Congrats, MaDalton. The key is how you get back to eating more food...
Have you hit any plateaus yet?

MaDalton 11-18-2010 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by loreen (Post 17707326)
Congrats, MaDalton. The key is how you get back to eating more food...
Have you hit any plateaus yet?

i dont even need to eat more - i just reduced calories by eating differently and dropping stuff that has too many empty calories. for example i never knew that rice and pasta has so many calories, now i just ignore them and eat for example chicken breast with vegetables. full stomach, but half of the calories.

the only drawbacks are days when i go out and drink much, but that always just puts me back 2-3 days.

CaptainHowdy 11-18-2010 07:45 AM

Counting calories is for the weak...

BlackCrayon 11-18-2010 07:49 AM

stupid study. since the things he ate are high in calories its obvious he juts ate very little.

ottopottomouse 11-18-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius (Post 17707184)
He actually had to do a study to prove this?

His next study that you can eat 1800 calories a day of lettuce and put weight on might take a bit longer.

PR_Glen 11-18-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17707311)
i'm doing this 6 weeks now - 15 pounds lost. i dont eat much different, just not more than 1950 calories a day. of course there are days i do more - for example when i go out and drink. otherwise i would have lost more by now. but i'm still very satisfied

PS: no exercise at all

all that means is as soon as you start eating normally again, which is inevitable 1950 is far too low for any man, you will bounce back to where you were if not more so. Weight loss can be done a number of different ways... If you want to keep it off for longer start exercising. Even if you started now you would protect yourself from bouncing back.

RazorSharpe 11-18-2010 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 17707146)
nice to see some people proving carbs aren't bad, in spite of all the marketing we are bombarded with claiming otherwise.

a calorie is simply a measurement of energy

more energy out than in = weight loss.

Dyna, have a look at this:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/high...ing-part-1.htm

seeandsee 11-18-2010 08:19 AM

finally some real diet :)

MaDalton 11-18-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 17708871)
all that means is as soon as you start eating normally again, which is inevitable 1950 is far too low for any man, you will bounce back to where you were if not more so. Weight loss can be done a number of different ways... If you want to keep it off for longer start exercising. Even if you started now you would protect yourself from bouncing back.

yes - and no. my daily calorie breakeven is about 2500 - if i go back to eating more than that, i will of course gain weight again. by doing exercise i burn more than 2500, therefore i can also eat more. so if i don't exercise i cannot eat more than 2500 calories a day to maintain my weight at the same level.

and 1950 calories a day is really not bad, on most days i am at 1600-1700 and i am absolutely not hungry at all. and i keep losing weight, never thought it's that easy. just takes some discipline to avoid things like this:

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/galle...500/z00246.jpg

:winkwink: :1orglaugh

Chezter 11-18-2010 08:32 AM

If you eat less = you will not be so fat, oh great now I see why he is a professor :) But if you want to look good it is not all about what and how much you eat, it is much more about working out...

loreen 11-18-2010 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17708951)


Oh, oh, mozzarella sticks! :thumbsup

dyna mo 11-18-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RazorSharpe (Post 17708897)

:thumbsup good read, thx for posting that eh

Screwed Up 11-18-2010 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 17708844)
i dont even need to eat more - i just reduced calories by eating differently and dropping stuff that has too many empty calories. for example i never knew that rice and pasta has so many calories, now i just ignore them and eat for example chicken breast with vegetables. full stomach, but half of the calories.

the only drawbacks are days when i go out and drink much, but that always just puts me back 2-3 days.

Sounds like a low carb diet to me.
I once did the same for one month just chicken/fish/meat with vegetables. I didn't drink though. And I worked out daily too.
I got so skinny (78kg) that people thought that I was ill. After that I had a good foundation to add more muscle with a 20% fat -30% protein - 50% carbs. And I worked my way up to 84kg in 3-4 months.

MaDalton 11-18-2010 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwed Up (Post 17709445)
Sounds like a low carb diet to me.
I once did the same for one month just chicken/fish/meat with vegetables. I didn't drink though. And I worked out daily too.
I got so skinny (78kg) that people thought that I was ill. After that I had a good foundation to add more muscle with a 20% fat -30% protein - 50% carbs. And I worked my way up to 84kg in 3-4 months.

it is a bit low carb, but not very strict. especially not as strict as this keto diet. i'd call it just eating healthy :)

Scott McD 11-18-2010 11:27 AM

For some reason i read the thread title as "Nutty Professor"....

loreen 11-18-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwed Up (Post 17709445)
Sounds like a low carb diet to me.
I once did the same for one month just chicken/fish/meat with vegetables. I didn't drink though. And I worked out daily too.
I got so skinny (78kg) that people thought that I was ill. After that I had a good foundation to add more muscle with a 20% fat -30% protein - 50% carbs. And I worked my way up to 84kg in 3-4 months.

What was your starting weight?

eroticsexxx 11-18-2010 02:14 PM


dyna mo 11-18-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 17709946)

scooby is the man! a lot of good advices on his site and forum.

magicmike 11-18-2010 02:40 PM

Well I didn't read thru this all, but it is calories in vs calories out.

The only difference is if you eat healthier food you can eat more and feel full compared to these empty junk calories.

It worked becuase this guy had self control on the junk.


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