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u-Bob 10-30-2010 07:28 AM

Jade Goody website 'troll' from Manchester jailed for offensive web posts
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-11650593

"According to BBC Online, 'An "internet troll" who posted obscene messages on Facebook sites set up in memory of dead people has been jailed. Colm Coss, of Ardwick, Manchester, posted on a memorial page for Big Brother star Jade Goody and a tribute site to John Paul Massey, a Liverpool boy mauled to death by a dog. The 36-year-old "preyed on bereaved families" for his "own pleasure," Manchester Magistrates Court heard.'"

"Unemployed Coss was only caught when he sent residents on his street photos of himself saying he was an internet 'troll.'"

u-Bob 10-30-2010 07:29 AM

from slashdot: first they came for the trolls,....

IllTestYourGirls 10-30-2010 07:31 AM

Thats fucked up all around.

TeenCat 10-30-2010 07:39 AM

good for her, was saved before someone killed her for fucking with his family ...

Barefootsies 10-30-2010 07:56 AM

Sweet justice.
:2 cents:

ottopottomouse 10-30-2010 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17653918)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-11650593

"According to BBC Online, 'An "internet troll" who posted obscene messages on Facebook sites set up in memory of dead people has been jailed. Colm Coss, of Ardwick, Manchester, posted on a memorial page for Big Brother star Jade Goody and a tribute site to John Paul Massey, a Liverpool boy mauled to death by a dog. The 36-year-old "preyed on bereaved families" for his "own pleasure," Manchester Magistrates Court heard.'"

"Unemployed Coss was only caught when he sent residents on his street photos of himself saying he was an internet 'troll.'"

While I don't particularly agree with what he did a lot of sites set up in memory of dead people have fuck all to do with being in memory of the dead person and everything to do with the weird way a lot of people will jump on a RIP bandwagon like it's belonging to a special club.

Start a thread in any forum saying someone has died and there will be a shit load of RIP posts from people who really don't actually give a shit but aren't brave enough to either say nothing or say 'actually the corpse was an obnoxious cunt and I won't miss them'.

Davy 10-30-2010 10:36 AM

Serves her right. It just shows that the internet is not as lawless and anonymous as people would like it to be.

PornoStar69 10-30-2010 10:37 AM

illuminati killed her

Machete_ 10-30-2010 10:41 AM

on what charges?

Scott McD 10-30-2010 10:42 AM

Why do people keep saying 'her' ???

Scott McD 10-30-2010 10:44 AM

Anyway, like has been said in this thread already, i don't agree with what he did, although i don't see how you can charge someone for that.

People can't wait to make RIP pages on Facebook etc, yet probably don't give 2 fucks.

What does it mean anyway? Do people think they have Facebook and a decent internet connection in heaven? Pisses me off BIG time...

Scott McD 10-30-2010 10:47 AM

And for the record, Jade Goody was a C.U.N.T !!!!


Because she had and then died of cancer didn't make her a better person... :2 cents:

Machete_ 10-30-2010 10:47 AM

Ok so he was charged under the Communications Act 2003, for sending malicious communications that were grossly offensive.

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Jesus fucking christ, Western civilization is over.

DVTimes 10-30-2010 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17654281)
on what charges?

comunications/broadcast act or somthing

from what i gather its old uk laws that were set up for radio/tv/newspapers broadcast that they now have applied to the internet.

its like that chap who 'joked' that he was fed up with how long he was in a airport, and said he would plant a bomb.

for some reason the manager of the airport a few days later read his tweet and got him arrested.

PornoStar69 10-30-2010 12:01 PM

C.U.N.T = Katie Price

Jade Goody was murdered by the ILLUMINATI

Watch Katie Price & Alex Reid videos full of masonic checkered clothes - Alex Reid throws up the devil sign.

Katie Price sold her soul

Freaky_Akula 11-05-2010 08:04 AM

Going to jail for posting something stupid is ridiculous. They could easily send half of GFY to jail if the wanted.

Sly 11-05-2010 08:07 AM

Is causing distress a criminal charge? Just seems more like a civil case, if anything.

