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xbizdon 09-20-2010 03:47 PM

XBIZ NEWS: After Targeting 635, LFP Plans More Bit Torrent Suits
 
XBIZ NEWS: After Targeting 635, LFP Plans More Bit Torrent Suits

DALLAS ? LFP, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday, has waged the "first of many" copyright infringement lawsuits against bit torrent users who poach content online.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/125412

Alprazolam 09-20-2010 03:48 PM

2010 is the year of the lawsuit.

marketsmart 09-20-2010 03:48 PM

DALLAS — LFP, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday, has waged the "first of many" copyright infringement lawsuits against bit torrent users who poach content online, XBIZ has learned.
"It's about time that LFP and the industry go after those who download our content, otherwise you can watch all of your efforts and your profit wither away," LFP Michael Klein told XBIZ. "There's a need [for litigation], and we can make a few dollars along the way."

Klein said that LFP has been successful in several litigated cases in Europe, but that the latest suit against 635 John Does would be the first bit torrent suit waged in the U.S.

"This is the first suit of many," he said. "And we chose to focus on the particular film because it's a new release, and one that would fall victim to the rampant piracy."

The suit, filed at U.S. District Court in Dallas, focuses on those who allegedly downloaded and distributed “Barely Legal School Girls 6" via torrent sites BTJunkie.org, OSOHunt.com, Torrentz.com, TorrentBit.net, ExtraTorrent.com and EvilTorrent.com.

The 635 Does named in the suit allegedly downloaded and distributed the video during the period Sept. 2-17.

LFP is asking for the court to order the Does' Internet service providers to reveal their identities. The ISPs identified in the suit run the gamut from blue-chip national providers to institutions, including Western New Mexico University and the MidMichigan Medical Center.

The copyright suit seeks damages, as well as attorneys fees. It is being waged by attorney Evan Stone of Denton, Texas.

Alky 09-20-2010 03:54 PM

It'll be interesting to see if some law isn't made regarding suing thousands of people with the intention of just settling.

Someone went after the RIAA, trying to get them for racketeering... I don't think anything ever came of it, but this is sure as hell going to start flooding the hell out of the court systems.

Caligari 09-20-2010 03:59 PM

go get 'em Larry!!!

Jon Oso 09-20-2010 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17520848)
OSOHunt.com,

Not involved. Although I laughed when I saw the name.:1orglaugh

Jdoughs 09-20-2010 04:04 PM

I read that whole article and not once does it say who or what LFP is.

I figured it out but I've been around for 7 years and didn't know, stuff like that should be mentioned. (When you use an acronym, specify it's meaning at least in one part of the story.)

candyflip 09-20-2010 04:21 PM

That should be ISOHunt.com

SteveLightspeed 09-20-2010 04:26 PM

I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet." :winkwink:

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Allison 09-20-2010 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17520933)
I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet." :winkwink:

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Ya I'm curious if this thread will become as heated of a debate as yours did.

Alprazolam 09-20-2010 04:30 PM

where is gideon fuckface?

i wish someone would shove a ear of corn up that fuckers ass.

DWB 09-20-2010 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17520933)
I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet." :winkwink:

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Somewhere out there, a bunch of assholes just puckered as news of this broke.

DWB 09-20-2010 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 17520883)
I read that whole article and not once does it say who or what LFP is.

I figured it out but I've been around for 7 years and didn't know, stuff like that should be mentioned. (When you use an acronym, specify it's meaning at least in one part of the story.)

First thing the story says:

DALLAS ? Larry Flynt Publications, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday...

spanky 09-20-2010 04:50 PM

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...rcement-online

"A bipartisan bill unveiled Monday would make it easier for the Justice Department to shut down websites that traffic pirated music, movies and counterfeit goods."

RycEric 09-20-2010 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 17520918)
That should be ISOHunt.com

Typo on xbiz. :winkwink:

re: Case 3:10-cv-01863-O

"Relevant sites witnessed in this matter include btjunkie.org, isohunt.com, torrentz.com, torrentbit.net, extratorrent.com and eviltorrent.com." I'll also note that these are trackers who notoriously ignore takedown notices or are extremely uncooperative in regards to removal requests.

Jdoughs 09-20-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 17520974)
First thing the story says:

DALLAS ? Larry Flynt Publications, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday...

I read that 3 times and never saw it!

DWB 09-20-2010 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky (Post 17520991)
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...rcement-online

"A bipartisan bill unveiled Monday would make it easier for the Justice Department to shut down websites that traffic pirated music, movies and counterfeit goods."

The walls are starting to slowly close in. :thumbsup

http://www.gunaxin.com/wp-content/up...torANHComp.jpg

tiger 09-20-2010 05:42 PM

There are going to be a lot more of these that's for sure. I'm wondering why you couldn't do the same thing with people downloading videos on a tube site. Would be a good excuse to subpoena the records of the tube site in question as well.

SteveLightspeed 09-20-2010 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alprazolam (Post 17520845)
2010 is the year of the lawsuit.

You haven't seen anything YET. :2 cents:

DWB 09-21-2010 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17521335)
You haven't seen anything YET. :2 cents:

Rock on with your bad self.

MrBottomTooth 09-21-2010 07:38 AM

Just wondering why they wouldn't target users from thepiratebay as well, since it has to be one of the biggest.

sweetcuties 09-21-2010 07:41 AM

Good, glad to see something's gonna be done... tired of seeing my shit ripped :2 cents:

candyflip 09-21-2010 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric (Post 17521032)
Typo on xbiz. :winkwink:

re: Case 3:10-cv-01863-O

"Relevant sites witnessed in this matter include btjunkie.org, isohunt.com, torrentz.com, torrentbit.net, extratorrent.com and eviltorrent.com." I'll also note that these are trackers who notoriously ignore takedown notices or are extremely uncooperative in regards to removal requests.

