GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum

GoFuckYourself.com - Adult Webmaster Forum (https://gfy.com/index.php)
-   Fucking Around & Business Discussion (https://gfy.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26)
-   -   Danish tax authorities want to mirror hard disks of private companies (https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=993492)

u-Bob 10-20-2010 01:22 PM

Danish tax authorities want to mirror hard disks of private companies
 
from edri:

Quote:

A new proposed law would allow the Danish tax authorities to simply mirror
entire hard disks of companies without a court order and before they have a
reason to suspect the company has engaged in unlawful activities.

The proposal adds the following two paragraphs to the law of tax auditing
(unofficial translation):

"Paragraph. 6. Customs and tax administration can make identical
electronic copies (mirrors) of the content of electronic media that
falls under the control of the customs and tax administrations, and can
take the copied material away for subsequent review. The copied material
must be deleted, if the customs and tax administration determines
that the material does not contain information that is relevant for the
control exercised by the customs and tax administration. However, if the
customs and tax agency decides to proceed with the case, the copied
material must be deleted only after the case is finally decided.

Paragraph. 7. The minister of taxation determines, after submission to
the National Board of Taxation, further rules regarding the customs and
tax administration's right to make identical electronic copies (mirrors)
of the data content of electronic media, that are part of an inspection,
including rules on the retention and deletion of the copied material. "

In the comments to the proposal, the issue of proportionality in relation
to the Human Rights Convention article 8.2 is discussed. It was concluded
that since the tax authorities will only use mirroring in cases where
they would otherwise not get the necessary information, and only after
they have determined in each case that less drastic measures would not
be sufficient, then the impact on the individuals subject to the control
is limited.

The tax authorities argue the law will make their job easier, they
promise not to abuse their new powers, and are willing to make
adjustments if the consultation should point out minor problems.

The proposal from the liberal/conservative government is supported by
the largest opposition party, the Social Democrats, as Nick Hækkerup said to
Berlingske newspaper. He wants to ensure that the mirrors are only used
for taxation, with the exception that if the tax authorities happen to
discover child abuse images, it should be reported to the police.

Conversely, the proposal has met hard criticism from the Danish Data
Protection Agency, major medias, think tank CEPOS, blogs, etc.
Draft law (only in Danish, 1.09.2010)
https://www.borger.dk/Lovgivning/Hoe...spx?hpid=24994

Civil liberty under pressure (only in Danish, 4.10.2010)
http://www.berlingske.dk/ledere/borg...hed-under-pres

Tax authorities requires free access to the hard disk (only in Danish,
4.10.2010)
http://www.business.dk/oekonomi/skat...til-harddisken

Politicians welcomed the mirroring (only in Danish, 4.10.2010)
http://www.business.dk/oekonomi/poli...t-paa-spejling

Carmen80 10-20-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

The tax authorities argue the law will make their job easier, they
promise not to abuse their new powers
, and are willing to make
adjustments if the consultation should point out minor problems.
Seems trustable.

Ethersync 10-20-2010 02:13 PM

Jesus. I am so tired of hearing about shit like this. The world is, not-so-slowing, becoming a fucking police state right before our eyes. Who wants to start a new country with me?

u-Bob 10-20-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17626438)
Who wants to start a new country with me?

Libertatia?

Ethersync 10-20-2010 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17626455)
Libertatia?

Works for me. Let's get started: http://www.wikihow.com/Start-Your-Own-Country

:thumbsup

Bossman 10-20-2010 02:51 PM

Any other countries having these rules or is the first of many to come?

SteveHardeman 10-20-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17626438)
Jesus. I am so tired of hearing about shit like this. The world is, not-so-slowing, becoming a fucking police state right before our eyes. Who wants to start a new country with me?

I'm with you man. Can we call it Hardevakia?

Cyber Fucker 10-20-2010 03:59 PM

That's crazy!

PornMD 10-20-2010 04:00 PM

http://home.comcast.net/~naitram/trap!.jpg

rowan 10-20-2010 05:10 PM

Identical copies? Encrypt your HD then... they can copy all the garbage they want, that's all it will be without the key/password. :D

Ethersync 10-20-2010 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 17626894)
Identical copies? Encrypt your HD then... they can copy all the garbage they want, that's all it will be without the key/password. :D

Then they sue you for encryption key.

If it actually became an issue and governments were mirroring drives like this I would start storing absolutely nothing of importance on my local drive and all private data would be stored (encrypted) on a server out of the country.

Cyber Fucker 10-20-2010 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17626923)
Then they sue you for encryption key.

True that, a few weeks ago in Great Britain one teenage boy has been sentenced for 4 months of jail for not telling the password to his encrypted hard drive.

IllTestYourGirls 10-20-2010 05:44 PM

I see nothing wrong with this.

Bossman 10-20-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 17626955)
I see nothing wrong with this.

Once information leaves your hands, then you have no control over it... Ex. what if your copied hard drives got stolen from the tax office?

Quote:

Danes who feel they are being robbed by the taxman may smiled wryly upon hearing about a burglary this week in Copenhagen. At least 15 PC computers were taken from the Danish Tax Ministry in Christianshavn overnight on Thursday 31st September.

?We have estimated that some 15 PCs and two telephones were stolen,? Tax Ministry press officer Morten Schoop told Politiken. Schoop, however, insisted that taxpayers? personal details are safe. ?All data is encrypted so there should be no danger of hacking into sensitive information,? he said.

According to police, there were no signs of a break-in, prompting suspicions that the burglary could have been an inside job. No suspects have yet been identified, however.

This is the fourth time this year that a tax office in Denmark has been looted. On April 23, three centres in Jutland were raided within just a few hours of each other. It is not known if the burglaries are linked and authorities are said to have no clue about the identities of the self-styled modern-day Robin Hoods. But in the end the costs will inevitably fall to the tax payer.
http://www.icenews.is/index.php/2010...office-looted/

u-Bob 10-21-2010 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker (Post 17626944)
True that, a few weeks ago in Great Britain one teenage boy has been sentenced for 4 months of jail for not telling the password to his encrypted hard drive.

There used to be a time when people were considered innocent until proven guilty. These days, you're considered guilty unless you are willing to give up all your rights in an attempt to prove you are innocent :(

maxxtro 10-21-2010 04:47 AM

Give it an other 10-15 years and Europe will be a fascist state again.

BIGTYMER 10-21-2010 04:53 AM

And I thought America was bad. :)

andrej_NDC 10-21-2010 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker (Post 17626944)
True that, a few weeks ago in Great Britain one teenage boy has been sentenced for 4 months of jail for not telling the password to his encrypted hard drive.

Shouldn't the country be called Shitty Britain already? For a few years now.

Ethersync 10-21-2010 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 17628054)
There used to be a time when people were considered innocent until proven guilty.

Sounds so quaint these days...

Sly 10-21-2010 06:52 AM

It saddens me a great deal to think that people actually entertain ideas like this.


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:10 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
©2000-, AI Media Network Inc123