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Hinc 10-28-2010 09:26 AM

Paysites CMS / Which one is better ?
 
Heya

We are plotting to integrate our paysites on a new CMC in the near future - and are looking around for the best options to do so ...

So far we have looked at:

Sitedepth -> looks good featurewise, maybe lacking some mobile and its a one-off reasonable payment. On the downside there seems to be lots of complaints about the support.

ElevatedX -> looks more advanced, but the monthly lease/modules seem like a big downside unless its vastly better.

Theadultinterface -> looks very smooth and nice, but the one of price is insanely high by the looks of it.

Awiz -> havent really investigated them, it seems cheap, but many people warn that the integration is difficult and support is mainly in russian/poor.

What experiences do people have? Any recommendations/thoughts?

TMM_Vlad 10-28-2010 09:36 AM

Have you got a chance to look at our content management system CARMA?
https://www.toomuchmedia.com/pp_carma.htm

I can give you a detailed demo when you get a chance. :)

Thanks!

Hinc 10-28-2010 09:48 AM

Havent checked out Carma no, at first glimpse it seems like a solid option - although the onetime fee is extremely high and doesnt include ongoing support. But will have a closer look

alsdesign 10-28-2010 09:49 AM

Try also Adult Site CMS (affil)

I can recommend this CMS, have been doing templates for it.

New 3.0 version has tons of features, very good price <-> value ratio.

Hinc 10-28-2010 10:35 AM

I must admit I ruled out Adult Site CMS - its nice looking and cheap...but being a wordpress plugin, well I simply wouldnt trust that platform with paysites. Further, they didnt reply to support requests - so obviously that didnt add to the confidence.

adultsitecms 10-28-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17648770)
I must admit I ruled out Adult Site CMS - its nice looking and cheap...but being a wordpress plugin, well I simply wouldnt trust that platform with paysites. Further, they didnt reply to support requests - so obviously that didnt add to the confidence.

Hello,

I do not know when you tried to talk to us, but we are always around. I admit that if you try to hit us up on ICQ only and not email or call us, it can sometimes get lost.

Just let me know what you need and your concerns. We are running AdultsiteCMS on some of the biggest sites and made sure to lock down all security issues.

All scripts have security issues - you just need to stay on top of them with upgrades, custom blocking and permission settings.

Most of it comes down to having a good host whom can stay on top of things as well for you.

Claude.

Bugbee 10-28-2010 10:56 AM

we have a great suite of products including a CMS that offers subscription, PPV, VOD, LIVE and CAMS hit me up for a demo

pornguy 10-28-2010 10:57 AM

Elevated X is the best. Talk with Czarina for design and integration.. mail her at info at wedesig.net

rogueteens 10-28-2010 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17648559)
Awiz -> havent really investigated them, it seems cheap, but many people warn that the integration is difficult and support is mainly in russian/poor.

This is the only one i've tried out of your list, intergration isnt bad but the support is a bit ... "abrasive" at times.

icymelon 10-28-2010 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultsitecms (Post 17648838)
Hello,

I do not know when you tried to talk to us, but we are always around. I admit that if you try to hit us up on ICQ only and not email or call us, it can sometimes get lost.

Just let me know what you need and your concerns. We are running AdultsiteCMS on some of the biggest sites and made sure to lock down all security issues.

All scripts have security issues - you just need to stay on top of them with upgrades, custom blocking and permission settings.

Most of it comes down to having a good host whom can stay on top of things as well for you.

Claude.


I hit you up on icq. do you guys have a trial? I guess that might be tough with wordpress plugins.

TMM_Vlad 10-28-2010 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17648621)
Havent checked out Carma no, at first glimpse it seems like a solid option - although the onetime fee is extremely high and doesnt include ongoing support. But will have a closer look

Hinc, the first year of support is included in the out-right and every year after that is $750 if you need it. Our lease option includes the support as long as you have an active license and cost $150 per month flat.

Also, I would be careful with companies who sell you a software for a flat rate and tell you they will give you support forever.

I have added you on icq to further discuss further details on pricing etc.

brandonstills 10-28-2010 12:52 PM

Sitedepth is probably the cheapest. It has limited functionality and as well supported. If their demo does what you need it is probably the best option.

ElevatedX and Carma are both solid CMS products with strong support and company backing. There is a little bit of a learning curve and you have to build your workflow and site around how they work. This is usually not a problem but sometimes it is not ideal. They are a bit pricier too; but you get what you pay for. Both companies have excellent support if you need someone to help you through the process.

Custom CMS solutions might also work depending on what you need. Typically they can range between $500 to $3000 depending on what you need. You would have the advantage of getting exactly what you want. Disadvantages are a little bit of delay to get them written, plus you need to know exactly what it is you want. Usually the functionality is not going to be as rich as an off-the-shelf but they are usually more straight-forward and based around your workflow. Myself and other programmers on here are more than happy to help with custom CMS solutions.