Don't get me wrong, guy sounds like a total loser douchebag and his life is probably already punishment enough. But tying up the court/jail system over something like this... just seems pretty silly. Not to mention, "free speech" and all that.

Agent 488 11-05-2010 08:11 AM

free colm cross.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...07234_coss.jpg

DamianJ 11-05-2010 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 17654282)
Why do people keep saying 'her' ???

Because they are really fucking stupid and post their opinions about things without knowing anything about it.

I imagine markham will be here soon saying how brilliant Jade Goody is at stopping piracy.

blackmonsters 11-05-2010 10:20 AM

I believe in free speech, but there is such a thing as harassment.

Speaking one's mind and telling the truth is one thing, but if the sole purpose of
the speech is just to harass then I don't agree with that.

DamianJ 11-05-2010 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17675249)
I believe in free speech, but there is such a thing as harassment.

Speaking one's mind and telling the truth is one thing, but if the sole purpose of
the speech is just to harass then I don't agree with that.

Well you don't agree with freedom of speech then.

There is no grey area. You can't be in favour of freedom of speech as long as they say things you like.

Yes, that means you have to allow racists and homophobes the right to speak about that as they wish.

Otherwise, there is no freedom of speech, is there?

ottopottomouse 11-05-2010 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17675158)
I imagine markham will be here soon saying how brilliant Jade Goody is at stopping piracy.

You can't download a Jade Goody



Thank god :disgust

cordoba 11-05-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17654290)
Ok so he was charged under the Communications Act 2003, for sending malicious communications that were grossly offensive.

That's really disturbing. Any blogger could be charged under that act for saying something that somebody finds offensive.

At the risk of imprisonment, I'll say that Jade Goodey was a disgusting, racist, bullying, common as muck, ignorant whore who typified everything wrong about the UK today.

Funny that when she first appeared on Big Brother she was almost lynched by the public (and she was only 19), then again after making those racist remarks on the celebrity one. But as soon as she developed cancer she became another holier than thou princess Diana.

rogueteens 11-05-2010 02:23 PM

i think many of you are missing the point here, this bloke wasnt blogging or anything, he was electronically contacting relatives of the dead and gloating.

_Richard_ 11-05-2010 02:33 PM

it's bloody retarded that now we have to stand up for trolls, much less put up with them.

DWB 11-05-2010 02:40 PM

He post here? Sounds like the type of person who would.

PornMD 11-05-2010 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 17654282)
Why do people keep saying 'her' ???

In death, everyone has a name. Her name is Roberta Paulson.

burntfilm 11-05-2010 04:28 PM

Her name is Roberta Paulson.

Maxi 11-05-2010 06:25 PM

Bullshit, since when is trolling a crime?

Next they'll be jailing people for cussing on forums.

If you don't wanna get trolled don't allow random people to post on your memorial pages, simple.

Hermes 11-05-2010 08:42 PM

"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can say/show Anything to anyone without consequences. And not everything can be put under the excuse of "trolling", else we could allow (sexual) harassment, racism, bullying etc. too. Mental violence can be just as bad as physical.

will76 11-05-2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machete_ (Post 17654281)
on what charges?

lol for being an asshole like you. You will be next!!!! :thumbsup:321GFY

u-Bob 11-06-2010 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 17676748)
"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can say/show Anything to anyone without consequences. And not everything can be put under the excuse of "trolling", else we could allow (sexual) harassment, racism, bullying etc. too. Mental violence can be just as bad as physical.

Statist propaganda. The right of freedom of speech is absolute. The whole "you can't hurt other people's feelings" idea is just an excuse to silence opposition. If you destroy someone's property, you can measure the damage and put a price tag on that. But how the hell do you measure "emotional damage"? You simply can't.

DamianJ 11-06-2010 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 17676748)
"Freedom of speech" doesn't mean you can say/show Anything to anyone

Yes it does. That is, by definition, what it means.


"Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship or limitation, or both."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 17676748)
without consequences.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with consequences. (Which, incidentally, will never be the same.)

Dirty Dane 11-06-2010 08:28 AM

Freedom of speech:

Quote:

The posts included comments claiming he had sex with the victims' dead bodies, the court heard.
His rights were not trial. :2 cents:

Cyber Fucker 11-06-2010 08:35 AM

Ok, he did wrong and he is stupid cunt ... but jail for web trolling is crossing the line a bit.