I would imagine this is because they aren't hosting any of the content. Links to and descriptions of, yes...but not a bit of the actual content.

If they were watching a certain title...what are the ramifications if they are the ones who actually put the file out in the wild to be tracked. Or did they just go searching for a title and nail everyone who downloaded over that period of time?

selena 09-21-2010 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17520933)
I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet." :winkwink:

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed


:1orglaugh

This thread makes me smile. Rock on LFP!

Ravage 09-21-2010 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17521335)
You haven't seen anything YET. :2 cents:

Rock on Steve :thumbsup

Paul Markham 09-21-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky (Post 17520991)
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-va...rcement-online

"A bipartisan bill unveiled Monday would make it easier for the Justice Department to shut down websites that traffic pirated music, movies and counterfeit goods."

It has to come, too many big companies are losing too much money to let it carry on.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger (Post 17521127)
There are going to be a lot more of these that's for sure. I'm wondering why you couldn't do the same thing with people downloading videos on a tube site. Would be a good excuse to subpoena the records of the tube site in question as well.

Don't know about downloading as most just watch. Hitting the uploaders is IMO the key. Once we know who they are we can milk them. The chink in Tubes armor is the part of the DMCA that says they don't monitor or control the content.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17520863)
It'll be interesting to see if some law isn't made regarding suing thousands of people with the intention of just settling.

Someone went after the RIAA, trying to get them for racketeering... I don't think anything ever came of it, but this is sure as hell going to start flooding the hell out of the court systems.

Then companies like Acacia would be well fucked. :1orglaugh

Alky 09-21-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17522868)
Then companies like Acacia would be well fucked. :1orglaugh

Didn't Acacia just sue a few people?

This is more or less carpet bombing everyone and anyone. Steve & his lawyer have already said they are suing thousands of people.

It'll be interesting to see if companies like Comcast and the like will eventually stop complying with subpoenas.... it's costing them money as well to research all of this.

Paul Markham 09-21-2010 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17523216)
Didn't Acacia just sue a few people?

This is more or less carpet bombing everyone and anyone. Steve & his lawyer have already said they are suing thousands of people.

It'll be interesting to see if companies like Comcast and the like will eventually stop complying with subpoenas.... it's costing them money as well to research all of this.

Yes lets see Comcast ignore subpoenas. LOL

Alky 09-21-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17523262)
Yes lets see Comcast ignore subpoenas. LOL

There are quite a few ISPs out there, that are fighting them

SpongeBub 09-21-2010 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17521335)
You haven't seen anything YET. :2 cents:

That's right ... because there won't be anything to see. This will have about as much effect as the RIAA and MPAA suing people did. And we all know how that turned out because I sure cannot d/l any music or movies these days.

The only way that pirating will eventually be stopped is if the ISP's stop it. Until they get their act together and start kicking off the downloaders, it will never stop. But my ISP is constantly trying to sell me faster d/l speeds, so why would they want to kill the golden goose? People won't pay for bandwidth when all they can do is surf the web and read emails.

Paul Markham 09-21-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeBub (Post 17523370)
That's right ... because there won't be anything to see. This will have about as much effect as the RIAA and MPAA suing people did. And we all know how that turned out because I sure cannot d/l any music or movies these days.

The only way that pirating will eventually be stopped is if the ISP's stop it. Until they get their act together and start kicking off the downloaders, it will never stop. But my ISP is constantly trying to sell me faster d/l speeds, so why would they want to kill the golden goose? People won't pay for bandwidth when all they can do is surf the web and read emails.

What the RIAA and MPAA did was very costly and gave them bad publicity. This route is less costly and we don't care about the bad press. We had it before this started. LOL

One person, company or organisation won't be enough to curb the. But and it's a big BUT, if what Steve and others are doing proves to not cost or be profitable expect many others to go the same route.

Then downloaders will be looking over their shoulders. I think it will curb a lot of it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky
There are quite a few ISPs out there, that are fighting them

A subpoena is just a court order to hand over information. These downloaders are law breakers. You seem to want to keep the information secret. Why is that?

AzteK 09-21-2010 02:13 PM

This is just as good as the War On Drugs.

MHK 09-21-2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 17520933)
I'm sure LFP's legal team is just "being stupid" and "doesn't understand the internet." :winkwink:

Go get em Hustler!

Steve Lightspeed

Glad to be joining you Steve in the fight to stop those people stealing our content. :thumbsup

Alky 09-21-2010 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 17523958)
A subpoena is just a court order to hand over information. These downloaders are law breakers. You seem to want to keep the information secret. Why is that?

Where did I say that? All I said is that I think more and more companies will start fighting the subpoenas they are served.

SteveLightspeed 09-21-2010 06:23 PM

The ISPs can (and are) charging a lookup fee, some as much as $120 each. That cost will just be passed on to the lawsuit amount or settlement cost. The ISPs will be happy to hire a bunch of clerks to look up names all day every day.

Alky 09-21-2010 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alky (Post 17524586)
Where did I say that? All I said is that I think more and more companies will start fighting the subpoenas they are served.

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/89330/t...rrent-lawsuit/

LeCoq 09-21-2010 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 17520848)
DALLAS ? LFP, which filed suit against 635 individuals on Friday, has waged the "first of many" copyright infringement lawsuits against bit torrent users who poach content online, XBIZ has learned.

The copyright suit seeks damages, as well as attorneys fees. It is being waged by attorney Evan Stone of Denton, Texas.

Really? Am I the only one who noticed the irony here.:winkwink:


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