Hope that helps.

Zuzana Designs 10-28-2010 01:31 PM

We have worked with just about every CMS on the market over the years and ElevatedX has great support and an overall phenomenal script worth every penny. ElevatedX gets my vote. They're changing with the industry and constantly adding features to make this powerful CMS even better. Hit AJ up for a demo at www.elevatedx.com he will be happy to show you why they are the industries best.

RuthB 10-28-2010 01:34 PM

I used ElevatedX a while ago, it's a great platform, easy to use and they offer a variety of options to keep you on top, with mobile CMS etc.

You should definitely hit up AJ, he's great to work with! :thumbsup

Hinc 10-28-2010 02:10 PM

Some good points - and interesting new options have come up already. Busy looking into Carma, finding further info on Sitedepth and may have another look at Elevatedx given all the positive reviews, though i really dont like the leasing/modular concept.

adultsitecms 10-28-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 17649031)
I hit you up on icq. do you guys have a trial? I guess that might be tough with wordpress plugins.

Hello,

We do not have a trial, but we do stand behind our product 100%. We have sold over 300 licenses so far and counting and only had three clients who were refunded.

Claude

RuthB 10-28-2010 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17649418)
Some good points - and interesting new options have come up already. Busy looking into Carma, finding further info on Sitedepth and may have another look at Elevatedx given all the positive reviews, though i really dont like the leasing/modular concept.

you don't HAVE to lease it, I believe you can buy it outright if you prefer

icymelon 10-28-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultsitecms (Post 17649449)
Hello,

We do not have a trial, but we do stand behind our product 100%. We have sold over 300 licenses so far and counting and only had three clients who were refunded.

Claude

Thats pretty nice. so you have a money back guarantee. So it doesnt work for me you do offer a refund. Thats almost better than a trial version.

NetwErk GUrl 10-28-2010 03:12 PM

Have you considered our CMS?

You should check into it here:
http://mansionproductions.com/mas/

We have both purchase and lease options to make it accessible to any budget, and many successful sites run on it. :)

I'd be happy to show you a demo, so let me know!

icymelon 10-28-2010 06:48 PM

anyone using adultsitecms?

Machete_ 10-28-2010 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 17649306)
We have worked with just about every CMS on the market over the years and ElevatedX has great support.

No it doesn't.

It's a great product but support takes ages to do stuff. I'm thinking they are just undermanned.

trevesty 10-28-2010 06:54 PM

Carma gets my vote :thumbsup

lagcam 10-28-2010 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bugbee (Post 17648843)
we have a great suite of products including a CMS that offers subscription, PPV, VOD, LIVE and CAMS hit me up for a demo

You should fix the x2k.com link in your sig Bugbee. Maybe missing business.

Toni 10-28-2010 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetwErk GUrl (Post 17649554)
Have you considered our CMS?

You should check into it here:
http://mansionproductions.com/mas/

We have both purchase and lease options to make it accessible to any budget, and many successful sites run on it. :)

I'd be happy to show you a demo, so let me know!

This is a great one :thumbsup

Hinc 10-28-2010 11:42 PM

MAS -> Looks brilliant, but even more expensive than Carma, and with about the same range of features as far as I can tell.

Gonna sit down with the others today and lay out the options, pricings, features today - and see which ones to demo/get serious about.

I actually had an older version of adultsitecms at one point for a side project - never got it installed, and it disappeared as I upgraded wordpress to version 3.01 - and support didnt reply.

icymelon 10-29-2010 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17650413)
MAS -> Looks brilliant, but even more expensive than Carma, and with about the same range of features as far as I can tell.

Gonna sit down with the others today and lay out the options, pricings, features today - and see which ones to demo/get serious about.

I actually had an older version of adultsitecms at one point for a side project - never got it installed, and it disappeared as I upgraded wordpress to version 3.01 - and support didnt reply.

thats not good news. anyone using adultsitecms? would love to see a site in action before wasting $250

The Usual Suspect 10-29-2010 02:52 AM

We use MAS, and it's great!
But still waiting on their 2.0 version!

RadicalSights 10-29-2010 03:13 AM

www.sitedepth.com

Gambit 10-29-2010 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17648559)
Awiz -> havent really investigated them, it seems cheap, but many people warn that the integration is difficult and support is mainly in russian/poor.

Am pretty sure its German not Russian. Problem i have with them is that they charge for every tiny mod as they don't have macros working on every page. Have also been told they basically couldn't do one thing for me (sort models by date added - as the engine couldn't do it) Its a good starter CMS tho. They always get back to on same day.

