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DVTimes 10-18-2010 03:55 PM

server question
 
How come servers do not crash these days?

OK, they do a bit, but there was a time servers were crashing all the time.

Is it the hardwear is more reliable these days or is it the softwear has less bugs?

And on a side note if you want to run a server, how hard is it to do or learn?

Do people self teach or do they go to college/uni for this stuff?

Also how hard is it to do scripts and stuff?

Barefootsies 10-18-2010 03:58 PM

Better hardware.

Better programmers/written scripts.

:2 cents:

AdultKing 10-18-2010 03:59 PM

Server hardware has become much more reliable over the years, Linux and FreeBSD has matured and is less prone to crashes.

Learning is not too difficult, mastering takes many years. I've been working with various incarnations of *nix for over 25 years and still wouldn't consider myself expert.

Some of your questions are really 'how long is a piece of string' , do you want to just run your own server / VPS or do you want to become a guru ?

Cyber Fucker 10-18-2010 04:02 PM

If you are with a reliable company then you are crashproof, and even if somehow crash occurs a reliable company will detect it and will sort it withing a minutes so you won't notice it. If you are with a crap company then you may expect crashes all over again. I think that not much has changed over the last years. Of course there are more stable SSD drives but even such drive may crash and this is not about it.

Domain Broker 10-18-2010 04:04 PM

Judging by your posts on here you won't be able to do it if you studied 24 hours a day for 48 years.

fatman1 10-18-2010 04:06 PM

They do crash these days, i'm not sure you're right about that. Hardware is better, i'm not sure about more reliable, though - there are so many different server options out there that it would be impossible to say. Are cars more reliable these days?

Some people goto college, some people self teach. It don't have to be hard to run a server, i'm running Ubuntu on one of mine and its really easy - installing and updating software is just a matter of learning a few commands.

Learning programming/scripting is a whole other thing and a little harder to learn perhaps but it does go hand in hand with server admin.

Get Googling.. "linux commands" or "linux tutorials" or even "server admin tutorials" should give you some nice results and get you some idea of what is involved. same goes for scripting.. "php tutorials" or "perl turorials" .. just take a look

good luck!!

Cyandin 10-18-2010 04:18 PM

Global analysts noticed that since www.dedico.com came around, server crashes decreased dramatically! :winkwink:

redwhiteandblue 10-18-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17619814)
Also how hard is it to do scripts and stuff?

It's really really hard. I mean, really really really hard. You should just get someone to write any scripts you want for you, like me for example but it'll cost you about one million pounds.

signupdamnit 10-18-2010 04:35 PM

If you're going to use a linux based server (most still do but some use Windows or unix) and you want to learn to admin it yourself then your best bet is to at least have a machine locally with that OS loaded on it. Then use the local machine to learn by spending some time each day with it. Switching over completely to Linux (as your Desktop) might help you learn faster as well since it will be more of an immersed experience.

Based on the questions you are asking I would not even consider it until you have a good six months experience first. :2 cents:

oscer 10-18-2010 04:57 PM

I would say better hardware and more redundency also the newer management Systems probably helped a bit too

AdultEUhost 10-18-2010 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17619814)
How come servers do not crash these days?

OK, they do a bit, but there was a time servers were crashing all the time.

Is it the hardwear is more reliable these days or is it the softwear has less bugs?

And on a side note if you want to run a server, how hard is it to do or learn?

Do people self teach or do they go to college/uni for this stuff?

Also how hard is it to do scripts and stuff?

Better technology, servers are much stronger and more capable of doing what they are made for. Most people have dual or quad cores so servers are running at ease.

Secondly development is running fast these days, more and more people start contributing in open source software like Linux etc, more patches are published faster. While a few years back a lot of stuff was still cutting edge, these technologies have matured into stable environments now.

XSV 10-18-2010 05:29 PM

Besides what has been stated, being able to easily load up on RAM now doesn't hurt either.

ArsewithClass 10-18-2010 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatman1 (Post 17619852)
They do crash these days, i'm not sure you're right about that. Hardware is better, i'm not sure about more reliable, though - there are so many different server options out there that it would be impossible to say. Are cars more reliable these days?

Some people goto college, some people self teach. It don't have to be hard to run a server, i'm running Ubuntu on one of mine and its really easy - installing and updating software is just a matter of learning a few commands.

Learning programming/scripting is a whole other thing and a little harder to learn perhaps but it does go hand in hand with server admin.

Get Googling.. "linux commands" or "linux tutorials" or even "server admin tutorials" should give you some nice results and get you some idea of what is involved. same goes for scripting.. "php tutorials" or "perl turorials" .. just take a look

good luck!!


www.adulthosting.com Very reliable & reasonable costs :thumbsup

DVTimes 10-18-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 17620178)
www.adulthosting.com Very reliable & reasonable costs :thumbsup

F*ck me. I wodered how long it would be before you posted some crap to get your sig in.

So gary, why not tell us your advanced knoledge on servers.

Or do you know f*ck alll, like you know sod all about anything else?

ArsewithClass 10-18-2010 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 17620204)
F*ck me. I wodered how long it would be before you posted some crap to get your sig in.

So gary, why not tell us your advanced knoledge on servers.

Or do you know f*ck alll, like you know sod all about anything else?

Im a producer, I could try to teach you how to shoot decent footage, but you're probably not too capable of learning.


No crap in my post, just an url to a great web server www.adulthosting.com You must be looking at the crap that you wrote in the first post to this thread.

ArsewithClass 10-18-2010 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass (Post 17620239)
Im a producer, I could try to teach you how to shoot decent footage, but you're probably not too capable of learning.


No crap in my post, just an url to a great web server www.adulthosting.com You must be looking at the crap that you wrote in the first post to this thread.

The crap in our first post asking why technology has improved... like what a dumb thread.

oscer 10-18-2010 06:03 PM

I would say better hardware and more redundency also the newer management Systems probably helped a bit too

alias 10-18-2010 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatman1 (Post 17619852)
They do crash these days, i'm not sure you're right about that. Hardware is better, i'm not sure about more reliable, though - there are so many different server options out there that it would be impossible to say. Are cars more reliable these days?

Some people goto college, some people self teach. It don't have to be hard to run a server, i'm running Ubuntu on one of mine and its really easy - installing and updating software is just a matter of learning a few commands.

Learning programming/scripting is a whole other thing and a little harder to learn perhaps but it does go hand in hand with server admin.

Get Googling.. "linux commands" or "linux tutorials" or even "server admin tutorials" should give you some nice results and get you some idea of what is involved. same goes for scripting.. "php tutorials" or "perl turorials" .. just take a look

good luck!!

Good pointers. FBSD is hardcore, no cpanel.

VHNet 10-18-2010 09:06 PM

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mlove 10-18-2010 09:17 PM

Servers do crash. I deal with crashing servers all the time. Usually hardware related issues though. Now that LSI owns 3ware, all of 3ware's products have gone to shit. Also, hard disk issues pop up at least once a week. A friend of mine works at the NCSA supercomputing facility, they deal with failed hard drives & memory all the time. Luckily, server-market people are finally starting to see the importance of raid.

I'm self taught, and work at a datacenter. I started using linux in 1999, started using freebsd in 2001, and have been working here since 2007.


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