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opflix 09-20-2010 07:56 PM

beginning of the end for tubes
 
Bipartisan bill would ramp up anti-piracy enforcement online :thumbsup

mmcfadden 09-20-2010 07:57 PM

one down... two up

Alprazolam 09-20-2010 07:57 PM

yah ok. go jump from a bridge.

Agent 488 09-20-2010 07:59 PM

how does that end tubes?

Litzer 09-20-2010 07:59 PM

I'm legal bish.

opflix 09-20-2010 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17521404)
how does that end tubes?

DMCA doesn't matter... the DOJ can move on a site if there is ANY chance of the site profiting from stolen content. notices and all that bullshit are no longer required. as soon as this shit is passed, its a wrap for all the sharing forums, tubes, etc. :2 cents:

Litzer 09-20-2010 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17521415)
DMCA doesn't matter... the DOJ can move on a site if there is ANY chance of the site profiting from stolen content. notices and all that bullshit are no longer required. as soon as this shit is passed, its a wrap for all the sharing forums, tubes, etc. :2 cents:

Get your content legally?

SallyRand 09-20-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Litzer (Post 17521421)
Get your content legally?

Oh, now you're going to get in a lot of trouble suggesting such a reasonable solution!

Just sayin'.

Sally.

opflix 09-20-2010 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Litzer (Post 17521421)
Get your content legally?

who? me? lol... every butt naked girl on my site was convinced to get butt naked by me so... i'd say yes. excuse me if i misunderstand your question.

FreeHugeMovies 09-20-2010 08:10 PM

It's going to happen eventually, the question is... WHEN?

Tempest 09-20-2010 08:13 PM

That seems to only deal with sites that SELL the music/movies. Guess we'd have to see the real thing to see if it also deals with sites that provide free access to the content.

Litzer 09-20-2010 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17521429)
who? me? lol... every butt naked girl on my site was convinced to get butt naked by me so... i'd say yes. excuse me if i misunderstand your question.

I didn't mean you personally.

Agent 488 09-20-2010 08:16 PM

then tubes will just show content they own. this thread is stupid.

opflix 09-20-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17521448)
then tubes will just show content they own. this thread is stupid.

i do believe the fact that 'illegal' tubes are a primary cause of our industry implosion is an important issue.... perhaps you'd prefer a 'would you hit it?' thread? :321GFY ...correction: beginning of the end for ILLEGAL tubes :error:

d-null 09-20-2010 08:19 PM

if you think tubes can be ended, then it will also end all forums too, or radically change them, because users post photos and text that they do not own the copyright to

you can't end the tubes without ending youtube and all forums too, because when there are user uploads or user interaction with any site, there is a chance that copyrighted material will be uploaded or posted, so there has to be a way to legally deal with that happening, or the whole internet needs to change :2 cents:

Barefootsies 09-20-2010 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17521455)
if you think tubes can be ended, then it will also end all forums too, or radically change them, because users post photos and text that they do not own the copyright to

you can't end the tubes without ending youtube and all forums too, because when there are user uploads or user interaction with any site, there is a chance that copyrighted material will be uploaded or posted, so there has to be a way to legally deal with that happening, or the whole internet needs to change :2 cents:

The voice of reason.
:2 cents:

Agent 488 09-20-2010 08:33 PM

anyone even read it? just gives them more power to seize domains of repeat infringers, like they have been doing already. for tubes and boards that follow dmca business as usual.

NaughtyRob 09-20-2010 08:33 PM

Tubes won't end. If somehow they stop using pirated videos they will buy legal videos but they won't be gone.

opflix 09-20-2010 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 17521473)
Tubes won't end. If somehow they stop using pirated videos they will buy legal videos but they won't be gone.

sorry i left the word 'illegal' out of the topic BUT the point is with new legislation, content producers can get action when their content is stolen and used for profit. i guess this means nothing for people who don't produce content but for those who do? its a step in the right direction :2 cents:

Argos88 09-20-2010 08:49 PM

If Big HOLLYWOOD studios were nto able to do shit about it and many of them WENT BROKEN, then a TEXAS WALKER RANGER won't change this at all...

There is nothign we can do to fight this right now, unless there is some world consense about it...

.

Agent 488 09-20-2010 08:52 PM

so basically they can just seize your domain without being served. yeah, sounds great. can't see that being abused.

BIGTYMER 09-20-2010 08:53 PM

Adapt or Die

CrkMStanz 09-20-2010 09:00 PM

I like it

:thumbsup :thumbsup

Robbie 09-20-2010 09:06 PM

Let them show content they own. That will be just fine by me. Then I'll be able to make sales again on all the programs like naughty america who shoot some of the best porn out there...but it's all over the pirate sites for free.
I'd love to see all the tubes have nothing but bought and paid for old oversaturated content.

We'd all see sales rise back up again.

Robbie 09-20-2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Argos88 (Post 17521507)
There is nothign we can do to fight this right now, unless there is some world consense about it...

.

There doesn't have to be a world concensus if you think about it.
The United States is the biggest consumer of porn. (We're also number one in drugs)

If a site is breaking that law, then they get blocked from U.S. traffic. End of story.

Litzer 09-20-2010 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17521546)
Let them show content they own. That will be just fine by me. Then I'll be able to make sales again on all the programs like naughty america who shoot some of the best porn out there...but it's all over the pirate sites for free.
I'd love to see all the tubes have nothing but bought and paid for old oversaturated content.

We'd all see sales rise back up again.

Exactly. Fuck the pirates.

topsiteking 09-20-2010 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17521510)
so basically they can just seize your domain without being served. yeah, sounds great. can't see that being abused.