If you know how to call things out of the db you can acheive a lot with it tho.

mikeworks 10-29-2010 04:17 AM

If your just going to have one or two paysites I would say have a static tour and pick a tube script to run the members area. I have two cms mentioned above, one of the expensive kind.

I would say the workflow compared to a good tube script is a lot more. Many pages need clicking (need to visit about 6 different pages in admin area for each video you add), chmod files, renaming files, creating thumbnails one by one etc. Adding same content to a good tube script will save you a lot of time and negate the excessive recurring monthly fees.

Hinc 10-29-2010 05:54 AM

mike -> good idea, but it doesnt really offer a sufficient platform for all the sites or the functionality we need. I can see it being really good advice for single videobased sites though.

Hinc 10-29-2010 08:43 AM

Elevatedx only lists leasing options - mailed them and asked for a quote on a onetime fee, so lets see.

adultsitecms 10-29-2010 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 17650467)
thats not good news. anyone using adultsitecms? would love to see a site in action before wasting $250

Here are just some.

http://kyleesands.com/
http://lustfulgoddess.com/tour/
http://www.fuckfestnight.com/tour/
http://www.woodnitesentertainment.com/
http://www.lucasentertainment.com/
http://www.euroticaguide.com/

adultsitecms 10-29-2010 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17650413)
MAS -> Looks brilliant, but even more expensive than Carma, and with about the same range of features as far as I can tell.

Gonna sit down with the others today and lay out the options, pricings, features today - and see which ones to demo/get serious about.

I actually had an older version of adultsitecms at one point for a side project - never got it installed, and it disappeared as I upgraded wordpress to version 3.01 - and support didnt reply.

Perhaps my reply to you got put in SPAM, I remember this case and sent you the patch required to upgrade the Wordpress.

Noe 10-29-2010 08:52 AM

Elevated X:thumbsup:thumbsup

Hinc 10-29-2010 09:12 AM

adultsitecms -> maybe so, could happen. My mail is webmaster @ smfiles. com / icq 96128702 - but its not on an active paysite, so not actually super critical.

peedy 10-29-2010 01:15 PM

Here are some others to consider, I don't have any experience with them.

http://www.thepaysitecms.com/index.html
http://www.porncms.com/
http://www.industryscripts.com/paysitephp

The Usual Suspect 10-29-2010 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetwErk GUrl (Post 17649554)
Have you considered our CMS?

You should check into it here:
http://mansionproductions.com/mas/

Any update on when V.2.0 will be released?

TMM_John 10-29-2010 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hinc (Post 17650413)
Gonna sit down with the others today and lay out the options, pricings, features today - and see which ones to demo/get serious about.

Take both NATS & CARMA and I'll waive all of the upfront fees for you. That will save you $1250 in up front costs.

You'll pay only the monthly lease costs ($150/mo fixed rate for CARMA, NATS is tiered starting at $150/mo) so it will be a total of only $300 to get started with both products.

I want you to experience the quality of our products and the second to none level of support we provide. You'll still receive full installation and full on the phone walkthrus/training of both products even though you won't have to pay the fees.

Also, our standard procedure is to include a 30 day setup period with each installation. So the initial $300 will cover you on both products for 60 days (30 days setup and first month's lease). You won't have a second bill until more than 60 days later.

If after the 60 days you're not happy with the products and support we provide as the largest & most respected software provider in the industry you're welcome to a refund of the $300.

If you're interested please get in touch with Vlad and mention this thread.

Vlad:
vlad/toomuchmedia/com
732-385-1536 x1123
icq: 452583619
aim: tmmvlad

Kolargol 10-30-2010 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambit (Post 17650652)
Am pretty sure its German not Russian. Problem i have with them is that they charge for every tiny mod as they don't have macros working on every page. Have also been told they basically couldn't do one thing for me (sort models by date added - as the engine couldn't do it) Its a good starter CMS tho. They always get back to on same day.

If you know how to call things out of the db you can acheive a lot with it tho.

I'd rather say it's based in one of the Baltic countries. Support is good. No upgrades for almost 2 years :(

Hornydog4cooter 10-30-2010 04:52 AM

ElevatedX for the win :thumbsup

Christophe 10-30-2010 07:02 AM

I use CARMA and I am quite happy with it. It is easy to use and the support is reliable. However ElevatedX has more features, more significant updates and would probably save me time and make my workflow more effective.

plsureking 10-30-2010 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 17649306)
ElevatedX gets my vote.

damn i guess i'll stop referring u..

ya eX is good if u like suitware ;)

Hinc 10-30-2010 10:43 AM

What features does Elevatedx have, that are missing from Carma?

Hinc 11-02-2010 06:23 AM

Aha, the addon elevatedx module for mobile is missing from Carma


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