Agent 488 11-06-2010 08:44 AM

the tree of freedom is watered with the blood of tyrants.

Scott McD 11-06-2010 08:47 AM

Anyone who makes one of those Facebook Memorial Pages which anyone can post on, and doesn't think people will abuse it deserve what they get to be honest...

DVTimes 11-06-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker (Post 17677453)
Ok, he did wrong and he is stupid cunt ... but jail for web trolling is crossing the line a bit.

british law for you.

steal a car, run somone over, they die. you probably get a fine of £30.

do not pay your tv licence then you go to prison.

u-Bob 11-06-2010 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17677535)
british law for you.

steal a car, run somone over, they die. you probably get a fine of £30.

do not pay your tv licence then you go to prison.

That's because they don't care about crimes against people or people's property. They only care if it affects their own bottom line (taxes, license fees,...).

Hermes 11-06-2010 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17677402)
Yes it does. That is, by definition, what it means.


"Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship or limitation, or both."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech



Freedom of speech has nothing to do with consequences. (Which, incidentally, will never be the same.)

From the same source you quoted:

"According to the Freedom Forum Organization, legal systems, and society at large, recognize limits on the freedom of speech, particularly when freedom of speech conflicts with other values or rights.[30] Limitations to freedom of speech may follow the "harm principle" or the "offense principle", for example in the case of pornography or hate speech.[31] Limitations to freedom of speech may occur through legal sanction or social disapprobation, or both."

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17677283)
Statist propaganda. The right of freedom of speech is absolute. The whole "you can't hurt other people's feelings" idea is just an excuse to silence opposition. If you destroy someone's property, you can measure the damage and put a price tag on that. But how the hell do you measure "emotional damage"? You simply can't.

Just if you can't measure something precicely, it doesn't mean it's irrelevant. And these days emotional problems are maybe even bigger issue than physical ones for human kind.

mafia_man 11-06-2010 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 17675249)
I believe in free speech, but...

The whole point of free speech is that there are no lines, so the above statement is a complete contradiction.

I hate this fucking police state and I can't wait to leave for Canada which is less "police state-ish".

Dirty Dane 11-06-2010 10:24 AM

He should have gone to mental institution, not jail.

u-Bob 11-06-2010 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hermes (Post 17677647)
Just if you can't measure something precicely, it doesn't mean it's irrelevant. And these days emotional problems are maybe even bigger issue than physical ones for human kind.

All human beings are master (owner) of their own body. This means they have the right to use their own body and their property (the fruits of their labor) as they see fit as long as they don't case damage to another human being's body or property.

Freedom of speech = The right to use your body to produce the words you want. the right to use your paper and your ink to write what you want.

If you put limits on free speech, you put limits on what people are allowed to do with their body... meaning: you don't believe people are master of their own body.

Hermes 11-06-2010 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17677716)
All human beings are master (owner) of their own body. This means they have the right to use their own body and their property (the fruits of their labor) as they see fit as long as they don't case damage to another human being's body or property.

Human mind is also part of their body or property, probably the most important part. If you use extensive harassment to damage other person's mind then you're doing actual damage to them. I'm not saying that people should be punished from every bad word they say to each other, and these cases can be borderline, but there have to be limits somewhere, and in most sensible countries there are.

If people would not be such idiots to each other, we would not need such laws, but sadly that will probably never change. Personally I don't see much difference between harassment compared to physically slapping someone to face or etc.

Hank_Heartland 11-06-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 17677402)
Yes it does. That is, by definition, what it means.


"Freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship or limitation, or both."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech



Freedom of speech has nothing to do with consequences. (Which, incidentally, will never be the same.)

WRONG!!! Freedom of speech has limitations example, (and I know this is played out) you can't yell !!!FIRE!!! or !!!BOMB!!! in a crowded theater without consequences. There is always certain speech that is NOT protected in any given society. There is no freedom without license:thumbsup

tony286 11-06-2010 12:15 PM

Freedom of speech really is the right to speak out against government and not go to jail .for the forefathers that was enough because people went to jail for that.


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