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tab 10-04-2010 09:06 PM

Epass And Taxes
 
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

Mutt 10-04-2010 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571354)
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

:1orglaugh

tab 10-04-2010 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 17571397)
:1orglaugh

I take that as a "no"

tab 10-04-2010 09:21 PM

So anyone ever get a wd-40 or a bullshit dot 2 or a t5 and a half from Epass???

epitome 10-04-2010 09:22 PM

Does tab stand for taxes audit bureau?

We're onto you...

epitome 10-04-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571411)
So anyone ever get a wd-40 or a bullshit dot 2 or a t5 and a half from Epass???

It doesn't matter. It is your responsibility to report income.

CYF 10-04-2010 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571354)
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

I really hope you're joking. I claim all my income, so should you.

cosis 10-04-2010 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571354)
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

:Oh crap

tab 10-04-2010 09:26 PM

Lot a nervous fidgeting going on now...lol :)

tab 10-04-2010 09:45 PM

Look...
My feeling is that most of the money in epass was undeclared revenue.
Better still, you could stream this undeclared revenue on to a visa card and live a jolly good life.
Mr. Mallick didn't fuck up even though he can be a bit of a narcissistic bozo.
He just never imagined that the great weight of the US treasury department and the IRS would lift itself off its comfy office chair to squash him.
I have no idea how much money moved through epass, anyone care to throw out a figure?
However, the tax losses must have been enormous.
Enough so that the IRS forces a meeting with Visa and the hammer drops.
Shut it down.
And down it shuts.
Uncle Sammy wants his moola.....

epitome 10-04-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571464)
Look...
My feeling is that most of the money in epass was undeclared revenue.
Better still, you could stream this undeclared revenue on to a visa card and live a jolly good life.
Mr. Mallick didn't fuck up even though he can be a bit of a narcissistic bozo.
He just never imagined that the great weight of the US treasury department and the IRS would lift itself off its comfy office chair to squash him.
I have no idea how much money moved through epass, anyone care to throw out a figure?
However, the tax losses must have been enormous.
Enough so that the IRS forces a meeting with Visa and the hammer drops.
Shut it down.
And down it shuts.
Uncle Sammy wants his moola.....

Not a new theory.

Let's see, Epass went down on 9/3, and people have been speculating about that very same scenario since...I think right around 9/4.

tab 10-04-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17571470)
Not a new theory.

Let's see, Epass went down on 9/3, and people have been speculating about that very same scenario since...I think right around 9/4.

Crap I must have missed it...
Can you point me to the thread...

Thanks

tab 10-04-2010 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 17571470)
Not a new theory.

Let's see, Epass went down on 9/3, and people have been speculating about that very same scenario since...I think right around 9/4.

At first you answered me 1 minute after my post.
At second you answered me 2 minutes after my post.
A third you answered me 3 minutes after my post.

Now more then 40 minutes have gone by and no answer?

Please do point out to me the thread where this theory has been discussed so I can invoke a colloque of like minded acolytes of sameness for being and gratification.
Please I do await your answer.

With all due respect of course...:)

GatorB 10-04-2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571354)
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

I've always claimed income. If the IRS ever decide to lok they would have found the money anyways so why put up with having the IRS on your ass?

ContentPimp 10-04-2010 11:46 PM

of course :D And I gave 35% of my epass earnings to government so I can scream at organized protests that I am a tax paying citizen and I DEMAND JUSTICE ____fill__in___cause___here! ;) ;)

McSpike 10-05-2010 01:07 AM

If the speculation was true I would imagine the US webmasters would have their assets frozen in the banks that handle wires and SKNANB that handles their VW. This would have also surfaced by now. Just as it did with Neteller.

It could be a dozen other things. The way epass did their due dilligence it is unbelievable no one put a stop to this organization. Not that it was illegal or anything, but the way due diligence was performed... no solid bank does it that poor. But then, they were not a bank.

u-Bob 10-05-2010 01:27 AM

<--- declares all income.

Sid70 10-05-2010 02:22 AM

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Emil 10-05-2010 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571354)
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

I did. After the meeting the tax agency had with me... Feels better to know that all money I got is mine and there wont be any problems in the future.

RycEric 10-05-2010 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571354)
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

No... but we do/did pay taxes on the withdrawals and subsequent deposits in our bank accounts.

DWB 10-05-2010 02:36 AM

I doubt anyone who used epass paid taxes on the money.

V_RocKs 10-05-2010 02:46 AM

I did. Kind of normal. The people that paid me via ePassporte also sent me 1099's. No different than checks. I only used the account to pay bills so those people might have something to answer for.

signupdamnit 10-05-2010 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17572287)
I doubt anyone who used epass paid taxes on the money.

If they live in the U.S. then they'd be fools not to have. Especially if it's a large amount of money.

TheDA 10-05-2010 03:07 AM

Of course.

Denny 10-05-2010 03:22 AM

Sure thing.

Zuzana Designs 10-05-2010 03:30 AM

I always transfer my money into a US bank account and always claim everything.

v4 media 10-05-2010 03:37 AM

If the payment was from a US co, then dont they have to fill out a W9?

BlackCrayon 10-05-2010 04:59 AM

if you have large amounts going through your epass, you sure as hell better. they are watching...it typically doesn't even matter if you claim it or not, if you have large amounts going through you could have some explaining to do and the tax man does not lkie it when you despoit random amounts of cash into your bank account and can't trace the amounts back to your epass withdrawls, so apparently you should be depositing the same amounts you withdraw ie withdraw 568, deposit 568 that same day, etc. if its going straight to your bank account from epass with no cash being involved, its much less messy should the tax man come after you.

notime 10-05-2010 05:03 AM

All properly booked, taxes paid, invoiced and checked by our accountants.