Yeah,this sounds great...
:disgust

TheSenator 09-20-2010 09:53 PM

I have legal 3 hour video tube on my Russian site.

cambaby 09-20-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17521510)
so basically they can just seize your domain without being served. yeah, sounds great. can't see that being abused.

good way to eliminate the competition :thumbsup

Odin 09-20-2010 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17521510)
so basically they can just seize your domain without being served. yeah, sounds great. can't see that being abused.

Yep. Next target - legitimate adult websites being targeted for obscenity.

opflix 09-21-2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17521546)
We'd all see sales rise back up again.

this is why this legislation needs to pass and why you should want it to. :2 cents:

pornmasta 09-21-2010 02:44 PM

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closer 09-21-2010 02:46 PM

It always makes me laugh, peeps thinking US law is a worldwide law.

Any site on a ccTLD, hosted and operated outside the US, isn't going to be affected by this in any way :2 cents:

Zyber 09-21-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

The Chamber estimates copyright piracy from movies, music, software and video games costs the U.S. economy $58 billion in total output every year. The Chamber's projected cost of that lost output is more than 370,000 domestic jobs, $16.3 billion in earnings, and $2.6 billion in tax revenue for state, local, and federal governments.
Sounds like a good law..

BittieBucks Eric 09-21-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17521415)
DMCA doesn't matter... the DOJ can move on a site if there is ANY chance of the site profiting from stolen content. notices and all that bullshit are no longer required. as soon as this shit is passed, its a wrap for all the sharing forums, tubes, etc. :2 cents:



Unless it's hosted outside the US....

GatorB 09-21-2010 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by opflix (Post 17521399)

Except that the government doesn't care about porn being pirated. If you think the DOJ is going to waste ONE iota of time or money on shutting down a tube because of piracy you're nuts.

GatorB 09-21-2010 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 17524074)
It always makes me laugh, peeps thinking US law is a worldwide law.

Any site on a ccTLD, hosted and operated outside the US, isn't going to be affected by this in any way :2 cents:

For sites based outside the U.S., Justice would be able to serve an infringement court order on ISPs and ad network providers requiring them to stop doing business with the website, by, among other things, "blocking online access to the rogue site or not processing the website's purchases."

ideaworx 09-21-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Litzer (Post 17521407)
I'm legal bish.

:2 cents:

dirtybaker1331 09-21-2010 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17521546)
Let them show content they own. That will be just fine by me. Then I'll be able to make sales again on all the programs like naughty america who shoot some of the best porn out there...but it's all over the pirate sites for free.
I'd love to see all the tubes have nothing but bought and paid for old oversaturated content.

We'd all see sales rise back up again.

Thanks Robbie, always good to hear our content is appreciated. Hopefully we will see an end to all this illegal tube site BS. It seems like a never-ending battle but action is being taken.

Robbie 09-21-2010 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirtybaker1331 (Post 17524327)
Thanks Robbie, always good to hear our content is appreciated. Hopefully we will see an end to all this illegal tube site BS. It seems like a never-ending battle but action is being taken.

I hope you guys are finally doing something about it.

Right now Naughty America is shooting the best shit out there. But I'm making no sales because your stuff is pirated EVERYWHERE.

I should be making a fortune with N.A. now. I sure used to. And you're 100% better now...

topnotch, standup guy 09-21-2010 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by topsiteking (Post 17521661)
Yeah,this sounds great...
:disgust

It does actually :)

Don't upload any stolen content onto your tube and you've got nothing to worry about.

Capisce?

Caligari 09-21-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 17521455)
if you think tubes can be ended, then it will also end all forums too, or radically change them, because users post photos and text that they do not own the copyright to

you can't end the tubes without ending youtube and all forums too, because when there are user uploads or user interaction with any site, there is a chance that copyrighted material will be uploaded or posted, so there has to be a way to legally deal with that happening, or the whole internet needs to change :2 cents:

Hardly. They will go after sites which are directly PROFITING off the content with no inherent social value attached to the site.
While youtube does have "illegal content" uploaded by users, the vast social service the site provides puts it in a much different light than some twat who is simply uploading illegal videos to make a profit.

Nothing has to change, they know exactly who they are targeting here.

Argos88 09-21-2010 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 17524416)

But I'm making no sales because your stuff is pirated EVERYWHERE.

I said this over and over and over again and I remember you quoting me saying I was wrong...

So, you opened your mind?

.

Tickler 09-21-2010 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caligari (Post 17524533)
While youtube does have "illegal content" uploaded by users, the vast social service the site provides puts it in a much different light than some twat who is simply uploading illegal videos to make a profit.

Except in the suit against youtube documents were "discovered" that show the owners were uploading illegal content.

When they get sued again that new information is going to make it really nasty.

topsiteking 09-21-2010 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tickler (Post 17524799)
Except in the suit against youtube documents were "discovered" that show the owners were uploading illegal content.

When they get sued again that new information is going to make it really nasty.

Yeah,fuck Viacom.:321GFY

Paul Markham 09-22-2010 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 17521448)
then tubes will just show content they own. this thread is stupid.

The Tubes owned by people like Manwin will.

Even if they do pass the laws, Tubes will still take a vast number of surfers who would of bought, 5-6 minute clips will see to that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by closer (Post 17524074)
It always makes me laugh, peeps thinking US law is a worldwide law.

Any site on a ccTLD, hosted and operated outside the US, isn't going to be affected by this in any way :2 cents:

No but they can and should legislate what comes into their country.

V_RocKs 09-22-2010 02:38 AM

Now we all just need to convert our porn sites into nice wholesome porn Jimmy Carters wife would semi-approve of. Get out your Hustler Magazines from the late 70's and do some homework people!


As for Manwin tubes... They would seriously benefit from this because they could then convert to solely their own content and watch their 100% illegal competition get closed. All of that traffic will go somewhere!


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