so, this girl wants to model... [pics soon]
 

I have a friend of mine that wants to start shooting. She's 24 next month, looks 21, like a college sophomore. 5'8, maybe a B or small C cup, and about 130lbs.

I talked with her tonight and she's definitely down for the ex-girlfriend style stuff, photos, video, totally nude, toys / bj / intercourse. She also has a couple of friends that might be interested as well. Full docs / 2257 / model release for each of them.

I'm very much into the ex-girlfriend style stuff, I definitely know I can shoot / direct ex-girlfriend style content.

What I'm wondering, and hoping to get input on, is if it's worth my time to do this kind of stuff. I have a camera but would need to pick up a video cam for the videos. Is it worth it to get into this? How much am I looking to make if I sell each set 10 times or sell exclusive sets? Any pitfalls to watch out for?

Any tips or advice would be appreciated.

Yes, I know this thread is worthless without pics, but she should be sending me front and back nudes within a week. Will post when I receive them :thumbsup

no pics, no comment

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I'm just looking for general comments, but if I have to I'll just wait a week and ask again.

Well, can you at least draw her in paintbrush?

Why are you asking for a specific amount anyway? Are you trying to figure out if it's worth your time? If she's good looking, then yes it will be worth it. You will make money. You can do it in your extra time, so I see no harm or why youre asking if its worth it. You won't know how much you can sell your content for until you get it out there, then what will determine that will be how much the person wants your content.

And yes, for people to even give a relatively close guess, they would need to see photos.

Then theres the question, are you selling it exclusive/semi-exclusive/non-exclusive, supplying a company with regular updates. Alot of things would determine how much money you would make with this venture.

Your camera/lenses and your quality of photography will determine who you will be selling to, so without seeing that, people wouldn't be able to estimate either. Then theres lighting, lighting is key in photography and I assume you don't have much for that either so the only companies I could see you selling to without good lighting or knowing how to work good lighting is sites with cheap amateur/selfshot type content.

If you are a good photographer and have a decent camera and could pick up some decent lighting and these girls are gorgeous, that might open some more windows.

So in short, nobody could even give you a rough estimate. Post some photos of your work and the models, or better yet... the best photos you can produce with those models and then you will see some more accurate projections from us.

Ive sold alot of networks in the past and I still couldn't project what I would make by selling my current one, why? Because it's about finding the right buyer, sometimes you find one, sometimes you don't. I sold my last network for much less because there wasn't enough buyers in the industry. So it's about more than just your content.

Where's Markham??

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He specifically said Ex-GF style shit you monkeys. If you yell about good lighting and equipment for that shit YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.

Pics within a week? HAHAHAHAA.

If she had any intention of doing it she could have just given you the images she already had on her phone.

In girl time a week in the future == NEVER.

I don't mean to sound harsh, but don't hold your breath. It's the too-good-to-be-true aspect that sets alarm bells ringing.

Yes to everything and she has friends? Too easy. Life isn't like that. In the unlikely event she does actually THINK she has friends that will - at least one of them definately won't. Once one is a no, all the rest then become nos as well.

Alternatively, it was just easier to say yes to everything to get you to shut up and go away.

Or, yes to everything, because she hadn't thunk any of it through. Once sober and thinking straight?... Could go either way.

Oh, and one other thing. Chase for those pics and you've blown it too. Your one and only chance is to ignore the fuck out of her by not acting like a needy looser. She's OK, but you have options, kinda thing...

I wish I didn't know this stuff but after 11 years and 700 shoots I've spoken to far, far to many girls and blown it in every concievable way. Be direct and honest, girls can smell bullshit and failure a mile off. Pay for every shoot.

Of course it's worth buying a video camera, even if it doesn't sell, you'll still have handcrafted porn that you made.

Pics please :)

any photos?

so, i caught this HUGE fish... [pics soon]

Wheres the pics at!??!?!

pics are in motion

post a pic for review

By the way, to any would be photographers - this is important.

And that means, if you pay the girl for 3 hours and she's there for 3.5 hours, pay her the extra half hour instead of being a cheapass and 1) ignoring it or 2) being "nice" by taking her out to lunch.

If a girl who is not desperate smells cheapness, you're never getting a shoot with her again.

This applies to certain individuals from GFY even (not SimonScans).

no pics yet?

ok where are the pics :)

100% agree!

i got huge cock..see soon

no pics no comments?

^ new niche?

Wow! She's hot... you should do a solo girl site with her.

Lovely smile! :)

Here.

Here's a few thoughts. Assuming she turns up as Simon said.

You have no idea what the girl looks like, attitude or personality until you meet her. Until you understand models and managing them you have little idea of how she will perform to the camera.

The Ex GF niche in my experience is small and pays badly. Which is why so many threads asking for content. One site pays $150 a scene. :Oh crap Even if you can sell to everyone of them it will not make much money. Do you know how much she will ask for a days work? So if you want to make money, aim at better niches.

This is assuming you can get her to perform in a way her Ex BF would of got her to perform. It's not always as easy as it sounds.

In my experience some guys just can't shoot porn. They don't have the character or personality. Too nice, too harsh, too friendly, too distant, too pervy, not pervy enough, don't have a clue, too boring, etc. Too fucking ugly (but I got round that one LOL)