NinjaSteve 10-05-2010 05:23 AM

You should seek legal council about your taxes.

cykoe6 10-05-2010 05:31 AM

I pay taxes on all of my online income. I use Stats Remote to keep track of revenues. People using Epass for tax evasion and illegal activities is likely the reason why Epass is gone.

Ethersync 10-05-2010 05:35 AM

Yes, all by the book here as well.

Magix 10-05-2010 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 17572246)

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tab 10-05-2010 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 17572580)
if you have large amounts going through your epass, you sure as hell better. they are watching...

The IRS and Revenue Canada are not and could not watch Epass.
They are watching you.
So long as you do not give them a reason to look they won't.
Living the good life off of an off-shore credit card is very hard to detect.
Just make sure none of that webmaster revenue ever shows up in an on-shore bank and your good to go.
Visa won't report it, they earn a percentage with every transaction you make.
Epass won't report it they also earn off of every transaction you make.
And the same goes for the bank in St.Kitts and the shop keeper that accepted your credit card.
Epass was a great deal all around for everyone except the IRS

Agent 488 10-05-2010 06:50 AM

there is going to be a nice chunk of liquidity flowing into an ailing banking system this month. kind of weird, probably intentional.

BlackCrayon 10-05-2010 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17572858)
The IRS and Revenue Canada are not and could not watch Epass.
They are watching you.
So long as you do not give them a reason to look they won't.
Living the good life off of an off-shore credit card is very hard to detect.
Just make sure none of that webmaster revenue ever shows up in an on-shore bank and your good to go.
Visa won't report it, they earn a percentage with every transaction you make.
Epass won't report it they also earn off of every transaction you make.
And the same goes for the bank in St.Kitts and the shop keeper that accepted your credit card.
Epass was a great deal all around for everyone except the IRS

Maybe if you used a fake name/fake address, otherwise it can still come back to you.

martinsc 10-05-2010 07:01 AM

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CaptainHowdy 10-05-2010 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 17572246)

Best reply so far...

Naughty-Pages 10-05-2010 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17572323)
I did. Kind of normal. The people that paid me via ePassporte also sent me 1099's. No different than checks. I only used the account to pay bills so those people might have something to answer for.

Ditto.. kind of hard to use epass to avoid paying taxes when 1099's are being sent.

And the IRS is going to be requiring paypal, google checkout, and others to report stuff using a"1099-K" starting next year.. (and that might also include ccbill as that is technically a 3rd party processor).

The big problem i foresee is with this is companies that use paypal or ccbill etc for payouts that send 1099's already.. it is going to get real confusing at tax time because there are bound to be a ton of double entries. (which is probably why they use a unique form, but in the end it means alot of extra paperwork.. ugghh..).

If you ask me, they should just kill off the IRS and instead collect a higher sales tax.. then even drug dealers and hookers would pay, and there would be no need for filing returns, no need for the IRS, and no way to evade taxes... And it would be fair across the board, the more you make, the more you spend, the more you pay..

Either way, all of those ebay people are gonna be in for a big surprise lol..

David! 10-05-2010 07:47 AM

A lot of people used ePassporte for its convenience, not for tax evasion since if you are a US entity, you have to fill up a W-9, so how you get paid doesn't really matter since the IRS knows how much you are getting paid...

SmokeyTheBear 10-05-2010 10:17 AM

Mos people used epass for payments from sponsors who report the income anyways so it's a moot point really. Most people have no choice but to report it.

TurboAngel 10-05-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MCO_David (Post 17573081)
A lot of people used ePassporte for its convenience, not for tax evasion since if you are a US entity, you have to fill up a W-9, so how you get paid doesn't really matter since the IRS knows how much you are getting paid...

You got it! My aunt is an accountant and she does mine every year.

TylerBang 10-05-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571354)
Anyone ever pay taxes on the revenue held in Epass?

Dude seriously, of course.

I hate prison.

Cash 10-05-2010 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tab (Post 17571403)
I take that as a "no"

:1orglaugh

Klen 10-05-2010 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17573702)
Mos people used epass for payments from sponsors who report the income anyways so it's a moot point really. Most people have no choice but to report it.

Well if you are from usa and using usa sponsor,then you need to fill w9 form and cant avoid it.

tab 10-05-2010 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 17573702)
Mos people used epass for payments from sponsors who report the income anyways so it's a moot point really. Most people have no choice but to report it.

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Originally Posted by MCO_David (Post 17573081)
A lot of people used ePassporte for its convenience, not for tax evasion since if you are a US entity, you have to fill up a W-9, so how you get paid doesn't really matter since the IRS knows how much you are getting paid...

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17573824)
Well if you are from usa and using usa sponsor,then you need to fill w9 form and cant avoid it.

Sounds good.
I get a fist full of "W" whatever's once a year from all the USA sponsors.
I get nothing from sponsors outside the US of which there are plenty.
Can't hand a "W" nothing to my accountant can I?

Keep in mind the actual reason for starting the thread wasn't to get anyone to fess up to anything.
I know everyone on this board pays all of their taxes properly and in full just like me.

I was just rooting around for the real reason for the sudden no notice shutdown....

Unless some genius discovered al qaeda was pumping money through epass the only other thing I can think of is that the IRS was pissed that too many dollars were going untaxed.

Mallick would have avoided this if he could because that Epass must a been a humdinger of a cash cow :)
This was coming from an angle he did not anticipate at all otherwise he would a patched the hole fast.


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